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trolling right along
wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 17:33:40 -0700, " wrote: wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 14:32:22 -0700, " wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 4:31 am wrote: From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 9:45 pm wrote: From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 2:46 pm wrote: From: Dave Heil 940 on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:26 pm wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 10 2006 7:55 am wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 7 2006 6:53 pm wrote: YOU are not of the FCC, not an official thereof... Sometimes there's no other recourse but to use a 2x4 to bang on the heads of 1x2s. :-) Ah yes - threats of physical violence. Shows how superior your arguments aren't, Len. Bad sentence structure, Jimmy Noserve. :-) Tsk. Sissy-prissy horrifications about "threats of physical violence?" :-) About some WORD PLAY?!? Poor baby... Fearless Leader wannabes ought to look around inside the newsgroup for REAL "threats of violence." Go make your horrified revelations about "threats of violence" to that other radio amateur "Not Cocksucker Lloyd." He wants to KILL Mark. Stated that in message(s). But...you only target the no-code-test advocates for your whining no-violence "complaints." You say you "can't control them (other morsemen)." H Y P O C R I T E Everyone can, by now, see your Game, Jimmy. Thank you len it is nice to have someone point that out besides me once and awhile Glad to do it, Mark. TRUTH must out, not the False Truths of the pro-coders. and once out it can tend to itself generaly Until they encounter the DISINFORMATION Corps working out of the Order of St. Hiram. :-) Jim climing not to have seen Lloyds posting you can't miss them or them Rpbespn you miss his offers of violence either unless you want to as jim does Jimmy Noserve might get a name change to "Jimmy Noseeum." :-) He is your ordinary, run-of-the-mill Hypocrite. What can one expect? hip, hip, o-critical care unit, |
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trolling right along
From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 3:36 pm
wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 4:31 am wrote: From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 9:45 pm wrote: From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 2:46 pm wrote: From: Dave Heil 940 on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:26 pm wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 10 2006 7:55 am wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 7 2006 6:53 pm wrote: YOU are not of the FCC, not an official thereof... Sometimes there's no other recourse but to use a 2x4 to bang on the heads of 1x2s. :-) Ah yes - threats of physical violence. Shows how superior your arguments aren't, Len. Bad sentence structure, Jimmy Noserve. :-) Tsk. Sissy-prissy horrifications about "threats of physical violence?" :-) About some WORD PLAY?!? Poor baby... You've tried those kinds of threats of violence here before, Len. Oh, dear, the Mighty Macho Morseman is AFRAID?!? Afraid of VIOLINS? Shall we all BOW down to him lest he pop a STRING? He wants to ROSIN his way out? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such threats, even with smileys, are the mark of someone who can't make their point verbally. Oh, oh, her holiness Mother Superior is on duty! Fearless Leader wannabes ought to look around inside the newsgroup for REAL "threats of violence." Go make your horrified revelations about "threats of violence" to that other radio amateur "Not Cocksucker Lloyd." He wants to KILL Mark. Stated that in message(s). What does that have to do with me? I do not know who "Lloyd" is, where s/he is, or what the disagreement between "Lloyd" and "Mark" is. He has not threatened to "use a 2x4 to bang on the heads of 1x2s." Awwww..."you don't know...." Poor thing isn't aware or informed. [David Horowitz would be horrified] Tsk, I post a cute saying (actually thought up by another amateur extra who did pass a 20 WPM code test) and you come all UNGLUED! Quick, call Eastman for more cyanoacrylic adhesive! In fact I don't read much of rrap at all anymore. Too much noise and too little signal. You replied to my posting so I read what you wrote. Now you're all upset, shouting and carrying on like an overtired two-year-old because I disagree with you and point out your mistakes. Me, "upset?" I pushed your buttons, mighty morseman and you come back in TYPICAL fashion, all prissy-sissy. Makes it very easy to walk all over your posting! But...you only target the no-code-test advocates for your whining no-violence "complaints." You say you "can't control them (other morsemen)." The only person I can "control" is myself, Len. Nope. You've lost control after hitting the spike strip of reality on the morse highway. For some reason you assign group blame - if one Morse Code test advocate does something you dislike, you hold *all* Morse Code test advocates responsible. Absolutely! :-) Devout morsemen can either hang together or hang separately. No problem to me. [got enough rope for either] Oh! Oh! Tremble, Jimmy, "more