Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.


2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and
he'd make a wad.


- Mike KB3EIA -

w3rv

From: on Jun 29, 4:30 pm

Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.

2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and
he'd make a wad.

Poor unc...must have listened to his nephew too much. :-)

Tsk, I was ON HF 52 years ago and was still ON HF a year ago
without ever having to know/test for morse code. Legal.
Just not in the MF-HF amateur bands, not even on CB. :-)

"Not in the HF-MF amateur bands" is MOST of the HF-MF spectrum.

Tsk. All you morseodists think that morsemanship is a "love-hate"
condition? Like black versus white? If one doesn't DO it, one
"hates it?" Not so.

You morseodists ought to listen to yourselves sometime. You
prattle on and on and on and on and on about the glory and
majesty of morsemanship and how it is the epitome of all amateur
skills and "all should know this basic thing" as if it were true.
AS IF.

Ain't true, senior. Just rationalizing bull**** or some vestige
of brainwashing soap scum left on your collective psyches by
older olde-fahrts who probably got their "ham" licenses back
when "ham" was a not-nice word from the radio pros. Tsk, tsk.

Would you say that tired old cliche' about "learning morse will
show your dedication and committment to the amateur community?"
I hope not, because that is a tired old cowpatty phrase left
over from before WW2. Who is this "amateur community" that hams
"must" show something to? A bunch of self-glorified, self-promoted
raddio kopps? What's their mailing address? Is it someplace in
Newington?

Now, if morsemanship were SO good in radio, I would have expected
at least one OTHER radio service to retain it as their prime
communications mode. NONE did. How about that?

If morsemanship were SO good for radio, I'd have expected to see
hundreds of thousands of hobbyists flocking to code classes and
beeping up a storm. Maybe picketing someplace in favor of morse?
Hasn't been so. Without Test Element 1 for the below-30-MHz
privilege license...and perhaps some olde-fahrts from long-ago
military radio...there hasn't been any groundswell of Getting
Morsemanship. How about that?

So, because all you PCTA extras try to make out like radio experts
BECAUSE of passing a 20 WPM test, you are wanting Love and Affection
and Respect for being sooooo mighty? Tsk. You are looking for
"love"
in all the wrong places. Poor babies, unloved and you think all who
don't love morsemanship is "hate?" You guys are as whacked out as
the Tennessee Talibanian.

Remember, "Morse code gets through when everything else will." -
Burke

Translation of Lennies latest rant;

I really wanted a ham ticket. But I wasn't coordinated enough to walk and
chew gum at the same time. That's why I was talking on HF without a "ham"
license.

I dispatched taxi cabs on the old HF links used before FM was discovered.
Had to do something to supplement my meager Army pay you know.

My inability to walk and chew caused me to be unable to learn Morse Code.
So I hate anyone that could/can.

Please feel sorry for me.

Lennie the LOSER


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From: on Jun 29, 4:30 pm

Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.

2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and
he'd make a wad.

Poor unc...must have listened to his nephew too much. :-)

Tsk, I was ON HF 52 years ago and was still ON HF a year ago
without ever having to know/test for morse code. Legal.
Just not in the MF-HF amateur bands, not even on CB. :-)

"Not in the HF-MF amateur bands" is MOST of the HF-MF spectrum.

Tsk. All you morseodists think that morsemanship is a "love-hate"
condition? Like black versus white? If one doesn't DO it, one
"hates it?" Not so.

You morseodists ought to listen to yourselves sometime. You
prattle on and on and on and on and on about the glory and
majesty of morsemanship and how it is the epitome of all amateur
skills and "all should know this basic thing" as if it were true.
AS IF.

Ain't true, senior. Just rationalizing bull**** or some vestige
of brainwashing soap scum left on your collective psyches by
older olde-fahrts who probably got their "ham" licenses back
when "ham" was a not-nice word from the radio pros. Tsk, tsk.

Would you say that tired old cliche' about "learning morse will
show your dedication and committment to the amateur community?"
I hope not, because that is a tired old cowpatty phrase left
over from before WW2. Who is this "amateur community" that hams
"must" show something to? A bunch of self-glorified, self-promoted
raddio kopps? What's their mailing address? Is it someplace in
Newington?

Now, if morsemanship were SO good in radio, I would have expected
at least one OTHER radio service to retain it as their prime
communications mode. NONE did. How about that?

If morsemanship were SO good for radio, I'd have expected to see
hundreds of thousands of hobbyists flocking to code classes and
beeping up a storm. Maybe picketing someplace in favor of morse?
Hasn't been so. Without Test Element 1 for the below-30-MHz
privilege license...and perhaps some olde-fahrts from long-ago
military radio...there hasn't been any groundswell of Getting
Morsemanship. How about that?

So, because all you PCTA extras try to make out like radio experts
BECAUSE of passing a 20 WPM test, you are wanting Love and Affection
and Respect for being sooooo mighty? Tsk. You are looking for
"love"
in all the wrong places. Poor babies, unloved and you think all who
don't love morsemanship is "hate?" You guys are as whacked out as
the Tennessee Talibanian.

Remember, "Morse code gets through when everything else will." -
Burke

On 6/29/05 3:30 PM, in article
, "
wrote:


Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.


2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and
he'd make a wad.


- Mike KB3EIA -

w3rv



Oh come on people. 5 WPM is just not that hard to do. To keep on waiting
for it to go away and let this keep you from getting into the HF end of the
ham bands is just kind of silly IMO. Life is full of little inconveniences
and you should not let that get in the way of a something that you would
have a good time doing. Little kids can pick this up in a few months if
they want to.

Some of the most fun I have had on the ham bands has been using CW, and I am
not that good at it and I came to it kicking and screaming. It just took a
month or so of a little work.

OK, I will get of the soap box.



ME

KB0DER

Learn the code-get the license-forget cw and lobby to ditch the damn
ancient waste of time...

Join NCI No-Code International.
Write your congressman and complain public funds are supporting only a
handful of code using radio hobbyists!

Complain, complain, complain...

John

wrote in message
oups.com...

Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.


2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a
better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds
me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and
he'd make a wad.


- Mike KB3EIA -

w3rv

This dolt is not only anti cw, but he is anti Amateur Radio. Why does this
NOT surprise me?

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Learn the code-get the license-forget cw and lobby to ditch the damn
ancient waste of time...

Join NCI No-Code International.
Write your congressman and complain public funds are supporting only a
handful of code using radio hobbyists!

Complain, complain, complain...

John

wrote in message
oups.com...

Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.


2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and
he'd make a wad.


- Mike KB3EIA -

w3rv

Dan:

Actually, this "Dolt" is just tired of the standard ancient amateur
with his outdated equip taking up bandspace and passing gas...

We need new blood just to bring back some excitement and some future
progress to the amateur hobby... and we need to get rid of those who
oppose and stand in the way of progress... yesterday would not be too
soon for these changes...

John

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
link.net...
This dolt is not only anti cw, but he is anti Amateur Radio. Why
does this NOT surprise me?

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Learn the code-get the license-forget cw and lobby to ditch the
damn ancient waste of time...

Join NCI No-Code International.
Write your congressman and complain public funds are supporting
only a handful of code using radio hobbyists!

Complain, complain, complain...

John

wrote in message
oups.com...

Michael Coslo wrote:
What is more important:

1. Having a license that allows HF access.


2. Not having to learn Morse code.

IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a
better
thing than learning it to get the priveliges?

Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds
me
of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years
ago
was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up
and
he'd make a wad.


- Mike KB3EIA -

w3rv

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
This dolt is not only anti cw, but he is anti Amateur Radio.

Bingo!

- Mike KB3EIA -