In article ,
"Mike Painter" wrote:

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube" design
consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on 100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of nothing but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.




Maaybe it never occured to this Dufus, that these columns were built in
30Ft lengths and bolted together, or welded, as the building was
erected. Since these columns were all designed to be in "Compression",
when the lateral failure of the Exterior Tube happened, they would
naturally come out of compression, and break at their 30 Ft original
lengths. Duhh, this is first Year Structural Engineer stuff, but I guess
it would be beyound, the comprehension of the above, GED Dufus.......

"You" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Mike Painter" wrote:

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not left
standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths? Why
weren't those columns standing after the floors had suposedly 'slid
down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused
by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube" design
consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on
100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of nothing
but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.




Maaybe it never occured to this Dufus, that these columns were built in
30Ft lengths and bolted together, or welded, as the building was
erected. Since these columns were all designed to be in "Compression",
when the lateral failure of the Exterior Tube happened, they would
naturally come out of compression, and break at their 30 Ft original
lengths. Duhh, this is first Year Structural Engineer stuff, but I guess
it would be beyound, the comprehension of the above, GED Dufus.......

It doesn't matter to them - all they want to do is ignore the obvious and
try to stir up ****. What they fail to see is when they ignore the facts -
it makes them look like the assholes they are.

Personally, I hate seeing all this 9/11 stuff being restirred. Not because
of disrespect - but because it makes me want to go out and destroy all those
rag heads for causing the deaths of so many innocent people. IMHO - we're
treating them with kid gloves, even those who now reside in this country
"supposedly" legally. I don't trust a one of them. WAR IS WAR. They didn't
give a **** about who they hurt or killed - why the hell should "I" care if
they all die? I DON'T. Their so called religion is about peace.........
ROFLMAO......... PEACE MY ASS........ Its their way or no way. **** THEM
ALL - AND ANYONE who wants to side with them even if making conspiracy
twists to try to say those ragheads had nothing to do with it.

L.

L. wrote:
"You" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Mike Painter" wrote:

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not
left standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot
lengths? Why weren't those columns standing after the floors had
suposedly 'slid down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems
caused by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube"
design consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box
section on 100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of
nothing but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.




Maaybe it never occured to this Dufus, that these columns were built
in 30Ft lengths and bolted together, or welded, as the building was
erected. Since these columns were all designed to be in
"Compression", when the lateral failure of the Exterior Tube
happened, they would naturally come out of compression, and break at
their 30 Ft original lengths. Duhh, this is first Year Structural
Engineer stuff, but I guess it would be beyound, the comprehension
of the above, GED Dufus.......

It doesn't matter to them - all they want to do is ignore the obvious
and try to stir up ****. What they fail to see is when they ignore
the facts - it makes them look like the assholes they are.

Personally, I hate seeing all this 9/11 stuff being restirred. Not
because of disrespect - but because it makes me want to go out and
destroy all those rag heads for causing the deaths of so many
innocent people. IMHO - we're treating them with kid gloves, even
those who now reside in this country "supposedly" legally. I don't
trust a one of them. WAR IS WAR. They didn't give a **** about who
they hurt or killed - why the hell should "I" care if they all die? I
DON'T. Their so called religion is about peace.........
ROFLMAO......... PEACE MY ASS........ Its their way or no way. ****
THEM ALL - AND ANYONE who wants to side with them even if making
conspiracy twists to try to say those ragheads had nothing to do with
it.

Now you have some idea of why most of that reagion wants to kill all of us.
For over a generation "Made in USA" was on the bombs that killed them and
the planes that dropped.
The ones who *DON'T THINK* react just as you do.

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
.. .
L. wrote:
"You" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Mike Painter" wrote:

Toto the Dog wrote:
Each tower had 40 huge steel columns running up the centre. If the
booms you can hear during the collapse were the floors hitting each
other and not demolition charges why were these steel columns not
left standing but found at the debris pile in uniform 30 foot
lengths? Why weren't those columns standing after the floors had
suposedly 'slid down' around them?