violence!" "more violence!" H Y P O C R I T E You can't be talking about me when you use that word, Len. Absolutely AM! :-) Lowering the requirement may do more harm than benefit. You mean ELIMINATION OF THE CODE TEST FOR AN AMATEUR LICENSE. Not just that. Lowering the written test requirements as well. WHICH no-code-test advocate said that? [Answer: NONE...that was a fabrication by morsemen] There is NO UPPER LIMIT on the written test elements in the Question Pool, Jimmy...leastways NOT from the FCC. The legal minimum is TEN pool questions for EACH required pool question. The QPC could generate 10, 20, maybe 30 times the legal minimum and be lawful...but eventually the question pool and answers could be greater than the best eidetic's abilities. Also the imposition of age requirements for an amateur radio license. Poor baby, still FIXATED on 7 years ago! I STOPPED pursuing that suggestion to the FCC (on the last page of my Comment on NPRM 98-143) SEVEN YEARS AGO! Since FCC 99-412 (the Report and Order on Restructuring) nullified all those Comments in regards to the FCC decision and did not pick up on my suggestion, I didn't continue after that. BUT...all the angry pro-code-test morsemen seem to LIKE necro-equine flagellation ('beating a dead horse') and a few beaters (like yourself) are intent on trying to breathe life in to the creature no matter what. We can all guess WHY you are doing it, Jimmy. You are obsessed with trying to prove ME 'doing wrong' and have MANUFACTURED things that haven't existed for a long time. DROP it, Jimmy. I did, long ago. All you are doing is beating off, er beating that very dead horse. Stop with your necrophilia. YES, that would do "harm" to all the 20 WPM tested US amateur extra class who got their status, rank, title, and privileges through testing for morsemanship. It would strip their BRAGGING RIGHTS in amateur radio. How? Your "friends and neighbors" might not come over to "admire your work!" BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! btw, I am not in control of what Fred posts here. Riiiight...but you love to attempt controlling what I write! :-) Gee, Len, you spend much of your verbiage here telling us how superior *you* are. Mais non, mon petit. I just stated what I did and where at what time. If you think that was 'better than you' then you have an odd insecurity problem. Why do you care, Len? Why do you care why I care? :-) No, that's not the case at all, Len. You have a case by Halliburton. :-) Some of your statements are wrong, Len. In fact many of the statements you make here are wrong. ONLY by self-righteous amateur morsemen standards. By any objective standards. For example, the ARRL has, in the past, had more than 25% of US licensed radio amateurs as members. When? In 1952? In 1939? :-) It was in a statement by an FCC official. You missed it - I didn't. I check the Federal Register daily...the FCC website weekly. When and by whom was this "statement" made? But, YOU are NOT a regulator of US amateur radio, then, now, future, or anyplace but your warped imagination. Neither are you, Len. You're just on the sidelines yelling. Tsk, tsk, then all YOU are is ON THE SIDELINES YELLING at no-code-test advocates. :-) I've had my say with the FCC - that really seems to bother you. None at all. :-) If you were worth the effort you'd have been Replied to. No problem. It's a radio *service*, Len. And like it or not, I'm part of it and you're not. All throughout Title 47 C.F.R., the word "service" is a regulatory term denoting a type and kind of radio activity being regulated. See Citizens Band Radio SERVICE or Radio Control Radio SERVICE. Are you my waiter tonight? Good, then you can serve us something palatable instead of long-dead, severly beaten horsemeat. OH! You must mean FEDERALLY LICENSED "amateur" radio! That's what the term "amateur radio" means. You're not a part of it. Do you REALLY understand the definition of "amateur?" Yes. Insufficient answer. You already said you were a "SERVICE." Try to get your act together. And be quick with that horsemeat. Are you saying that amateur radio does not perform any service to the country? Encapsulated in the briefest meaning, YES. United States amateur radio could disappear at midnight and the regular and emergency communications of the USA would keep on functioning. Police would respond to radio calls, fire engines would roll, ambulances would be dispatched, Local governments would continue without pause, already having lots and lots of radio equipment and operators. Air traffic would continue, maritime traffic would continue, trains would still be training, highways would continue to function (and be repaired/renovated) as needed, all without ham radio. Cellular telephony would continue (1 in 3 Americans having one), the Internet would continue, landline telephony would continue. Mass Media (Broadcasting) would continue unabated. The Forest Service would continue spotting fires, reporting any via their own radios. River and Inland Waterways would still have their VHF FM voice communications. GPSS would continue functioning. NOAA would still continue with weather information. Emergencies at sea would still be handled by GMDSS. Emergencies in the air