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N9NEO wrote: DUH! You have to do full-wave rectification if you are going to use a avaraging type of filter. Think about it. The precision half-wave circuit that responds to peak should work well also. I'll probably stick em both on the board. 73 NEO Rob K2CU design goal limited the loading on the diodes. D800 goes to the non inverting, very hi z, D801 goes to the non inverting input of U6A and the gain is 1 so the non inverted, now low Z, output goes to the inverting input of U6A where the 18K resistor might give too much loading. I built a simple, U6A less, version but it had fairly high distortion. It sounded much worse then a single diode detector. In my wife's R2000 I went with a 0.001uF for the output filter cap. For most SW/HF signals the tansmitted BW will be 5KHz. To tell the truth the change from 0.0033 to 0.001 didn't make much audiable difference. I didn't bother to make any tests. For 455KHz IFs U6A/B will need to be changed. The LMC660 is just not up to that higher freq. They do work fine at 50KHz. The other improved AM detector with a single OpAmp works, but diodes must be very closely matched. A simple DVD diode Vforward will not suffice! Petes AD607 synch detector has to be the simplest way to get going. There are other approaches that might fare better. The SAD in the R8B is much better then the AD607 or the AO7030+. Better as in will never growl, and doesn't fo nuts with a strong adjacent signal. The AD607 OpAmp fitler I/Q combiner page that I refferenced is well worth the study. If done correctly, it is possible to exclude or reject everything except for the desired signal. The Synch detector group has some very interesting PDFs from older approaches that go into the mind numbing math. I never got the filter to work properly. There are no obvious typos, and the design looks sound. When I run out of other projects I intend to revisit this one because IF it can be made to work, the rejection would be very useful. My psuedo/quasi/faux "MAP"/SE-3 had several detectors. For reasons that escape me I decided to add FM with a crystal discriminator. Works great the 3 times I used it. Twice for 10M FM, and once for a Pirate on 6.925. The least usefull part of my oatboard detector. Terry |
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forming precision detector brewing group
I might have to put hi perf detector project on the back burner for a
few weeks. Seems as though I've been called up by my next employer for a 90 day contract job. I think he wants to make sure that I'm somewhat sane before he takes me on full time. I can't really blame him - after all I do subscribe to rec.radio.shortwave. I really didn't want to go back to work till like March or April. I left my last job designing large inverters back in October. The place was a real pressure cooker and I needed some time off to figure out what is real and what is just a product of my own paranoia. Ya know, time for the voices in my head to subside. But feeling good enoughtnow and I don't have to report till January 7 I think. It's a dream job working for a govt contractor so lots of really cool test gear around. I'm thinking about goin over to the wrecking yard and picking up a 50 dollar car and heading south to Key Largo to do some snorklin for a few days. Maybe I'll take the plates off the car when I leave and set it afire on the beach and just stick out the thumb. Maybe stop by Cuhulin's place on the way down with a box of dog biscuits and a six pack of Old Milwaukee. 73 NEO wrote: N9NEO wrote: DUH! You have to do full-wave rectification if you are going to use a avaraging type of filter. Think about it. The precision half-wave circuit that responds to peak should work well also. I'll probably stick em both on the board. 73 NEO Rob K2CU design goal limited the loading on the diodes. D800 goes to the non inverting, very hi z, D801 goes to the non inverting input of U6A and the gain is 1 so the non inverted, now low Z, output goes to the inverting input of U6A where the 18K resistor might give too much loading. I built a simple, U6A less, version but it had fairly high distortion. It sounded much worse then a single diode detector. In my wife's R2000 I went with a 0.001uF for the output filter cap. For most SW/HF signals the tansmitted BW will be 5KHz. To tell the truth the change from 0.0033 to 0.001 didn't make much audiable difference. I didn't bother to make any tests. For 455KHz IFs U6A/B will need to be changed. The LMC660 is just not up to that higher freq. They do work fine at 50KHz. The other improved AM detector with a single OpAmp works, but diodes must be very closely matched. A simple DVD diode Vforward will not suffice! Petes AD607 synch detector has to be the simplest way to get going. There are other approaches that might fare better. The SAD in the R8B is much better then the AD607 or the AO7030+. Better as in will never growl, and doesn't fo nuts with a strong adjacent signal. The AD607 OpAmp fitler I/Q combiner page that I refferenced is well worth the study. If done correctly, it is possible to exclude or reject everything except for the desired signal. The Synch detector group has some very interesting PDFs from older approaches that go into the mind numbing math. I never got the filter to work properly. There are no obvious typos, and the design looks sound. When I run out of other projects I intend to revisit this one because IF it can be made to work, the rejection would be very useful. My psuedo/quasi/faux "MAP"/SE-3 had several detectors. For reasons that escape me I decided to add FM with a crystal discriminator. Works great the 3 times I used it. Twice for 10M FM, and once for a Pirate on 6.925. The least usefull part of my oatboard detector. Terry |
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