Richard Riley wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:42:14 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
wrote:


"Leading scientists"??? Experts in the appropriate fields support the
NIST explanations -- NOT those of Jones, et. al! Jones' field of
expertise a cold fusion, the journeys of Jesus Christ through the
Americas. He has zero experience in structures or anything else relevant
to the subject.


You know, until this very moment I harbored a tiny hope that somehow
there was something real about cold fusion.

sigh

I guess next you'll tell me that the Masons aren't really in charge of
everything.

That's correct. The carpenters are now in charge. Masonry is passe. :-)

Matt

In Matt Whiting writes:

I guess next you'll tell me that the Masons aren't really in charge of
everything.

That's correct. The carpenters are now in charge. Masonry is passe. :-)

Bringing us back to the dawn of Christianity...


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Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?

Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg


p.s. take rec.aviation out of your replies - they're only interested in
the plane part.

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube" design
consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on 100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of nothing but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.

In article ,
"Mike Painter" wrote:

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube" design
consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on 100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of nothing but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.




Maaybe it never occured to this Dufus, that these columns were built in
30Ft lengths and bolted together, or welded, as the building was
erected. Since these columns were all designed to be in "Compression",
when the lateral failure of the Exterior Tube happened, they would
naturally come out of compression, and break at their 30 Ft original
lengths. Duhh, this is first Year Structural Engineer stuff, but I guess
it would be beyound, the comprehension of the above, GED Dufus.......

"You" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Mike Painter" wrote:

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused
by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube" design
consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on
100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of nothing
but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.




Maaybe it never occured to this Dufus, that these columns were built in
30Ft lengths and bolted together, or welded, as the building was
erected. Since these columns were all designed to be in "Compression",
when the lateral failure of the Exterior Tube happened, they would
naturally come out of compression, and break at their 30 Ft original
lengths. Duhh, this is first Year Structural Engineer stuff, but I guess
it would be beyound, the comprehension of the above, GED Dufus.......

It doesn't matter to them - all they want to do is ignore the obvious and
try to stir up ****. What they fail to see is when they ignore the facts -
it makes them look like the assholes they are.

Personally, I hate seeing all this 9/11 stuff being restirred. Not because
of disrespect - but because it makes me want to go out and destroy all those
rag heads for causing the deaths of so many innocent people. IMHO - we're
treating them with kid gloves, even those who now reside in this country
"supposedly" legally. I don't trust a one of them. WAR IS WAR. They didn't
give a **** about who they hurt or killed - why the hell should "I" care if
they all die? I DON'T. Their so called religion is about peace.........
ROFLMAO......... PEACE MY ASS........ Its their way or no way. **** THEM
ALL - AND ANYONE who wants to side with them even if making conspiracy
twists to try to say those ragheads had nothing to do with it.

L.

Toto the Dog wrote:

Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?

Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

had one of my friends look at that so-called evidence of yours. that picture
is so low res you can't even tell that it is ground zero, let alone what is
there.

nice try but no soap boss!