"K4YZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, well, well....................

After I posted my comments and recovered from laughing at Lennie's
predictably pessimistic and mistruthful diatribe, I started to look
over some of the other comments.

Then I decided to just cut to the chase and search by names for
the rest of you.

Other than myself and Lennie, I only found ONE other semi-regular
of this group had cared enough to comment: WA2ISE.

Missing? K0HB, W5TIT, N8UZE, W5DXP, K2UNK, N2EY, AA2QA, K3LT,
W3RV, KB9RQZ, N0IMD, WK3C, W1RFI, N3KIP, KC2HMZ, K8MN.

Soooooooooooo......

Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

On another note, I notice both Maia and West haven't said a word
either...guess they figure they'll sell books one way or the other...

73

Steve, K4YZ



Hello, Steve

At age 58 and having lost my job in early 2004 (have had a couple of
contract jobs), I've been *very* busy. To the point of not being nearly as
involved as I should be with a number of Yahoo groups, some of which I
moderate.

I am not really concerned about Morse code; only the arrival of folks that
simply want to scream the loudest (with a big splatterbox). Others are
trainable.

I've gotten to the point around here that if someone parks near my house
with one of those ghetto-blasters running in their car or van, I open my
windows and turn the entertainment system on pretty hard (6 Bose speakers
and several hundred watts). Last time, the idiot turned of the car stereo
and I had four pictures to pick up off the floor after shaking the whole
house.

So, if I can manage to find a decent, permanent job, my next move will be to
get a decent HF rig and make sure the thing is set to cw regardless of the
frequency (60 meters excepted LOL).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

an_old_friend wrote:
my coment will be sent when I have them polished enough of course

To the FCC the little details are important, Indeed my coments will
likey be typed by one of the pool of typists I use professionaly

I think little details like spelling and grammar and important to a
number of us here in r.r.a.p. Why not have the pool of typists polish
the stuff you intend to post here?

Dave K8MN

K4YZ wrote:
Well, well, well....................

After I posted my comments and recovered from laughing at Lennie's
predictably pessimistic and mistruthful diatribe, I started to look
over some of the other comments.

Then I decided to just cut to the chase and search by names for
the rest of you.

Other than myself and Lennie, I only found ONE other semi-regular
of this group had cared enough to comment: WA2ISE.

Missing? K0HB, W5TIT, N8UZE, W5DXP, K2UNK, N2EY, AA2QA, K3LT,
W3RV, KB9RQZ, N0IMD, WK3C, W1RFI, N3KIP, KC2HMZ, K8MN.

Soooooooooooo......

I'm sooooooooooooo suprised that you bothered. A uniform is not
required for comment.

Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

Ask after the closing date.

On another note, I notice both Maia and West haven't said a word
either...guess they figure they'll sell books one way or the other...

What did the ARRL ay? Will they sell books anyway?

73

Steve, K4YZ

72.125, bb

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Well, well, well....................
After I posted my comments and recovered from laughing at
Other than myself and Lennie, I only found ONE other semi-
regular
of this group had cared enough to comment: WA2ISE.

Missing? K0HB, W5TIT, N8UZE, W5DXP, K2UNK, N2EY, AA2QA,
K3LT,
W3RV, KB9RQZ, N0IMD, WK3C, W1RFI, N3KIP, KC2HMZ, K8MN.


Steve,

W5DXP, K3LT, WK3C, and W1RFI haven't posted to rrap in a long time.

Cecil decided to focus on antennas soon after the 2000 restructuring.
He said in here that 5 wpm was the right level,
he resigned his NCI membership and went on to other things.

Larry's work and other interests caused him to spend his time
differently.

Carl has shown up once or twice but his main focuses have been
his job, house, anti-BPL and NCI duties. Heck, he was so busy it
took him a year to get his Extra and vanity call.

Ed has been focused on fighting BPL. He's also an ARRL staffer, so he
may prefer not to even give the appearance of a conflict.

Smart boy.

Soooooooooooo......

Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

It's only been a few days. There are weeks to go yet.

K4YZ demands immediate replies!!!

Look at the responses - most of them are "Brief Comments", meaning a
short yea or nay. Many are embarrassing in their
poor spelling, grammar, capitalization and punctuation. Better
to spend some time proofreading and polishing.

Making fun of the dyslexic?

There's also the perception some have that the whole thing may be a
done deal already.

It was a done deal in the 70's. The gov't just works vewwy, vewwy
swoly.

Suppose the majority of commenters want code testing to stay,

Huh??? Where did you get that hair-brained idea? Who redefined
"majority???"

either as
it is now or maybe just for Extra.

Or maybe just for wishful thinking...

Will that make any difference at all
to what FCC does? Back in 1999, a member of NCI read and tallied up the
comments and found that the *majority*
wanted either two or three code test speeds. Yet FCC went to 5 wpm
only.

Hi!!!

Now you think the FCC will reverse itself after releasing this NPRM?

Hi, hi, hi!!!

On another note, I notice both Maia and West haven't said a
word
either...guess they figure they'll sell books one way or the
other...

Almost everything NCVEC wanted in their second petition was denied.

Ditto N2EY requests...

73 de Jim, N2EY

313

btw, you missed the biggest hoot in Len's comments - the part where he
says he offers an "objective" view...AS IF!

Looks objective to me. No toob equipment.

Dave:

Yeah, I am always so hung up on spelling and grammer I can't focus unless
it is perfect... there are both meds and psyche help for it, I hope those
who can't cope with this severe disability on their own avail themselves
of what is available...

John

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:04:08 +0000, Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:
my coment will be sent when I have them polished enough of course

To the FCC the little details are important, Indeed my coments will
likey be typed by one of the pool of typists I use professionaly

I think little details like spelling and grammar and important to a
number of us here in r.r.a.p. Why not have the pool of typists polish
the stuff you intend to post here?

Dave K8MN

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Well, well, well....................
After I posted my comments and recovered from laughing at
Other than myself and Lennie, I only found ONE other semi-
regular
of this group had cared enough to comment: WA2ISE.

Missing? K0HB, W5TIT, N8UZE, W5DXP, K2UNK, N2EY, AA2QA,
K3LT,
W3RV, KB9RQZ, N0IMD, WK3C, W1RFI, N3KIP, KC2HMZ, K8MN.


Steve,

W5DXP, K3LT, WK3C, and W1RFI haven't posted to rrap in a long time.

I know.

Does that mean they no longer take a proactive role in Amateur
Radio policy issues?

Cecil decided to focus on antennas soon after the 2000 restructuring.
He said in here that 5 wpm was the right level,
he resigned his NCI membership and went on to other things.

Larry's work and other interests caused him to spend his time
differently.

Carl has shown up once or twice but his main focuses have been
his job, house, anti-BPL and NCI duties. Heck, he was so busy it
took him a year to get his Extra and vanity call.

Ed has been focused on fighting BPL. He's also an ARRL staffer, so he
may prefer not to even give the appearance of a conflict.

All fine gentlemen and pursuits.

Soooooooooooo......

Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

It's only been a few days. There are weeks to go yet.

Look at the responses - most of them are "Brief Comments", meaning a
short yea or nay. Many are embarrassing in their
poor spelling, grammar, capitalization and punctuation. Better
to spend some time proofreading and polishing.

There's also the perception some have that the whole thing may be a
done deal already.

Suppose the majority of commenters want code testing to stay, either as
it is now or maybe just for Extra. Will that make any difference at all
to what FCC does? Back in 1999, a member of NCI read and tallied up the
comments and found that the *majority*
wanted either two or three code test speeds. Yet FCC went to 5 wpm
only.

On another note, I notice both Maia and West haven't said a
word
either...guess they figure they'll sell books one way or the
other...

Almost everything NCVEC wanted in their second petition was denied.

But Gordo and The Fred will still sell books.

