"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

it looks like the group is gonna splinter off
into two distinct groups.

Happens all the time. Some "clubs" exist solely to put on Field Day.

So, probably next year you guys can work 2
different Midland County, Michigan stations.

More points for me. That's a good thing.

The "old school" group will do
things their way, and the "new school" group can do things their own way
too.... Almost sounds like a second club overall forming for this county
instead of just the one.

Better than fighting. And often both groups learn something in the
process!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Unfortunately, many times the club sizes drop below "critical mass" and both
end up folding.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

I agree with ya on the liability issue.... There is a clear difference
between gaining access in a true emergency versus gaining access to a
property for an alleged "training exersize." In a real emergency, especially
one involved under that marshall law concept, you could be placed anywhere
the command structure wants you to set up, regardless of property owner's
permission or not.

Yep.

The problem of getting a site varies all over the place. In some areas all you
need do is ask. In others there's all sorts of paperwork. A club with active
ARES folks obvioulsy has an edge over one that doesn't, but even that
connection is no guarantee.

There's also the very real factor of do you go for visibility, convenience or
radio performance in a site? (Rare are the sites that combine all three).

I do have to base the next line or two by stating it to be relating to where
I live locally, but I beleive that logically we as ARES/RACES would most
likely be set up in or at places like county/city owned
properties/buildings, quite possibly hospitals, law enforcement/fire/ems
buildings, the red cross etc. Logic would dictate to me that as a reasonable
guess as to where we personally would most likely set up in a real
emergency. (as one larger group OR as individual smaller stations)

Even then, it's subject to wide variation depending on the nature of the
emergency.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

Unfortunately, many times the club sizes drop below "critical mass" and both
end up folding.

Yes, that does happen.

However, FD can be done at any level, from a one-person show to massive
multi-multi operation with dozens of transmitters on the air and hundreds of
people involved. The appropriately-callsigned N1FD operation is one example of
the latter.

Last year I did a low-intensity solo effort - 1B-1 battery. Still made over
2400 points.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...
"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

it looks like the group is gonna splinter off
into two distinct groups.

Happens all the time. Some "clubs" exist solely to put on Field Day.

So, probably next year you guys can work 2
different Midland County, Michigan stations.

More points for me. That's a good thing.

The "old school" group will do
things their way, and the "new school" group can do things their own way
too.... Almost sounds like a second club overall forming for this county
instead of just the one.

Better than fighting. And often both groups learn something in the
process!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Unfortunately, many times the club sizes drop below "critical mass" and both
end up folding.

Oddly we have the reverse scenario here. Four clubs pool their
resources and put together a single joint FD operation.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

w3rv

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Well, well...Brain manages an idea that doesn't insult anyone and
actually has some merit.

Put THIS day on the calendar!

Snarl, nursie, snarl. Nursie manages to sneer insults at others
with ideas. Good boy. Sic 'em.

He still dunno what IS is, and he still can't spell name right.

Nursie have problem playing well with others. He demand all others
think like him. Not think like nursie? Bad. Do ethnic cleansing,
using scrub brush of nastygrams, mean dissing and cussing.

Probby fell off monkey bar when kid and hit his shoulder. Big not
grow on top an call it head.

Nursie wanna commit all who not think like him. Nursie think
he sane. Probably not. Old fruitcake.

Think he Chairman Mao. Run his tank over people. One day all people
say "Enuf." Not yet day. Other PCTA not yet embarassed enuf by his
antic. Soon.

Not good PR for hum raddio. Nursie not learn what means
phrase "let it be."

He poster boy for sumptin. Hamateur Radio not want him.

Temper fry...

Indeed.

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

Unfortunately, many times the club sizes drop below "critical mass" and
both
end up folding.

Yes, that does happen.

However, FD can be done at any level, from a one-person show to massive
multi-multi operation with dozens of transmitters on the air and hundreds
of
people involved. The appropriately-callsigned N1FD operation is one
example of
the latter.

Last year I did a low-intensity solo effort - 1B-1 battery. Still made
over
2400 points.

73 de Jim, N2EY

That's basically what I was trying to get at. People can do FD on their own
or with a club but it may be better NOT to split off as a separate club. We
have some members who do FD on their own in our club or they belong to more
than one club already and do FD with them. But they do not go form yet
another club.

