"K4YZ" wrote

Yet Burger King managers, newspaper sellers,
grocery clerks, etc, get killed every day doing
their jobs, often defending those places against
an armed foe.

What sanctimonious drivel. I think I need a barf bag.

Jim owes no one an apology here, Hans.

Jim owed one, and gave one. I'd firmly shake his hand and
say "thanks" in person.

Not when you consider one of those who DID serve USED
the deaths of men who DID die in battle well before he
was even out of High School to "polish his brass" in
this very same forum.

I don't know WTF is "brass polishing", but suffice to say this. I'm
a first-generation American. I don't have any ancestors who fought
at Yorktown or Bunker Hill or Gettysburg or Tripoli or Alamo or
San Juan Hill. But I consider every American patriot who ever wore
the uniform of these United States, all the way back to the irregulars
at Bunker Hill, to be my shipmate/comrade in arms. Likewise
the sailor/soldiers/airmen/marines who serve today and in the
future. If that association is "brass polishing", then so be it.

The bottom line is that while we depend on the Armed
Forces to keep our borders safe and the "bad guys" at
bay, all those other "served in other ways" people are
no less integral to creating and maintaining our way of life.

If you say so, Steve. On Memorial Day, make a generous donation to the "American
Bridge-Painters-Who-Fell-Off-Their-Scaffold Orphans Fund"

de Hans, K0HB

From: K0HB on Dec 6, 9:24 am


"K4YZ" wrote


Yet Burger King managers, newspaper sellers,
grocery clerks, etc, get killed every day doing
their jobs, often defending those places against
an armed foe.

What sanctimonious drivel. I think I need a barf bag.

Pour the contents of the finished bag on Dudly's head. It
will make him smell better.


I don't know WTF is "brass polishing", but suffice to say this. I'm
a first-generation American. I don't have any ancestors who fought
at Yorktown or Bunker Hill or Gettysburg or Tripoli or Alamo or
San Juan Hill. But I consider every American patriot who ever wore
the uniform of these United States, all the way back to the irregulars
at Bunker Hill, to be my shipmate/comrade in arms. Likewise
the sailor/soldiers/airmen/marines who serve today and in the
future. If that association is "brass polishing", then so be it.

As another "first-generation American," I salute you proudly.

My parents came to the USA of their own volition and became
naturalized citizens of the USA. They both earned their
citizenship.

Dudly the [Marine] Imposter seeks to discredit my military
service by reference to 23 soldiers of my battalion who died
in the period of 1950 to 1963. I honor those men still,
even after standing many a Retreat ceremony at sundown in their
memory. I have all their names, service numbers, their home
towns. Hardy Barracks, about the only military location still
existant in Tokyo today was named after Corporal Elmer Hardy,
in the first group of 19 who perished on 1 July 1950. Camp
Tomlinson, the transmitter site NE of Tokyo, was named for
another signalman who perished that same day...that name
remained in use by the USAF when they had command of the
facilities from 1963 until 1978.

Now, I have to admit that I have an advantage in knowing the
"geneaology" of my military unit. I had one. Not only that,
I know when it was formed (1945), where it was when I was in
it, where it was and what it was named afterward, even to
what became of it, enduring today as the 78th Signal Battalion
at Camp Zama, Japan, and a part of USARPAC. The callsign of
USARPAC Hq today is ADA, the same as the station that my
battalion ran in the 1950s in Tokyo. Worse yet, I've been
in contact with individuals who served in my battalion even
including a civilian who worked for the Army at the
transmitter site. One of those individuals is Gene Rosenbaum,
N2JTV, who was there at the same time I was.

Dudly hasn't mentioned a single individual in any of his
claimed "outfits", made available ANY photo or snapshot of
himself taken during his alleged 18-year career, nor made
available to anyone a single one of his claimed "many"
DD-214s, has made MANY actual errors of official and un-
official names and procedures used by the Marines, has
verified NOTHING of his heroic-warrior military service,
all in seven years of unremitting vile insults at anyone
daring to challenge his opinion on anything.


If you say so, Steve. On Memorial Day, make a generous donation to the "American
Bridge-Painters-Who-Fell-Off-Their-Scaffold Orphans Fund"

By all means, Dudly, STAY AWAY from any REAL Memorial group
on Memorial Day or Veterans Day...if you wish to preserve
your wretched little life of lies and deception and dishonor
of the United States Marine Corps.



RA 16 408 336

wrote


Dudly hasn't mentioned a single individual in any of his
claimed "outfits", made available ANY photo or snapshot of
himself taken during his alleged 18-year career, nor made
available to anyone a single one of his claimed "many"
DD-214s, has made MANY actual errors of official and un-
official names and procedures used by the Marines, has
verified NOTHING of his heroic-warrior military service,
all in seven years of unremitting vile insults at anyone
daring to challenge his opinion on anything.


