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#32
June 9th 04, 12:06 AM
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(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... I'll stick with my "snap judgement", the thing is guilty until proven innocent. w3rv Were you one of the "destroy fractal at any cost" gang? No Brainiac, not at all. In fact Chip shipped me a piece of humor-laced e-mail about a week ago. I've taken umbrage with some of his jottings here and there but I'm not into destructive posts like a certain PUTZ we know does for jollies. Welp, its nice to see that at least somewhere on r.r.a... that people can seperate their disagreements from their hatreds. But several years ago, it really didn't look that way. |
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#33
June 9th 04, 12:18 AM
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(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: It's another "crossed fields antenna" type heap of nonsense which defies both Physics 101 and common sense. Maybe - or maybe not. Fact is that without more info we're not in a position to judge the thing one way or another. Maybe it's a breakthrough, maybe it's one of things that is great in theory but totally impractical, or maybe it's a dud. Without more info, any judgement is just raw speculation. And since a patent application is involved we're not going to see much real data for a while anyway. One point to watch for, though: What matters in practical antennas is the performance of the entire antenna system, not just the antenna itself. For example, a short (in terms of wavelength) whip antenna can be quite efficient - it's the matching network and ground system losses that reduce antenna system efficiency, and bandwidth, to low numbers. Physics is physics is physics and we all know the implications of short antennas *and* we've read the similar hype which surrounded the farcical CFA and EH antennas to name just a couple of this thing's predecessors. I'll stick with my "snap judgement", the thing is guilty until proven innocent. Maybe. Or maybe it's for-real. Without detailed info it's all academic anyway. But I remember a time when it was said that "physics" would not permit microprocessors faster than about 25 MHz. Nor with more than a few thousand transistors. Etc. Had nothing to do with "physics", had to do with musings posted by a few gloms who were clueless about how rapidly developed chip manufacturing technologies could leap past the limits of their own imaginations. Hoof. Mouf. Classic. Holy Cow! PCTA refer to backward thinking people as "gloms." From this point forward, I must refer to PCTA as "CW Gloms." There was also a very learned "professional in radio" who, when informed of the intent of the 1921 ARRL Transatlantic Tests, proclaimed that it was physically impossible for a kilowatt input 200 meter transmitter to be heard at that distance. Waves were just too short, doncha know. Physics wouldn't allow it. This is not 1921. As Len Anderson has pointed out repeatedly. But you didn't need him to point that out. You could see it published on the front page of any daily newspaper. Even the ARRL puts it on the front cover of QST, just prior to launching another edition of memory lane. 83 years later the physics of antennas has been milked to the extent that the probability of anybody inventing an antenna which does not utilize long-applied physics lies somewhere 'way out the asymptote of the curve. Are you sure it's not back at the inflection point? Per previous I'll stick. Ditto my opinion of the CW Gloms (previously known as PCTA). |
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#34
June 9th 04, 12:23 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (the Meaningful Dis-Cusser) writes: (William) wrote in message .com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (William) wrote in message . com... Steve, I didn't see the rant. Please repost it. Perhaps if you didn't have your head so far up Lennie's rectum, you might have had the opporutnity to read it in any one of several HUNDRED anti-Amateur rants he's posted here. Sorry you missed it. (More like IGNORED it.) Steve, K4YZ Sorry, Steve, but my head is not up Len's rectum. Yes, it is. More like your head is up your own rectum. If you should ever pull it out, it will become the "POP" heard round the world! I am sure you wiash this were true. Tsk, tsk, tsk...still making typos when oh, so angry? :-) You have a "wiashing machine" there? A "clothes driaer?" Appliance technology marches on... Lockstep. If you cannot produce the rant, you'll just have to troll elsewhere. Sorry, Brain...No need to waste that much bandwidth with material that Lennie already wasted bandwidth on in the first place. Everyone just loves all this "meaningful discussion" stuff. :-) Is it time for Carl to spank Steve again? Naw! The definition of insanity is to spank an insane guy again and expect different results. Now, try and find something you KNOW something about to talk about, Brain. So far you can discount DXpeditions, reciprocal licensing, MARS, and emergency communications. You've failed miserably in ALL of these subjects. "MARS is amateur radio." Nursie is a veteran of "hostile actions." Nursie shopped at the HRO in Burbank, CA, before they even moved out of their Van Nuys location... Everyone just loves this "meaningful discussion" stuff. :-) Steve is only here for meaningful discourse. |
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#36
June 9th 04, 02:19 AM