would still be handled by VHF (over land) and HF voice (over ocean). Emergencies on land would be handled by a variety of Public Safety Radio Service facilities, all tied together in large networks that operate nicely. All in the preceding paragraph are INDEPENDENT of amateur radio, Jimmy. They ARE a definite SERVICE to the USA and the people within it. Public safety 24/7. Now, it MIGHT happen that aliens from outer space MIGHT invade the earth. "ONLY" morse code skill can possibly thwart these advanced aliens who have sufficient knowledge and intelligence to cross interstellar space? [work on your script some more...it was already done...] The fact remains that the training and experience you received in military service were subsidized by the taxpayers. So was any work on "government funded" projects. Tsk, tsk, tsk...all of Heil's 'foreign service' adventures, salary, expenses, et al, came DIRECTLY out of government. No "subsidy" there. I have NEVER worked for any business, company, corporation that was "subsidized" by the government. NONE. You are confused on the use of the word "subsidy." Who is "we", Len? I know where I work and what I do, as do some of the folks who read rrap. And the REST of us are kept in the dark. Is this a mystery game you made up? :-) Something to take the place of playing "old maid?" Are you ASHAMED of your job? AFRAID someone will POKE FUN at it? Why? You aren't hesitant about poking fun at whatever job a no-code-test-advocate has...you've done that repeatedly. There are plenty of people who are not in the military who put their lives on the line, too. For example, firemen, law enforcement officers, emergency response people, many health care workers are at risk of death in their line of work. Save all your homily grits for the next 9/11 anniversary. Don't try to weasel out of what I said. They *all* deserve respect for what they do. Then start SHOWING that "respect" to some of us you've made fun of...HYPOCRITE. Yet you worked on projects that were funded by the government, right? If so, you were subsidized by the taxpayers. NOT "subsidies." ... If your employer was paid by the govt. for work you did, then your paycheck came from the taxpayers. INCORRECT AGAIN! [don't you ever learn] My salary checks came from private businesses/corporations. If you insist on going into some strange financial trail excursion where you need a CPA with superskills. :-) But, you still don't have the GUTS to tell "the rest of us" in this newsgroup what, where of your employment, do you? No, you want to negatively criticize those of us who are proud and enthusiastic about what we do, have done. When you dismount from your high hobby horse you can - if you have the courage - tell what YOU do for a living? Why should I tell you, Len? I already know how you will react. WE already know, Jimmy...you ain't got the GUTS to do so. You haven't got the GUTS to explain, do you? It's not about guts, Len. Sigh...let me rephrase: You haven't got the COURAGE. "Guts" is too visceral for sissy-prissies. All it means is that you aren't a participant. You're all talk and no action. All hat and no cattle. All theory and no practice. And here you were, rushing home from "work in transportation" to answer without much "civility" and with lots of semantic juggling to attempt defending your previous statements. :-) I don't HEAR you on the radio! :-) Tsk. You will quibble semantics forever just to appear YOU are "right." :-) No. Because I *am* right. You "*are* superior" because you are a morseman. :-) Morsemen are "always right" in your view, aren't they? Selling something does not make one "right". YOU are always "selling a bill of goods." :-) We see your "hat" but we can't hear any hoofbeats of all that "cattle." :-) Is your Hide Raw? Quick, Jimmy...go to Chicago so you can appear as a guest replacement for Roger Ebert on "Ebert and Roeper!" There's still a chance for you to get famous. If you are clever, you can slip in some biased PR for morse code and reach MILLIONS in the audience! :-) [that would be one helluva lot better than what the ARRL has done so far...] Poor baby...got TWO "thumbs down," did you? Sweetums, you MANUFACTURE "errors" (that aren't really errors per se, only some semantic quibbles and bits that only satisfy your image hunger). Bone apetite, doggy boy. Your errors are of all kinds, Len. You make them, not me. No, sweetums, YOU MAKE THEM UP...then say "I" made them. For an alleged professional writer you sure don't proofread or check facts very well. You want what you paid me for professional work in here refunded? Okay, attached to this message is a refund. :-) However, your intolerance of disagreement with your opinions is demonstrated in practically everything you post here. Call the ACLU, call the Attorney General, call for Philip and call for Morris. Poor baby, wanna act smug and arrogant and superior and hope to get LIKED?!? Only by some masochist, sweetums. :-) I'm a judge of what's true and what isn't, Len. You are a morseman and you're okay... :-) You are naturally superior in all aspects. Except your aspect is in a sling. It's your uncivil and childish behavior that's intolerant, Len. Oh, you expect ALL your "inferiors" to be masochists? Tsk, tsk, the