Len,

I'm not going to drawn into you and Franks "Steve wasn't a Marine" game.

With the exception of you naming one or two comrades and Frank posting a URL of
a scan of a DD214, I don't know of a single veteran here who has named "a single
individual", made available any photo, or verified in any way their military
service. Applying the same tests that you list above about Steve, means that
Dan, Brian, I, Jeff, and any other veterans here that I've not named, are also
imposters?

de Hans, K0HB

From: K0HB on Dec 6, 7:10 pm

wrote

Dudly hasn't mentioned a single individual in any of his
claimed "outfits", made available ANY photo or snapshot of
himself taken during his alleged 18-year career, nor made
available to anyone a single one of his claimed "many"
DD-214s, has made MANY actual errors of official and un-
official names and procedures used by the Marines, has
verified NOTHING of his heroic-warrior military service,
all in seven years of unremitting vile insults at anyone
daring to challenge his opinion on anything.

I'm not going to drawn into you and Franks "Steve wasn't a Marine" game.

You are ALREADY IN IT, like it or no.

It is NOT a "game." Such an impersonation of being military
is punishable and heaps disgrace on the service affected.

With the exception of you naming one or two comrades and Frank posting a URL of
a scan of a DD214, I don't know of a single veteran here who has named "a single
individual", made available any photo, or verified in any way their military
service.

1. There are not many veterans of the military in HERE.

2. There is a plethora of examples of many, many evidenciaries
available on the many, many websites of military veterans
all over the web.

3. "By their words ye shall know them" is a famous phrase and
that applies to ANYONE in here. We can all recognize when
some wannabe sounds suspicious if not being an outright
bull****ting liar.

4. Dudly is a class-A sumbitch with oak leaf clusters and has
been one for seven years in here. He has document NONE
visible to any of us HERE.

Applying the same tests that you list above about Steve, means that
Dan, Brian, I, Jeff, and any other veterans here that I've not named, are also
imposters?

Sorry, super chief, I'm not falling for that circular "touring"
test. Logic that ain't, queer it is. A "colossus" of ill logic. *

Dudly says he is NOT going to comply with anything. His con-man
feelings are hurt, the poor boy. Boo-hoo.

You want a 10 MB PDF all about the battalion and my station
assignment in Japan while I was in the service? I've given it
in here often enough. It is a good photo essay. Got pictures
of me and buddies in there as well.

You want to see an article in the Pacific Stars & Stripes that was
an interview of me by Rick Chernitzer about Hardy Barracks? I've
given that in here as well. Some of the 600+ photos I took while
over there were published in the Stars & Stripes.

I've digitized a number of documents I have about my military and
civlian service. In trying to send out some of them, all I get is
waaa-waaa static from the Extras who "refuse to look at it." One
sissy bitched that one had "male nudity" in it! [it is impossible
to tell gender from a "moon shot" at a distance...the gender was
assumed, sir, just ASSumed] I can send any of them as attachments
to private e-mail or I can ask someone else to put them on their
larger website (an imposition on them which requires I return a
favor and so is a fall-back position) Tsk, tsk, I've gotten a
basket full of "complaints" from Dud about my work RESUME being
a "curiculum vitae"...which it wasn't.

I've given FOUR names in this newsgroup who can vouch for what I've
said. Three of those are Amateur Extra class amateur radio
licensees, the fourth is a retired DoD civilian engineer.

Now it would be neat, tidy, and convenient if one could just "call
the VA" and the VA will verify something on anyone's personnel
record in the military? NOT SO. If one is not an authorized
human resources worker (personnel office), authorized government
agency, or family member of the individual, the information
returned is ZERO. Nil. Nada. Nyet. The VA will contact NARA
to get that but the requestor must furnish their SS number as well
as the SS number of the query individual AND a service number if
that existed for that individual. Dudly hopped up and down on
his "reference" of "just call the VA!"

Now, what does that have to do with amateur radio? Plenty when
it comes to be TRUTHFUL in here. Anyone LYING on the military
service is bound to LIE about their civilian life as well. I've
had to take Dud LYING about having a "witness" to my "applying
for a job at the former NADC and being rejected," the only true
part being that I was at NADC as a field engineer for RCA
Corporation in flight testing a collision avoidance system.
LYING about anything can be directly related to LYING about
anything else.

Getting into finer detail, both Frank Gilliland and I are NOT
licensed in the U.S. amateur radio service...yet we get all this
static from the regulars in here who are Extras. Of course the
regulars aren't that many but one spends an inordinate amount of
time on the 'net when he could be playing with his radios.

There's a lesson in that, perhaps. Mainly that unlicensed (as
amateurs) should shut up and not say anything against these
mighty extra super-pooper hams? Yes, most definitely that's the
appearance. We "aren't involved" [with amateur radio] therefore
we are to keep silent. Now, if that is the attitude of you
supreme beings in charge of it all, howinhell do you think that
looks to anyone who might be interested in getting a license?
Negative PR, super chief. Negative, negative.