Here's one of the columns:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2...dcolumnfy6.jpg

That's a picture of something but please give us the pictures and
information on
a "debris pile in uniform 30 foot lengths"

As for the "huge steel columns"
"The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems
caused by
the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight "perimeter tube"
design consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box
section on 100
cm centers, with 95% of the structure's interior consisting of
nothing but
air Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core,
designed to provide additional support to the tower."

I don't consider 36 cm (less than 15 inches) huge in that context.




Maaybe it never occured to this Dufus, that these columns were built
in 30Ft lengths and bolted together, or welded, as the building was
erected. Since these columns were all designed to be in
"Compression", when the lateral failure of the Exterior Tube
happened, they would naturally come out of compression, and break at
their 30 Ft original lengths. Duhh, this is first Year Structural
Engineer stuff, but I guess it would be beyound, the comprehension
of the above, GED Dufus.......

It doesn't matter to them - all they want to do is ignore the obvious
and try to stir up ****. What they fail to see is when they ignore
the facts - it makes them look like the assholes they are.

Personally, I hate seeing all this 9/11 stuff being restirred. Not
because of disrespect - but because it makes me want to go out and
destroy all those rag heads for causing the deaths of so many
innocent people. IMHO - we're treating them with kid gloves, even
those who now reside in this country "supposedly" legally. I don't
trust a one of them. WAR IS WAR. They didn't give a **** about who
they hurt or killed - why the hell should "I" care if they all die? I
DON'T. Their so called religion is about peace.........
ROFLMAO......... PEACE MY ASS........ Its their way or no way. ****
THEM ALL - AND ANYONE who wants to side with them even if making
conspiracy twists to try to say those ragheads had nothing to do with
it.

Now you have some idea of why most of that reagion wants to kill all of
us. For over a generation "Made in USA" was on the bombs that killed them
and the planes that dropped.
The ones who *DON'T THINK* react just as you do.


Sorry dude, MY line of thinking - DIDN"T INVITE THOSE COCK SUCKERS HERE TO
KILL. "I" had nothing against them until they pulled this **** off. AND for
that - I will NEVER forgive them. They all deserve to die. Even their brand
of religion is "flawed".

I guess you're one of those who would open the gates to allow them all to
move in and the Mexicans too - huh?

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

L.

L. wrote:
snip

Now you have some idea of why most of that reagion wants to kill all
of us. For over a generation "Made in USA" was on the bombs that
killed them and the planes that dropped.
The ones who *DON'T THINK* react just as you do.


Sorry dude, MY line of thinking - DIDN"T INVITE THOSE COCK SUCKERS
HERE TO KILL. "I" had nothing against them until they pulled this
**** off. AND for that - I will NEVER forgive them. They all deserve
to die. Even their brand of religion is "flawed".

And the women and children who have died every day from bombs, bullets and
starvation since the first gulf war had nothing to do with 9/11.
In fact there probably were no people from Iraq on the planes and *you* buy
some of your gas from the country with the most people represented Saudi,
Arabia.

I doubt you know enought about your religion to call Islam flawed.


I guess you're one of those who would open the gates to allow them
all to move in and the Mexicans too - huh?

"I had nothing against them" is similar to BillCosby's "I have nothing
against them" in his classic monolog on bigotry.
I suppose you feel that way against the German's, Japanese, British, Native
American's and others who have killed far more Americans than were killed in
9/11.

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand of
American arms.


L.

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand of
American arms.

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That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately how you win wars.
Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this for a long time. There is no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are. Those ragheads
have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a long, long time. Its time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be praying to
Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it for them.



J

Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand
of American arms.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately
how you win wars. Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this
for a long time. There is no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are.
Those ragheads have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a
long, long time. Its time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be
praying to Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye
shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter
what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the
ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it
for them.

Gosh, where have I heard that before. I remember, it was when we were
trying to stop the domionos by fighting in Viet Nam.

Phrases from the bible,
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but
rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be
divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against
the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against
her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 22:36
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

"Jeff" wrote in message
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"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand of
American arms.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately how you
win wars.
Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this for a long time. There is
no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are. Those
ragheads
have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a long, long time. Its
time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be
praying to
Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the
ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it for
them.



J



Now THAT I can agree with! Especially the last part.