FCC has NO age limit on amateur radio. Now YOU don't like childish behavior? Too bad, the FCC would allow a 2-year-old to hold a ham license. :-) Where did I make fun of anyone's military service, Len? Show us. Drop this "show us" ploy, Jimmy Noserve. That's an OLD trick, trying to make the challenged go through all those (if available) archives, cut-and-paste, only to have you rationalize YOU are "right" because you're a morseman, etc. :-) That "show us" response of actually showing where and when you did it is negative ROI. As I said, you, when confronted, will DENY it, rationalize some "reasons" that you are "right" and then ignore it. :-) Besides, OLD POSTS are in the past...they've already been argued over. You are NOT going to "win" any such OLD argument by repetition of the SAME posts from archives! But...you keep on trying and trying and trying. You got very trying a long time ago. What someone else posts here is their business, Len. Ah! The no-guts rationalization hard at work! :-) So..."someone else" isn't bothered with, but you DO try to bring me down every chance you get! :-) What do you FEAR from me, Jimmy? C'mon, you can level with the group... You don't like your image from the other side of your screen described for others? Tsk...and a Mother Superior at that! Now do try and behave a bit more civilly. Is that an ORDER, Mother? Or just something FROM the Order? ["Give a nun an inch and she thinks she's a ruler!] Now be good and change your Habit. Say goodnight...grazie. Slap, slap, |
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David Heil/K8MN Kicks-Off Run for the Roanoke Division with a Typo
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:46:02 GMT, Slow Code wrote: " wrote in groups.com: Absolutely NO no-code-test advocate is good enough for these mighty radio gods of the amateur morseways. :-) Bow down and worship when you say that. why? Because Morseman aren't lazy and stupid, we're better than you are. Now bow down and worship, And pray to be healed from your mental illness and laziness so that you can be a real ham. If you pass CW I would welcome you onto HF. Until that happens, you're just a phoney. SC |
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David Heil/K8MN Kicks-Off Run for the Roanoke Division with a Typo
wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Wed, Sep 13 2006 6:33 pm wrote: On 13 Sep 2006 16:51:19 -0700, wrote: Dave Heil wrote: I have no reason to do so. I'm lquite comfortable in my skin. From another thread, Dave Heil wrote: I don't think a guy who can't spell "believe" is ready to lead anyone anywhere. Dave K8MN I'll couple your next typo to that statement in preperation for your run for the Roanoke Division. amazing the concenr these guys have over spelling Only other people's spelling. Note my typo in "preparation." I guess I'm not made of leadership material, either. Brian, you forgot the "H" after 'Preparation'... :-) Dang It!!! Another typo. Well, someone has to look after those anal-retentives... :-) That remark should cause Robesin to come charging in. Had Fearless Leader applied that he wouldn't have written "lquite" after "I have no reason to do so..." :-) Do you think he meant "I be quiet," or "I quit?" Hard to tell, but Fearless Leader won't stoop...er, STOP on his quixotic quest of denigrating all who do not bow down and worship his mighty accomplishments of morsemanship. Reminds me of Don Quixotic, tipping at no-code test advocates. Of course Heil as the "authority" to correct everyone's spelling. He is a certified, authorized, (self) appointed extra class linguist. He is fluent in written Hunnish. He is effluent. Absolutely NO no-code-test advocate is good enough for these mighty radio gods of the amateur morseways. :-) We'll see. That WILL be fun! :-) I'll actually break my vow of abstinance and get on 20M. Pop, pop, flap, flap, (damn, another morseman hit that spike strip...) As long as they don't hit their puffed up chests on the spike strips the earth will continue on it's predicted orbit. |
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Service To The Country
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Service To The Country
wrote: wrote: Are you saying that amateur radio does not perform any service to the country? Encapsulated in the briefest meaning, YES. You're just plain wrong about that, Len. I disagree with Len on this point. Amateur Radio can be a service to the country. United States amateur radio could disappear at midnight and the regular and emergency communications of the USA would keep on functioning. Police would respond to radio calls, fire engines would roll, ambulances would be dispatched, Local governments would continue without pause, already having lots and lots of radio equipment and operators. Air traffic would continue, maritime traffic would continue, trains would still be training, highways would continue to function (and be repaired/renovated) as needed, all without ham radio. Cellular telephony would continue (1 in 3 Americans having one), the Internet would continue, landline telephony would continue. Mass Media (Broadcasting) would continue unabated. The Forest Service would continue spotting fires, reporting any via their