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(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... Now show us your logs on working Rob Vincent in RI on one of the URI micro-antennas. Remember...No proof = Doesn't exist. Steve. What a "losser." I'll "crap" my hands when he stops posting. Pity he don't live in "Feenix." He could be a columnist in CQ magazine, telling us all about the strife and times of Hashacodey Scrunchy, a "reel ham." Might not last too long, that job. About as long as the "Purchasing Agent" job did. Moeson wouldn't like to be called "putz" when the great gunnery nurse gets a disagreement going. Gotta love all those "meaningful discussions" in here. :-) LHA / WMD |
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#37
June 9th 04, 02:19 AM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (the Meaningful Dis-Cusser) writes: (William) wrote in message .com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (William) wrote in message . com... Steve, I didn't see the rant. Please repost it. Perhaps if you didn't have your head so far up Lennie's rectum, you might have had the opporutnity to read it in any one of several HUNDRED anti-Amateur rants he's posted here. Sorry you missed it. (More like IGNORED it.) Steve, K4YZ Sorry, Steve, but my head is not up Len's rectum. Yes, it is. More like your head is up your own rectum. If you should ever pull it out, it will become the "POP" heard round the world! I am sure you wiash this were true. Tsk, tsk, tsk...still making typos when oh, so angry? :-) You have a "wiashing machine" there? A "clothes driaer?" Appliance technology marches on... Lockstep. Remember, "real hams" do it with telegraphy. And LOGS. And with AUTHORITY. [tension-hutt, gunnery nurse on da bridge! all rise!] If you cannot produce the rant, you'll just have to troll elsewhere. Sorry, Brain...No need to waste that much bandwidth with material that Lennie already wasted bandwidth on in the first place. Everyone just loves all this "meaningful discussion" stuff. :-) Is it time for Carl to spank Steve again? Naw! Carl be busy with true productive work with the IEEE. Gunnery nurse incapable of anything but trying to suppress those with differing opinions. The definition of insanity is to spank an insane guy again and expect different results. Good point! I need a vacation...but, it's so EASY to reply to the gunnery nurse...why, the posts just seem "to write themselves!" :-) Now, try and find something you KNOW something about to talk about, Brain. So far you can discount DXpeditions, reciprocal licensing, MARS, and emergency communications. You've failed miserably in ALL of these subjects. "MARS is amateur radio." Nursie is a veteran of "hostile actions." Nursie shopped at the HRO in Burbank, CA, before they even moved out of their Van Nuys location... Everyone just loves this "meaningful discussion" stuff. :-) Steve is only here for meaningful discourse. Of course. All us newsgrope readers can SEE that. :-) By the way, that Burbank HRO store is right next to a Radio Shack store. Ain't dat sometin? :-) Betcha da gunnery nurse didn't know that, too busy "shopping with friends" there...like back at a time when that HRO store wasn't there! Amazing. Like Quantum Leap wasn't a TV show, it really existed! :-) |
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#38
June 9th 04, 02:34 AM
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Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William) Date: 6/8/2004 6:06 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Welp, its nice to see that at least somewhere on r.r.a... that people can seperate their disagreements from their hatreds. But several years ago, it really didn't look that way. Now if we could get YOU to seperate your fantasies from what really happened.... Steve, K4YZ |
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#39
June 9th 04, 02:35 AM
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Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William) Date: 6/8/2004 6:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... Now show us your logs on working Rob Vincent in RI on one of the URI micro-antennas. Remember...No proof = Doesn't exist. Steve. What a "losser." I'll "crap" my hands when he stops posting Is that as opposed as to posting your crap with your hands, Brain...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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#40
June 9th 04, 05:36 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: So Much For THAT Rant.... From: (William) Date: 6/8/2004 6:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... Now show us your logs on working Rob Vincent in RI on one of the URI micro-antennas. Remember...No proof = Doesn't exist. Steve. What a "losser." I'll "crap" my hands when he stops posting Is that as opposed as to posting your crap with your hands, Brain...?!?! Tsk, tsk, tsk. Still the angry, snarling Log Inspector not understanding a little humor from the newsgroup of the past? Have you worked Rob Vincent yet on any antenna? Has nursie told the When and Where of all those "hostile actions" along with documented proof for a reference? Was J.Lo any good? What was she wearing at your front door, begging to be pleasured? Did she like the whips and chains you prefer? Did you wow her with your ham radio expertise? [others would call that a "quickie."] How was it on the air for the RRAPnet? The world wants to know... LHA / WMD |
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