From: Frank Gilliland on Mon 14 Nov 2005 02:39

On 1 Nov 2005 22:53:47 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in
Frankie of Silliland, RRAP's Newest Source Of Comic Relief wrote:
On 1 Nov 2005 16:18:14 wrote in
Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 31 Oct 2005 06:18:22 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in

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PLEASE CITE just ONE Marine Corps order (from 1986 through 1992)
that allegedly "proves" I was unable/unauthorized to work part time as
an EMT...JUST ONE.

Nice try, Dud, but it won't work. I have no doubt that you -were-
allowed to work as an EMT simply because you were a reservist. It
would be a different story if you were on active duty at the time.

Frank, we readers have NOT seen anything at all to prove Dudly
was active-duty OR in the reserves at any time!

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Then once again you've allowed us a moment to break into laughter
at your ignorance and arrogance~!

Prove me wrong, Dudly.

He can't, Frank. After 7 years in here and NO evidence of anything
of that "18 year career" there's no point in asking for anything
NOW. :-(


Name them yourself...I don't have back copies of Leatherneck
anymore...However anyone who cares to do some research will see you for
what you are....

YOU referenced the source so it's YOUR obligation to validate YOUR
claim.... oh, that's right, you didn't understand the meaning of an
'obligation'. Well, now you do so you don't have an excuse. Name one
of those Marines that was written up in Leatherneck for being an EMT
while in active duty. Just one.

Dudly isn't able to do that. He has NO proof.

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That's what you've implied...

Have you ever tried to read anything without attaching it to your own
distorted imagination? Try it sometime -- it will help to eliminate
your moral confusion.

He is unable to deviate from his massive, long-running snow job
even long after the snow was melted by others.


You've suggested that in 18 years
(actually 14 at the time I obtained my initial EMT certification) that
I SHOULDN'T have had any time or opportunity to be an EMT, and that in
doing so, somehow "proved" that I was never on Active Duty...As if 140
hours of night classes over a four month period kept me from my offical
duties..

Don't try to be clever, Dud -- in your desperation to defend your fake
service record you forgot about the other 3 years and 8 months..... or
was it 5 years and 8 months..... gee, Dud, make up your mind: were you
an EMT on active duty for four or six years?

Must be the "new math" that was taught in school. :-)


You even explained why you used it:

"If having great respect for an organization (the United States Coast
Guard, in this case) that goes so far out of it's way on a daily basis
to save human lives makes me a "paramilitary wannabe", guilty as
charged."

And when taken in context with the preceding post it also makes you a
praise-seeking hero wannabe.

So...I make some positive inferences to the Coast Guard, and
that's "wrong"...

In your case, it's as wrong as John Wayne Gacy showing an interest in
dressing up like a clown.

Careful, he might start singing "Send In The Clowns." :-)


Yet we have you bragging about allegedly being in Beirut

Allegedly? No, I posted the proof, Dud. You should try it sometime.

Most of us readers might like to see some REAL proof from
Dudly. Anything is an infinity more than the ZERO he has
presented.


Did I miss some law that says once someone uses a latin word in
THEIR motto, no one else can use it...?!?!

Did I say it was illegal?

You obviously have a problem with it...

You obviously have an obsession with it.

Nah. Dudly is still dancing around his faux pas. Would a real,
live MARINE use a Coast Guard motto in a sign-off? Wouldn't be
true to the Corps, would it?


I'm not the one with two court martials over his head, Frankie.

I'm not the one who lies about his military "career", Dud.

True enough! However, since Dudly has NEVER posted any reference
proof to his active-duty or reserve career, we have to wonder if
Dudly REALLY served in ANY military branch.


I've proven you to be a liar.

If there's one thing that's lacking in public schools these days it's
the failure to teach critical thinking skills.

Nah. Dud is just trying to turn things around with his very old
trick of personal insulting in order to win message points.

What more could I ask for...?!?!

A better education.

I would suggest a VERY long time in mental health counseling.
He needs it.


You will never understand the difference, Dud: I'm not holding you to
-my- standard -- I'm holding you to a -higher- standard, just as you
would expect. Despite this, you waste your time in the newsgroups
throwing around school-yard banter, covering your lies with more lies,
and disgracing honorable institutions by leeching their honor and
integrity to feed your personal pride and delusions of heroism. Even
when I'm not here you pray to me because you don't have the discipline
(let alone the common sense) to avoid arguing with someone whom -you-
describe as "silly". The fact is that you -can't- set a standard that
is higher than mine, a ****bird PFC. Add to that the fact that your
tactics are lame and impotent, your 'facts' are generally wrong, and
you tuck tail and run from every challenge to the legitimacy of your
claims about your military "career", and anyone can see that -your-
standards are well below mine, let alone the standards required of a
Marine Gunny.

Nope, you were never active duty. You're a Major Dud.