L.

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..
L. wrote:
snip

Now you have some idea of why most of that reagion wants to kill all
of us. For over a generation "Made in USA" was on the bombs that
killed them and the planes that dropped.
The ones who *DON'T THINK* react just as you do.


Sorry dude, MY line of thinking - DIDN"T INVITE THOSE COCK SUCKERS
HERE TO KILL. "I" had nothing against them until they pulled this
**** off. AND for that - I will NEVER forgive them. They all deserve
to die. Even their brand of religion is "flawed".

And the women and children who have died every day from bombs, bullets and
starvation since the first gulf war had nothing to do with 9/11.
In fact there probably were no people from Iraq on the planes and *you*
buy some of your gas from the country with the most people represented
Saudi, Arabia.

I doubt you know enought about your religion to call Islam flawed.


I guess you're one of those who would open the gates to allow them
all to move in and the Mexicans too - huh?

"I had nothing against them" is similar to BillCosby's "I have nothing
against them" in his classic monolog on bigotry.
I suppose you feel that way against the German's, Japanese, British,
Native American's and others who have killed far more Americans than were
killed in 9/11.

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand of
American arms.


L.



YOU do not know me. I don't know YOU either - so do NOT suppose you can tell
me how I can think or feel. I do NOT have anything against ANY people. It is
not "me" who is declaring the wars - but since they found it in their liking
to come here and kill - then they shall be killed. And I'm not suggesting
the women or children - but the murderous pricks who did it or want to
perpetuate it. WHO are YOU to offer an excuse? They'd slit your throat in a
heart beat. They don't give a **** about you either. OR is it you're one of
them?

Yes, their religion IS flawed. They want to die to receive 70 virgins and so
on? What the hell's with that? They don't even use the women here - they
keep them covered up. And as for "Virgins" - don't those dumb *******s know
that once used - they're no longer virgins? On the other hand - who's
suggesting they're virgin "women". They suck each other off enough - could
be men, goats, donkeys, camels, etc.

There is NOTHING you're going to tell me to want to forgive that yellow
bellied low life prick and all his cock sucking buddies. Again, much as I
don't like Bush, at least he goes out in public - not hiding in caves. OBL
is a Yellow Bellied ASS HOLE. Were it not for his money - he'd be just
another piece of ****.

Forget the Bible versuses dude - they do me no good. Christ isn't here - nor
is God - to stop this craziness - nor will they be. They've been coming to
earth for "centuries" - they've not arrived yet. Furthermore - it is said
that Christ himself will rise against the anti Christ - so that makes him
too - a "warrior". So don't portray me as evil when the Prince of Peace is
to do the same thing. Peace - that is such a joke. There hasn't been peace
on this earth since Cain and Abel - and never will be! Yeah, it would be
nice if one day soon - someone could say - "OK - all people - put down your
weapons - there is peace on earth from today on" and it "happens". NEVER
..... that is such wishful thinking. Any smart religious person knows we'll
not see Peace any time soon. As many churches as there are, bibles, korans,
etc - supposedly teaching Peace and Love - for all these centuries - did ya
ever take notice - it isn't happening? It just doesn't work that way. I
don't care how many cops, preachers, priests, nuns, etc - you have - there
will be NO peace. The **** is worse now than ever. Some may say the end of
the world - so be it. But when each of us die, it's always the "end of the
world" that dying person's world - so who's to say it is "THE" end of
"EARTH"? Where "all" mankind dies at once or there abouts. Where ALL things
cease to exist - including troubles? The only way this world will end is
when our resources run out, the sun goes black, we nuke each other to death
so the clouds do suffocate the earth from all living conditions.

See, this is where YOU TOO are flawed - They want US to practice THEIR
religion - or else. THEY HATE CHRISTIANS, JEWS and I can't recall the last
one. SO - they've included ALL but themselves. How convenient. And they're
"peaceful"? PEACEFUL - MY ASS. Christians are also out there pounding the
pavement to shove religion down people's throats. So, it could be deemed yet
another "religious" war. You bible carriers always switch to a bible when
things don't go your way. Those versuses from days gone by aren't going to
save your ass should they come knocking.

L.