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From: "Dee Flint" on Sat,Apr 30 2005 4:13 pm
"K=D8=88B" wrote in message ink.net... "K4YZ" wrote There is a very painful and delicate balance between the lattitude permitted by what we call "free speech" and where your "right" to be abusive in public stops. "As it is an ancient truth that freedom cannot be legislated into existence, so it is no less obvious that freedom cannot be censored into existence." -- Dwight David Eisenhower (1890-1969), 34th US President "Our liberty depends on the freedom of speech and that cannot be limited without being lost." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), 3rd US President The only valid limitation of free speech under our Constitution is your individual right not to listen. ZBM2, de Hans, K0HB In a practical sense there are de facto limits. One is perfectly free to commit slander and libel. No, dear, "one is NOT perfectly free" in ANY practical sense. By your logic, one is "perfectly free" to commit murder or grand theft, etc. You confuse "perfectly free" with BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. It's not illegal and one cannot go to jail for it. Slander (spoken) and libel (written) are NOT felonies. Hello? There are TWO kinds of courts in our land and under our (presumably you are a citizen of the USA) laws: Criminal and Civil. [ask Phil Kane if you want to make an issue of that...] Yet people CAN be held finanicially liable for the effects of their slander, etc. It's a LOT stickier than that, Dee. FAILURE to carry out a Civil COURT judgement order CAN result in both fines and imprisonment. The "financial" difference between Criminal and Civil courts is that the State bears the legal costs of Criminal prosecution...in Civil courts both sides have to pay for legal representation (dependent on the final decision of the court). That's just basic civics information from public school. I'm surprised you've forgotten that, being a "parent" and all to the "children" in here... This liability for the effects of one's "free speech" are a limit even though it is not censorship. Tsk. There's where you can't differentiate the Control Freaks from the Free-speechers. The Control Freaks will spend inordinate amounts of time in Harrassment, Intimidation, Heckling, and Insulting certain groups... all in an attempt to Assert Their Turf and try to force all into "thinking" as they do (i.e., be of the same opinions...or else). You can see them IN HERE. :-) In Germany they once had "Krystalnacht." In here all the glass-jawed Control Freaks bust their own chops in spending all that "free time" on gratuitous insulting, heckling, and general harrassement of certain others. Their broken glass "tinkles" all over each subject. "Free speech?" Only by a technical definition. Try to get with the program, Dee. [message received and disposed of] |
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