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From: on Jun 29, 4:30 pm
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and he'd make a wad. Poor unc...must have listened to his nephew too much. :-) Tsk, I was ON HF 52 years ago and was still ON HF a year ago without ever having to know/test for morse code. Legal. Just not in the MF-HF amateur bands, not even on CB. :-) "Not in the HF-MF amateur bands" is MOST of the HF-MF spectrum. Tsk. All you morseodists think that morsemanship is a "love-hate" condition? Like black versus white? If one doesn't DO it, one "hates it?" Not so. You morseodists ought to listen to yourselves sometime. You prattle on and on and on and on and on about the glory and majesty of morsemanship and how it is the epitome of all amateur skills and "all should know this basic thing" as if it were true. AS IF. Ain't true, senior. Just rationalizing bull**** or some vestige of brainwashing soap scum left on your collective psyches by older olde-fahrts who probably got their "ham" licenses back when "ham" was a not-nice word from the radio pros. Tsk, tsk. Would you say that tired old cliche' about "learning morse will show your dedication and committment to the amateur community?" I hope not, because that is a tired old cowpatty phrase left over from before WW2. Who is this "amateur community" that hams "must" show something to? A bunch of self-glorified, self-promoted raddio kopps? What's their mailing address? Is it someplace in Newington? Now, if morsemanship were SO good in radio, I would have expected at least one OTHER radio service to retain it as their prime communications mode. NONE did. How about that? If morsemanship were SO good for radio, I'd have expected to see hundreds of thousands of hobbyists flocking to code classes and beeping up a storm. Maybe picketing someplace in favor of morse? Hasn't been so. Without Test Element 1 for the below-30-MHz privilege license...and perhaps some olde-fahrts from long-ago military radio...there hasn't been any groundswell of Getting Morsemanship. How about that? So, because all you PCTA extras try to make out like radio experts BECAUSE of passing a 20 WPM test, you are wanting Love and Affection and Respect for being sooooo mighty? Tsk. You are looking for "love" in all the wrong places. Poor babies, unloved and you think all who don't love morsemanship is "hate?" You guys are as whacked out as the Tennessee Talibanian. Remember, "Morse code gets through when everything else will." - Burke |
Learn the code-get the license-forget cw and lobby to ditch the damn
ancient waste of time... Join NCI No-Code International. Write your congressman and complain public funds are supporting only a handful of code using radio hobbyists! Complain, complain, complain... John wrote in message oups.com... Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and he'd make a wad. - Mike KB3EIA - w3rv |
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"KØHB" wrote in message link.net... "Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse code Hater", but humor me. I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 Gee.....now I know what MY problem is.....I heard of ham radio. Found out the requirements to get a license. Studied and passed the requirements. Thanks for the insight Hans. Dan/W4NTI |
"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... wrote I don't believe one bit of it. Gospel truth! Learned Morse off the old 6V farm radio (a "cathedral" style Zenith with 5 or 6 bands --- we didn't get REA until I was in high school) at about age 8 or 9. Wanted to know what all those beeps and boops were about on what turned out to be the 8 and 12 MC marine bands. Fascinating stuff for a kid thousands of miles from any ocean. Ham radio interest came much later, introduced by my roomate as a college freshman. 73, de Hans, K0HB OH OH.......I did the same thing. But with my uncles Zenith when we went to his house for Italian chow. Dan/W4NTI |
From: on Jun 29, 6:02 pm
K=D8=88B wrote: "Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a bett= er thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse c= ode Hater", but humor me. I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming = an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone t= o the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. Knock it off Chief ya bloddy TROLL, I don't believe one bit of it. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 w3rv Knock it off yourself, PA Tuff Guy. As to "TROLL," the Coslonaut started this thread with the emotional loading of either Love or Hate attached to morsemanship. That's an "ignition troll" designed to inflame a polarized subject. As to "believe-ability" Kellie, MANY of your tales of the souse pacific in here leave a great deal of DOUBT as to their veracity. Oh, and watch your comportment in here. Telling someone to "knock it off" is the same as telling them to "shut up." Jimmie Noserve no like that and will mount the pulpit and go into another Sermon on the Antenna Mount against all who tell others to "shut up." "Morse code gets through when everything else will." - B. Burke |
Bill Sohl wrote:
Mike, First let me state again for the record, the issue for myself and for No Code (test) International is morse code TEST opposition...not any "hatrid" of hams learning and using morse. With that clarification, my answer to your question is... IMHO, if anyone wants HF access, they should learn morse now to get their General rather than wait for any FCC changes. Okay Bill, that is an answer that makes good sense to me. - Mike KB3EIA - |
KØHB wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse code Hater", but humor me. It's okay - All are welcome here.... I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 Interesting, Hans! Thanks for the honest response. You would have taken up another hobby then, I suppose. - Mike KB3EIA - |
an_old_friend wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn Was there a specific problem? I had a lot of trouble with Tinnitus, and getting hung up on one letter, and letting the rest of the message go by ("flying behind the plane") - Mike KB3EIA - |
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