own radios. River and Inland Waterways would still have their VHF FM voice communications. GPSS would continue functioning. NOAA would still continue with weather information. Emergencies at sea would still be handled by GMDSS. Emergencies in the air would still be handled by VHF (over land) and HF voice (over ocean). Emergencies on land would be handled by a variety of Public Safety Radio Service facilities, all tied together in large networks that operate nicely. That's all true. But it does not mean that Amateur Radio does not perform any service to the country. The problem is the amateurs that ramp up the actual service to the country into a superman complex. All in the preceding paragraph are INDEPENDENT of amateur radio, Jimmy. They ARE a definite SERVICE to the USA and the people within it. Public safety 24/7. Yet there are times when those communications services are inadequate for the situation, and Amateur Radio meets the need. That's when Amateur Radio performs a service to the country. It can be as simple as using Amateur Radio communication to report a broken-down vehicle in a spot where cell phones don't work. No, you can't include this. I was laughed at when I suggested that cellular telephones handle minor emergencies on a day in and day out basis. So if these emergencies aren't really emergencies, then when a no-coder with a VHF radio steps in where the cell network doesn't cover, the "emergency" still isn't an emergency. Another example was when the space shuttle disintegrated on reentry a few years ago. There was an extensive search effort to find pieces of the wreckage - which were spread over a wide area. What was the emergency? The crew were beyond saving. The property was beyond saving. Some of the communications for the search efforts were conducted by Amateur Radio, because other facilities were unavailable or did not meet the needs of the searchers. So? That's service to the country. Not by the definition of saving life or property? There are many more examples, from hurricane Katrina to providing communications for a parade or similar event. OK, you're finally getting to an emergency. Your claim that Amateur Radio does not perform any service to the country is simply not true, Len. It's an error on *your* part - I didn't make it up. Just don't overinflate our actual involvement. Read the report on Hurricane Katrina that details what worked and what didn't. Amateur Radio provided an important service to the country - according to the authors of the report. Fair enough. |
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Service To The Country
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wrote: wrote: Are you saying that amateur radio does not perform any service to the country? Encapsulated in the briefest meaning, YES. You're just plain wrong about that, Len. I disagree with Len on this point. Amateur Radio can be a service to the country. I say Amateur Radio does perform service to the country. Not just "can", but "does". Even if all Amateur Radio does is provide a back-up communications system, that's a service. United States amateur radio could disappear at midnight and the regular and emergency communications of the USA would keep on functioning. Police would respond to radio calls, fire engines would roll, ambulances would be dispatched, Local governments would continue without pause, already having lots and lots of radio equipment and operators. Air traffic would continue, maritime traffic would continue, trains would still be training, highways would continue to function (and be repaired/renovated) as needed, all without ham radio. Cellular telephony would continue (1 in 3 Americans having one), the Internet would continue, landline telephony would continue. Mass Media (Broadcasting) would continue unabated. The Forest Service would continue spotting fires, reporting any via their own radios. River and Inland Waterways would still have their VHF FM voice communications. GPSS would continue functioning. NOAA would still continue with weather information. Emergencies at sea would still be handled by GMDSS. Emergencies in the air would still be handled by VHF (over land) and HF voice (over ocean). Emergencies on land would be handled by a variety of Public Safety Radio Service facilities, all tied together in large networks that operate nicely. That's all true. But it does not mean that Amateur Radio does not perform any service to the country. The problem is the amateurs that ramp up the actual service to the country into a superman complex. *Some* amateurs certainly overstate things about amateur radio. However, to say that Amateur Radio performs no service to the country is incorrect. All in the preceding paragraph are INDEPENDENT of amateur radio, Jimmy. They ARE a definite SERVICE to the USA and the people within it. Public safety 24/7. Yet there are times when those communications services are inadequate for the situation, and Amateur Radio meets the need. That's when Amateur Radio performs a service to the country. It can be as simple as using Amateur Radio communication to report a broken-down vehicle in a spot where cell phones don't work. No, you can't include this. I was laughed at when I suggested that