73 de Jim, N2EY

313

btw, you missed the biggest hoot in Len's comments - the part where he
says he offers an "objective" view...AS IF!

Like I said...too bad there's noit a penalty for perjury in those
comments...Page 1 would have got him in HAC right off the bat.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Now Steve libels Len... Who's next???

b.b.:

Isn't it like, "Why bother?"

Either the USA at least joins NCI belatedly, or else displays a psychotic
need to fight progress... this has to be a given... religious zealots can
never see the insanity in themselves, just others...

John

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:12:22 -0700, b.b. wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
Well, well, well....................

After I posted my comments and recovered from laughing at Lennie's
predictably pessimistic and mistruthful diatribe, I started to look
over some of the other comments.

Then I decided to just cut to the chase and search by names for
the rest of you.

Other than myself and Lennie, I only found ONE other semi-regular
of this group had cared enough to comment: WA2ISE.

Missing? K0HB, W5TIT, N8UZE, W5DXP, K2UNK, N2EY, AA2QA, K3LT,
W3RV, KB9RQZ, N0IMD, WK3C, W1RFI, N3KIP, KC2HMZ, K8MN.

Soooooooooooo......

I'm sooooooooooooo suprised that you bothered. A uniform is not
required for comment.

Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

Ask after the closing date.

On another note, I notice both Maia and West haven't said a word
either...guess they figure they'll sell books one way or the other...

What did the ARRL ay? Will they sell books anyway?

73

Steve, K4YZ

72.125, bb

K4YZ wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

I figured that I would reserve my comments for a place that had a
better chance of having an effect on the decision. That would be in
rrap! ;^)

I gave up on RRAP being any usable place for ANY kind of debate

No kidding? You're the #1 problem.

Kim wrote:
"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
k.net...

"K4YZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, well, well....................

After I posted my comments and recovered from laughing at Lennie's
predictably pessimistic and mistruthful diatribe, I started to look
over some of the other comments.

Then I decided to just cut to the chase and search by names for
the rest of you.

Other than myself and Lennie, I only found ONE other semi-regular
of this group had cared enough to comment: WA2ISE.

Missing? K0HB, W5TIT, N8UZE, W5DXP, K2UNK, N2EY, AA2QA, K3LT,
W3RV, KB9RQZ, N0IMD, WK3C, W1RFI, N3KIP, KC2HMZ, K8MN.

Soooooooooooo......

We do have 60 days from when the NPRM is printed in the Federal
Register to comment.

Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

On another note, I notice both Maia and West haven't said a word
either...guess they figure they'll sell books one way or the other...

You'll probably only see Fred's comments via the NCVEC comment
when that gets agreed to within the NCVEC groups.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



Well, Bill. I am not sure that a kind of public indictment of people who've
not chosen to submit comments to something is all that democratic ( :o);
but...

I am, admittedly, a ham who is not all that active. I also *used* to be
more affected emotionally by issues of CW and ham traditions than I am now.
Maybe chalk that up to having spouted off to people like Larry, etc., for
long enough that I've lost sail...LOL I have opinions on the service, the
hobby, etc. But, I choose not to try to "affect" ham radio by way of my
comments to NPRMs (that is, unless there was some kind of something that
truly affected me emotionally) in things that I am OK with going either way
and this one, I am. I think it's probably something along the lines of
consensus. I may have an opinion of my own, but I am willing to step aside
and yield to the prevailing group.

Kim W5TIT

Kim, don't yield to these sandbaggers. Post your comments to the FCC.
bb

Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
my coment will be sent when I have them polished enough of course

To the FCC the little details are important, Indeed my coments will
likey be typed by one of the pool of typists I use professionaly

I think little details like spelling and grammar and important to a
number of us here in r.r.a.p. Why not have the pool of typists polish
the stuff you intend to post here?

you want to pay the bill? you are being mighty generous with my money
there Dave

and the typists do only part of the work of course


and when you going to use em yourself "..spelling and grammar and
important.."


Dave K8MN