William wrote:

David Heil said that "I just did it" with respect to getting "Extra
right out of the box." But Dave's first license was Novice. Did
David lie?

....or did "William" once again misunderstand. Yes, my first license was
a Novice. My second was a General. My third was an Advanced. My
fourth was an Extra. At no time did I issue any boast about what I
would set out to achieve. Len hasn't obtained any amateur radio license
despite his silly statement. My guess is that he never will.

Dave K8MN