cellular telephones handle minor emergencies on a day in and day out basis. When was that? Cell phones are certainly useful for "minor emergencies". I've made a few 911 calls from mine. Where cell phones have a problem is when too many people in the same area try to use them simultaneously, exceeding the system capacity. So if these emergencies aren't really emergencies, then when a no-coder with a VHF radio steps in where the cell network doesn't cover, the "emergency" still isn't an emergency. Another example was when the space shuttle disintegrated on reentry a few years ago. There was an extensive search effort to find pieces of the wreckage - which were spread over a wide area. What was the emergency? Public service isn't just about emergencies. Emergency communications is just one part of how Amateur Radio provides service to the country. The crew were beyond saving. The property was beyond saving. Finding as much wreckage as possible could help prevent another shuttle disaster. Some of the communications for the search efforts were conducted by Amateur Radio, because other facilities were unavailable or did not meet the needs of the searchers. So? So providing communications to the searchers was a service to the country - even though it wasn't an emergency. That's service to the country. Not by the definition of saving life or property? Service is about more than emergencies. The radio services listed by Len include some which are not primarily about emergencies. Here's a first-person account of a radio amateur who helped with the Columbia wreckage search: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9?dmode=source There are many more examples, from hurricane Katrina to providing communications for a parade or similar event. OK, you're finally getting to an emergency. Public service isn't just about emergencies. Your claim that Amateur Radio does not perform any service to the country is simply not true, Len. It's an error on *your* part - I didn't make it up. Just don't overinflate our actual involvement. Of course. Read the report on Hurricane Katrina that details what worked and what didn't. Amateur Radio provided an important service to the country - according to the authors of the report. Fair enough. |
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trolling right along
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From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 3:36 pm wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 14 2006 4:31 am wrote: From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 9:45 pm wrote: From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 2:46 pm wrote: From: Dave Heil 940 on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:26 pm wrote: From: on Sun, Sep 10 2006 7:55 am wrote: From: on Thurs, Sep 7 2006 6:53 pm wrote: Oh, dear, the Mighty Macho Morseman is AFRAID?!? Afraid of VIOLINS? Shall we all BOW down to him lest he pop a STRING? He wants to ROSIN his way out? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, oh, her holiness Mother Superior is on duty! Awwww..."you don't know...." Poor thing isn't aware or informed. [David Horowitz would be horrified] Tsk, I post a cute saying (actually thought up by another amateur extra who did pass a 20 WPM code test) and you come all UNGLUED! Quick, call Eastman for more cyanoacrylic adhesive! Me, "upset?" I pushed your buttons, mighty morseman and you come back in TYPICAL fashion, all prissy-sissy. Makes it very easy to walk all over your posting! Nope. You've lost control after hitting the spike strip of reality on the morse highway. Devout morsemen can either hang together or hang separately. No problem to me. [got enough rope for either] Oh! Oh! Tremble, Jimmy, "more violence!" "more violence!" Poor baby, still FIXATED on 7 years ago! I STOPPED pursuing that suggestion to the FCC (on the last page of my Comment on NPRM 98-143) SEVEN YEARS AGO! Since FCC 99-412 (the Report and Order on Restructuring) nullified all those Comments in regards to the FCC decision and did not pick up on my suggestion, I didn't continue after that. BUT...all the angry pro-code-test morsemen seem to LIKE necro-equine flagellation ('beating a dead horse') and a few beaters (like yourself) are intent on trying to breathe life in to the creature no matter what. We can all guess WHY you are doing it, Jimmy. You are obsessed with trying to prove ME 'doing wrong' and have MANUFACTURED things that haven't existed for a long time. DROP it, Jimmy. I did, long ago. All you are doing is beating off, er beating that very dead horse. Stop with your necrophilia. Your "friends and neighbors" might not come over to "admire your work!" BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Riiiight...but you love to attempt controlling what I write! :-) Mais non, mon petit. I just stated what I did and where at what time. If you think that was 'better than you' then you have an odd insecurity problem. You have a case by Halliburton. :-) Tsk, tsk, then all YOU are is ON THE SIDELINES YELLING at no-code-test advocates. :-) None at all. :-) If you were worth the effort you'd have been Replied to. No problem. Are you my waiter tonight? Good, then you can serve us something palatable