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On Mar 31, 12:39?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On 31 Mar 2007 04:38:54 -0700, wrote:


"What they are not telling you about HD Radio"


http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...ad/thread/4699...
b125922d?hl=en&


Oh great - the HD Radio Alliance can track what is listened to - need
to get this one to the press ASAP !


Sounds like a paranoid fantasy. How is the information going to get
back home? Via the power lines if the HD radio is plugged in? Via the
FCC part 15 "transmitter" associated with all powered receivers? That
seems impractical


The Brits used to send around vans to detect TV receivers in the
possession of people without a TV receiving license.


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Read the links - really doesn't matter if true, once word gets around,
and I'll help make sure, consumers will stay away from HD Radio even
more.

Of course, this whole concept being a lie, you realize you set yourself up
for significant legal action for propagating it?

The real issue is why, knowing it is not true, you would knowingly spread a
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Who's spreading lies ? He's telling the truth, and you are the one
trying to sell everyone this IBOC crap !

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On 31 Mar 2007 11:02:47 -0700, "ve3..." wrote:


In WWII Nazi submarines used TRF receivers as the oscillator in a
superhet put out enough signal that air and naval sub chasers could
home in on the signal and deep-six them.


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On 31 Mar 2007 11:02:47 -0700, "ve3..." wrote:


In WWII Nazi submarines used TRF receivers as the oscillator in a
superhet put out enough signal that air and naval sub chasers could
home in on the signal and deep-six them.


In fact, there is a ratings service, called MobilTrak which installs
antennas on utility poles where cars go by, and can tell what FM station is
being listened to based on the IF offset, but it does not work on AM.

http://www.mobiltrak.com/ has an explanation of the technology.

Mostly, this is used by retail business to see what station is listened to
at point of purchase (POP) for ad effectiveness studies. It is of limited
value in quantifying audience, as 2/3 of radio listening is not in the car.


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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:41:13 GMT, David wrote:

On 31 Mar 2007 11:02:47 -0700, "ve3..." wrote:


In WWII Nazi submarines used TRF receivers as the oscillator in a
superhet put out enough signal that air and naval sub chasers could
home in on the signal and deep-six them.


?

I get it. You forgot a comma.
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On Mar 30, 11:28 pm, Tester wrote:
On 31 Mar 2007 04:38:54 -0700, wrote:

"What they are not telling you about HD Radio"


http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...ad/thread/4699... b125922d?hl=en&


Oh great - the HD Radio Alliance can track what is listened to - need
to get this one to the press ASAP !


Sounds like a paranoid fantasy. How is the information going to get
back home? Via the power lines if the HD radio is plugged in? Via the
FCC part 15 "transmitter" associated with all powered receivers? That
seems impractical

The Brits used to send around vans to detect TV receivers in the
possession of people without a TV receiving license.

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On 31 Mar 2007 16:29:00 -0700, "RHF"
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On Mar 31, 4:38 am, wrote:
"What they are not telling you about HD Radio"

http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...ad/thread/4699...

Oh great - the HD Radio Alliance can track what is listened to - need
to get this one to the press ASAP !


NSA Reject - So you have 'no problem'
with being Tracked Over the Internet . . .
-or- What Your Celfone Tells Us About You !

NSA Reject -Since your last Dental Visit
-we- Track You and Record Everything That You Say
and That Is Being Said Around You
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"What they are not telling you about HD Radio"

http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...125922d?hl=en&

Oh great - the HD Radio Alliance can track what is listened to - need
to get this one to the press ASAP !

Does anyone else thing Bull****........
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On Mar 31, 12:36?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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"What they are not telling you about HD Radio"


http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...ad/thread/4699...


Oh great - the HD Radio Alliance can track what is listened to - need
to get this one to the press ASAP !


Yeah, right. An HD radio has no transmit capabilities, and you know it.


Too late, Eduardo - I know someone else, who is taking this to the
press. All we need, are seeds of doubt. Nice try, trying to get me
kicked off radioinfo, but it didn't work - interesting that all of you
over-reacted to this story. Afraid that it might kill HD Radio ? Since
you all reacted so strongly, this must be a true story.

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On Mar 31, 12:39?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 31, 5:28?am, Tester wrote:





On 31 Mar 2007 04:38:54 -0700, wrote:


"What they are not telling you about HD Radio"


http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...ad/thread/4699...
b125922d?hl=en&


Oh great - the HD Radio Alliance can track what is listened to - need
to get this one to the press ASAP !


Sounds like a paranoid fantasy. How is the information going to get
back home? Via the power lines if the HD radio is plugged in? Via the
FCC part 15 "transmitter" associated with all powered receivers? That
seems impractical


The Brits used to send around vans to detect TV receivers in the
possession of people without a TV receiving license.


--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


Read the links - really doesn't matter if true, once word gets around,
and I'll help make sure, consumers will stay away from HD Radio even
more.

Of course, this whole concept being a lie, you realize you set yourself up
for significant legal action for propagating it?

The real issue is why, knowing it is not true, you would knowingly spread a
lie. Says a lot about you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You have no proof that this story is a lie

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You have no proof that this story is a lie


There are simple ways to tell a receiver is radiating. The HD receivers do
not radiate.


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