I think doing different things year to year is good. Our club tried
different antennas this year for example. Next year I and the OM my try
going on our own just for variety simply to see what two people can do.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
m...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
...
[snip]
Unfortunately, many times the club sizes drop below "critical mass" and
both
end up folding.

Oddly we have the reverse scenario here. Four clubs pool their
resources and put together a single joint FD operation.


That's an excellent idea too as learning to coordinate such an effort is
valuable training.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Well, well...Brain manages an idea that doesn't insult anyone and
actually has some merit.

Put THIS day on the calendar!

Snarl, nursie, snarl. Nursie manages to sneer insults at others
with ideas. Good boy. Sic 'em.

He still dunno what IS is, and he still can't spell name right.

A closet DEMOCRAT pretending to be a repub... :-)

Nursie have problem playing well with others. He demand all others
think like him. Not think like nursie? Bad. Do ethnic cleansing,
using scrub brush of nastygrams, mean dissing and cussing.

Probby fell off monkey bar when kid and hit his shoulder. Big not
grow on top an call it head.

Must have been in a kibbutz...where he learned Yiddish swear
words from mittle european immigrant kids. :-)

Nursie wanna commit all who not think like him. Nursie think
he sane. Probably not. Old fruitcake.

Think he Chairman Mao. Run his tank over people. One day all people
say "Enuf." Not yet day. Other PCTA not yet embarassed enuf by his
antic. Soon.

Hmmm...the thoughts of THIS chairman won't fill a book...more like
half a page.

Not good PR for hum raddio. Nursie not learn what means
phrase "let it be."

He poster boy for sumptin. Hamateur Radio not want him.

He want SERVICE belong to. Have uniforms, pretty medals and
insignia, stand in ranks, march to drumbeat. Hup, hup, hup...

Temper fry...

Indeed.

Have a good 4th!

Len

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Well, well...Brain manages an idea that doesn't insult anyone and
actually has some merit.

Put THIS day on the calendar!

Snarl, nursie, snarl. Nursie manages to sneer insults at others
with ideas. Good boy. Sic 'em.

He still dunno what IS is, and he still can't spell name right.

A closet DEMOCRAT pretending to be a repub... :-)

Lotsa Dems aroun dese days. Some ack like Yell Yell Marine.

Nursie have problem playing well with others. He demand all others
think like him. Not think like nursie? Bad. Do ethnic cleansing,
using scrub brush of nastygrams, mean dissing and cussing.

Probby fell off monkey bar when kid and hit his shoulder. Big not
grow on top an call it head.

Must have been in a kibbutz...where he learned Yiddish swear
words from mittle european immigrant kids. :-)

Poor little kid. All them mean peeples swearing at him.

Nursie wanna commit all who not think like him. Nursie think
he sane. Probably not. Old fruitcake.

Think he Chairman Mao. Run his tank over people. One day all people
say "Enuf." Not yet day. Other PCTA not yet embarassed enuf by his
antic. Soon.

Hmmm...the thoughts of THIS chairman won't fill a book...more like
half a page.

Add his photo in that puffy flight suit, put in a fold, and call it a brochure.

Not good PR for hum raddio. Nursie not learn what means
phrase "let it be."

He poster boy for sumptin. Hamateur Radio not want him.

He want SERVICE belong to. Have uniforms, pretty medals and
insignia, stand in ranks, march to drumbeat. Hup, hup, hup...

Salvation Army looking for a few good whatever he is.

Temper fry...

Indeed.

Have a good 4th!

The best!

Subject: Field Day Plans?
From: (William)
Date: 7/3/2004 8:03 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

He still dunno what IS is, and he still can't spell name right.

Probby fell off monkey bar when kid and hit his shoulder. Big not
grow on top an call it head.

Think he Chairman Mao. Run his tank over people. One day all people
say "Enuf." Not yet day. Other PCTA not yet embarassed enuf by his
antic. Soon.

He poster boy for sumptin. Hamateur Radio not want him.

Indeed.

I am sure there wasa a message in here, but it seems the author is having
a relapse to toddler years.

Too bad for him.

Steve, K4YZ