instead of long-dead, severly beaten horsemeat. Try to get your act together. And be quick with that horsemeat. Now, it MIGHT happen that aliens from outer space MIGHT invade the earth. "ONLY" morse code skill can possibly thwart these advanced aliens who have sufficient knowledge and intelligence to cross interstellar space? [work on your script some more...it was already done...] Tsk, tsk, tsk...all of Heil's 'foreign service' adventures, salary, expenses, et al, came DIRECTLY out of government. No "subsidy" there. I have NEVER worked for any business, company, corporation that was "subsidized" by the government. NONE. You are confused on the use of the word "subsidy." And the REST of us are kept in the dark. Is this a mystery game you made up? :-) Something to take the place of playing "old maid?" Are you ASHAMED of your job? AFRAID someone will POKE FUN at it? Why? You aren't hesitant about poking fun at whatever job a no-code-test-advocate has...you've done that repeatedly. Save all your homily grits for the next 9/11 anniversary. Don't try to weasel out of what I said. Then start SHOWING that "respect" to some of us you've made fun of...HYPOCRITE. But, you still don't have the GUTS to tell "the rest of us" in this newsgroup what, where of your employment, do you? No, you want to negatively criticize those of us who are proud and enthusiastic about what we do, have done. WE already know, Jimmy...you ain't got the GUTS to do so. Sigh...let me rephrase: You haven't got the COURAGE. "Guts" is too visceral for sissy-prissies. And here you were, rushing home from "work in transportation" to answer without much "civility" and with lots of semantic juggling to attempt defending your previous statements. :-) I don't HEAR you on the radio! :-) You "*are* superior" because you are a morseman. :-) Morsemen are "always right" in your view, aren't they? YOU are always "selling a bill of goods." :-) We see your "hat" but we can't hear any hoofbeats of all that "cattle." :-) Is your Hide Raw? Poor baby...got TWO "thumbs down," did you? No, sweetums, YOU MAKE THEM UP...then say "I" made them. You want what you paid me for professional work in here refunded? Okay, attached to this message is a refund. :-) Call the ACLU, call the Attorney General, call for Philip and call for Morris. Poor baby, wanna act smug and arrogant and superior and hope to get LIKED?!? Only by some masochist, sweetums. :-) You are a morseman and you're okay... :-) You are naturally superior in all aspects. Except your aspect is in a sling. Oh, you expect ALL your "inferiors" to be masochists? Tsk, tsk, the FCC has NO age limit on amateur radio. Now YOU don't like childish behavior? Too bad, the FCC would allow a 2-year-old to hold a ham license. :-) Drop this "show us" ploy, Jimmy Noserve. That's an OLD trick, trying to make the challenged go through all those (if available) archives, cut-and-paste, only to have you rationalize YOU are "right" because you're a morseman, etc. :-) That "show us" response of actually showing where and when you did it is negative ROI. As I said, you, when confronted, will DENY it, rationalize some "reasons" that you are "right" and then ignore it. :-) Besides, OLD POSTS are in the past...they've already been argued over. You are NOT going to "win" any such OLD argument by repetition of the SAME posts from archives! But...you keep on trying and trying and trying. You got very trying a long time ago. Ah! The no-guts rationalization hard at work! :-) So..."someone else" isn't bothered with, but you DO try to bring me down every chance you get! :-) What do you FEAR from me, Jimmy? C'mon, you can level with the group... You don't like your image from the other side of your screen described for others? Tsk...and a Mother Superior at that! Is that an ORDER, Mother? Or just something FROM the Order? ["Give a nun an inch and she thinks she's a ruler!] Now be good and change your Habit. Say goodnight...grazie. Slap, slap, There you have it. Len acts surprised when he is called on his actions. He complains of being denigrated and insulted, but he denigrates and insults. He is the Rodney Dangerfield of r.r.a.p. in complaining of getting no respect, but he is no respecter of those in disagreement with him. He is the first to complain when someone calls him a name, but the first one to use made-up names to others. Len is the embodiment of the N2EY profile of his actions. He cannot help himself and he cannot help the cause in which he has appointed himself advocate. Radio amateurs will be using morse code long after you are gone, Leonard. Hams will still be performing public service and emergency communications. They'll be working DX and ragchewing. They'll be handling message traffic. You can't be a part of it after your departure and you aren't a part of it now. Leonard Anderson, sidewalk superintendent of amateur radio. Dave K8MN |
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Service To The Country