Frank, my take is that Dudly was NEVER in the USMC. It
sounds like he READ about it a lot, wanted to be in,
could not get in, then flipped out. He went nuts,
unable to reconcile his desires with reality.


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I degrade only your service as a reservist, Dud. I do it because of
the way -you- feel about -yourself-. You hate yourself for what you
think are your failings; for being a reservist that never saw action
and got drummed out of the Corps on a medical discharge. And because
you hate yourself so much, it's easy to push your buttons.

As for me, the only buttons you can push are your fraudulent claims
about being retired, your "seven hostile actions", and serving your
time on active duty -- fabrications which, ironically, are the product
of your self-hatred. It's no suprise that I have become your primary
adversary. But you don't even see that you are really arguing with
yourself, not with me.

Sometimes I think that you actually -want- me to post undeniable proof
of your bogus service claims so you can quit living the lie. I will in
due time, but not before I get my kicks by letting you suffer the
torment of being stuck in your own web of lies.

Frank, that is consistent with Dudly's actions in here for
so long. He has this mania about UNIFORMS, about RANK,
wanting to be an officer, a tuff guy hero type. He is
terribly frustrated with the reality of his life and NEEDS
the fantasy that he is all those things.


At every suggestion that I may have "only" been a reservist and at
the point wherein you made inferences that duty as a Reservist was
somehow less-than-adequate.

No, Dudly. I have clearly stated several times that I think there is
nothing at all wrong with being a reservist. It may be different than
active duty, but is no less worthy of pride and honor. The problem is
that -you- don't feel that way. It is -you- that feels a reservist is
"less-than-adequate" and not worthy of the same respect as a Marine
who served on active duty. I just push that button and, as expected,
you thrash around in a defensive fit of grade-school name calling and
emotionally charged avoidance tactics. You really need to learn some
discipline, Dud.

Not to mention consistency in his lies and exaggerations. :-)


True or not, the fact remains that I earned an honorable discharge and
you got kicked out on a medical. The fact remains that I saw action
(and wish I hadn't) and you didn't (and wish you did). The fact
remains that I served my time on active duty while you were a
reservist. Hmmmm...... you claim that your 6 years of EMT work was
part-time, and a reservist is really a part-time job too......

Dud hasn't got his ducks in a row...he needs that consistency
to be believable. He ain't got it.

Let's see now..... one weekend a month, that's 48 x 12 = 576 hours/yr.
Add to that 2 weeks a year, which is another 336 hours. So that's 912
hours/yr, times 16 years (18 years less boot camp and technical MOS
training, a very generous estimate) which is 14,592 hours. Now that
converts to 608 days, or 1.665 years. So for all practical purposes,
after 2 years of boot camp and MOS training you served the active duty
equivalent of slightly more than 1-1/2 years, for a grand total of
3-1/2 years, which is -LESS- than my 4 year cruise.

Kiss my hash mark, Major Dud!!!

He can kiss mine, too...four years active in Army. He can
kiss my "toilet seat" too (Presidential Unit Citation,
awarded to my Battalion twice). Poor guy tried to say
that was "impossible" that it "couldn't have been so."
Not only were those in my official documentation but in
a Signal Corps photograph with the mimeographed data on
the back of the photo. Mimeograph went out years ago in
the military and is terribly hard to forge now, especially
on photographs' backs.

We have two more toilet seats here but I wouldn't want him
to kiss them...he might dirty them up with infection. Why
waste Clorox?

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Your charade is getting really old, Dudly.

Frank, it was OLD when Dud began it seven years ago...


So...Frankie...Have any REAL proof of your "having been an EMT
proves you were a Reservist" claim, or do we just get treated to
another Lenniesque blustery diatribe?

Watching you squirm is good enough for now. I'll break out the
magnifying glass a little later.

Poor Dudly. I stood up against him long ago and he hasn't
forgotten the anger he felt at being trumped. I said in
public that Dudly was doing the Big Lie technique worth of
Goebbels' propaganda efforts of the 1930s in Germany. Dud
then tried to "turn it around" and equate me to Goebbels
for continuing to challenge him for proof of his "service."
In seven years Dud hasn't come around with ANY referencible
proof of all his "warrior" claims. Tsk, tsk.

Dudly uses "Lenniesque" to describe anyone who stands up to
him and challenges him to provide PROOF. Since he can't do
that, he resorts to the Personal Insult schtick in order to
misdirect the subject thread. Very, very old.

Frank, you are on the right track with old Dud HATING
HIMSELF. To avoid that he looks at all his challengers
seeing himself in his mind's mirror and calls them bad
things. Whenever he does this Personal Insult thing he
is really insulting himself. But, his mind is so mixed
up that he doesn't realize what he does.


Steve "Weekend Warrior" Robeson, K4YZ

MAJOR DUD.

Frank, you called it in a previous message. Excellent. :-)