Let's all applaud the former darling of the PCTA in here, Val
Germman...still a Tech, MAYBE working on his code (but
unlikely after three years). Clap clap. [clap trap]
PCTA couldn't praise Val enough, PCTA couldn't berate the
others that didn't like morse enough.

Connections. Not just a PBS TV series with James Burke. No
need to invent artifical "connections" to "tests" as you tried
to do.

Dudly is guilty until proven innocent. He got himself into
that, he can get itself out of it...but it's too late. After
seven years of crudibility, there's no way in hell he can
recoup any credibility now. Except maybe gratuitous "praise"
from Amateur Extras who will laud him to the skies...he IS a
"brother" ham, isn't he? "Representative" of "what is good"
in amateur radio?

With utmost regards and a hearty "good luck now,"




* if you don't understand that, just park your Bletchley and
think about that enigma.

Why don't you put all that crap in a big Hefty bag and bring it down to Roseta's pool hall on San Fernando and impress some of the regulars with your war stories.

The Man in the Maze
QRV from Babouivari Peak, AZ

wrote:
From: K0HB on Dec 6, 7:10 pm

It is NOT a "game." Such an impersonation of being military
is punishable and heaps disgrace on the service affected.

And you're more than welcome to file a "complaint" with the USMC
and see what results from it, Lennie...

In the mean time, we'll just go over some of those "..threat of
the Bear" and "...incomming artillery" stories of YOURS...

Steve, K4YZ

On 7 Dec 2005 07:30:12 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
From: K0HB on Dec 6, 7:10 pm

It is NOT a "game." Such an impersonation of being military
is punishable and heaps disgrace on the service affected.

And you're more than welcome to file a "complaint" with the USMC
and see what results from it, Lennie...

gee when I say something you call me paranoid (not sure sure why)

not you are resoting to it

In the mean time, we'll just go over some of those "..threat of
the Bear" and "...incomming artillery" stories of YOURS...

Steve, K4YZ

everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:10:11 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote in t:


wrote


Dudly hasn't mentioned a single individual in any of his
claimed "outfits", made available ANY photo or snapshot of
himself taken during his alleged 18-year career, nor made
available to anyone a single one of his claimed "many"
DD-214s, has made MANY actual errors of official and un-
official names and procedures used by the Marines, has
verified NOTHING of his heroic-warrior military service,
all in seven years of unremitting vile insults at anyone
daring to challenge his opinion on anything.


Len,

I'm not going to drawn into you and Franks "Steve wasn't a Marine" game.


Nobody asked you. You rubbed your own nose in it, Hans.


With the exception of you naming one or two comrades and Frank posting a URL of
a scan of a DD214, I don't know of a single veteran here who has named "a single
individual", made available any photo, or verified in any way their military
service.


Since my discharge I've met many other Marines and I've met many
fakers. Casual discussion of their MOS, or even of their service as a
Marine, is usually enough for me to tell if someone is either telling
the truth or a Dud. Steve is a Dud.


Applying the same tests that you list above about Steve, means that
Dan, Brian, I, Jeff, and any other veterans here that I've not named, are also
imposters?


Do any of you claim to have been a Marine? If not, I couldn't care
less.









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Hans and Frank and Lennie and Steve, please take your spat down to the Little Tun and quit bothering us.

The Man in the Maze
QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:10:11 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote in t:


wrote


Dudly hasn't mentioned a single individual in any of his
claimed "outfits", made available ANY photo or snapshot of
himself taken during his alleged 18-year career, nor made
available to anyone a single one of his claimed "many"
DD-214s, has made MANY actual errors of official and un-
official names and procedures used by the Marines, has
verified NOTHING of his heroic-warrior military service,
all in seven years of unremitting vile insults at anyone
daring to challenge his opinion on anything.


Nobody asked you. You rubbed your own nose in it, Hans.

Other than you and Lennie creating lies in order to substantiate
your stories, Frnakie, there's nothing to "rub" a nose in.

With the exception of you naming one or two comrades and Frank posting aURL of
a scan of a DD214, I don't know of a single veteran here who has named "a single
individual", made available any photo, or verified in any way their military
service.

Since my discharge I've met many other Marines and I've met many
fakers. Casual discussion of their MOS, or even of their service as a
Marine, is usually enough for me to tell if someone is either telling
the truth or a Dud.

Do you tell them that you couldn't keep your nose clean for ONE
enlistment, Frankie? Or do you just keep that quiet so you can feel
like you're "one of the boys"...?!?!

Steve is a Dud.

Frankie is a liar.

Applying the same tests that you list above about Steve, means that
Dan, Brian, I, Jeff, and any other veterans here that I've not named, are also
imposters?

Do any of you claim to have been a Marine? If not, I couldn't care
less.

You didn't answer his question, Jail Bird.

Steve, K4YZ