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: Are you saying that amateur radio does not perform any service to the country? Encapsulated in the briefest meaning, YES. You're just plain wrong about that, Len. I disagree with Len on this point. Amateur Radio can be a service to the country. I say Amateur Radio does perform service to the country. Not just "can", but "does". Every amateur transmission is a service to the country? Even if all Amateur Radio does is provide a back-up communications system, that's a service. A back-up provides exactly the same kind of service as the service that is being backed up. Does amateur radio provide that? United States amateur radio could disappear at midnight and the regular and emergency communications of the USA would keep on functioning. Police would respond to radio calls, fire engines would roll, ambulances would be dispatched, Local governments would continue without pause, already having lots and lots of radio equipment and operators. Air traffic would continue, maritime traffic would continue, trains would still be training, highways would continue to function (and be repaired/renovated) as needed, all without ham radio. Cellular telephony would continue (1 in 3 Americans having one), the Internet would continue, landline telephony would continue. Mass Media (Broadcasting) would continue unabated. The Forest Service would continue spotting fires, reporting any via their own radios. River and Inland Waterways would still have their VHF FM voice communications. GPSS would continue functioning. NOAA would still continue with weather information. Emergencies at sea would still be handled by GMDSS. Emergencies in the air would still be handled by VHF (over land) and HF voice (over ocean). Emergencies on land would be handled by a variety of Public Safety Radio Service facilities, all tied together in large networks that operate nicely. That's all true. But it does not mean that Amateur Radio does not perform any service to the country. The problem is the amateurs that ramp up the actual service to the country into a superman complex. *Some* amateurs certainly overstate things about amateur radio. Thus my posting last month quoting an ARRL VP. However, to say that Amateur Radio performs no service to the country is incorrect. Agreed. All in the preceding paragraph are INDEPENDENT of amateur radio, Jimmy. They ARE a definite SERVICE to the USA and the people within it. Public safety 24/7. Yet there are times when those communications services are inadequate for the situation, and Amateur Radio meets the need. That's when Amateur Radio performs a service to the country. It can be as simple as using Amateur Radio communication to report a broken-down vehicle in a spot where cell phones don't work. No, you can't include this. I was laughed at when I suggested that cellular telephones handle minor emergencies on a day in and day out basis. When was that? Why would you care? You ignore Robesin's all caps, accusatory thread jacking when it happens. Cell phones are certainly useful for "minor emergencies". I've made a few 911 calls from mine. Where cell phones have a problem is when too many people in the same area try to use them simultaneously, exceeding the system capacity. Yet some calls still are still getting through. Some calls are performing emergency comms. No? So if these emergencies aren't really emergencies, then when a no-coder with a VHF radio steps in where the cell network doesn't cover, the "emergency" still isn't an emergency. Another example was when the space shuttle disintegrated on reentry a few years ago. There was an extensive search effort to find pieces of the wreckage - which were spread over a wide area. What was the emergency? Public service isn't just about emergencies. Fair enough. Emergency communications is just one part of how Amateur Radio provides service to the country. It can be. The crew were beyond saving. The property was beyond saving. Finding as much wreckage as possible could help prevent another shuttle disaster. How many years were the shuttles grounded? Lots of time to collect the wreckage. Some of the communications for the search efforts were conducted by Amateur Radio, because other facilities were unavailable or did not meet the needs of the searchers. So? So providing communications to the searchers was a service to the country - even though it wasn't an emergency. Fair enough. That's service to the country. Not by the definition of saving life or property? Service is about more than emergencies. The radio services listed by Len include some which are not primarily about emergencies. Here's a first-person account of a radio amateur who helped with the Columbia wreckage search: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9?dmode=source There are many more examples, from hurricane Katrina to providing communications for a parade or similar event. OK, you're finally getting to an emergency. Public service isn't just about emergencies. Not all communications surrounding Katrina were emcomms. Your claim that Amateur Radio does not perform any service to the country is simply not true, Len. It's an error on *your* part - I didn't make it up. Just don't overinflate our actual involvement. Of course. Read the report on Hurricane Katrina that details what worked and what didn't. Amateur Radio provided an important service to the country - according to the authors of the report. Fair enough. |
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