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Default Last Call for Sony AN-LP1?

Discontinued.
Universal Radio sold out.

But lately Ebay seller named buyfromjapan is shipping them to USA in
less than a week, $89 + 15 shipping. If you click his 100% feedback,
then you will see all the happy loop buyers' praise!

e.g. http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-AN-LP1-Port...QQcmdZViewItem

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On May 25, 3:05 am, wrote:
Discontinued.
Universal Radio sold out.

But lately Ebay seller named buyfromjapan is shipping them to USA in
less than a week, $89 + 15 shipping. If you click his 100% feedback,
then you will see all the happy loop buyers' praise!

e.g.http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-AN-LP1-Port..._W0QQitemZ1301...


It's very good.

If you don't have one; check it out . ..

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On May 25, 3:48 am, wrote:
On May 25, 3:05 am, wrote:

Discontinued.
Universal Radio sold out.


But lately Ebay seller named buyfromjapan is shipping them to USA in
less than a week, $89 + 15 shipping. If you click his 100% feedback,
then you will see all the happy loop buyers' praise!


e.g.http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-AN-LP1-Port..._W0QQitemZ1301...


It's very good.

If you don't have one; check it out . ..


Wasa Up !

For Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) the Sony AN-LP1
Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna works very well with
the Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio as
a "Travel Kit" for the Hotel Room, RV'ing or Camping
when you are On-the-Road :
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Default Sony AN-LP1 Shortwave Active Loop Antenna -vice- Sony AN-1 LW+MW+SW Active Whip Antenna

On May 25, 9:58 pm, wrote:
Thanks, all.

I decided to go ahead and got a Sony Loop AN LP1 from buyfromjapan.
Seems like some of you are recommending Sony ICF7600GR as a good
matching portable, I don't have a small SW rig as of yet.

My favorite rig is a six tube 25 pound G500 -=Trans-Oceanic=-
suitcase. Which is theoretically portable as it runs on AA and D dry
cells and has its humongous WaveRod whip for an indoor antenna. But
imagine trying to keep it from being dinged up while carried on a
crowded city bus! I don't believe the old Zenith adds 'its a boon when
traveling'.

Anybody think a Grundig G5 is as good/better/not as good portable as
Sony ICF7600GR? The G5 has lots of alpha memory slots!


While I've heard that the G5 is a good radio, I've not used it
firsthand. I do have the '7600G and '7600GR, however. For its class,
this is a highly distinguished and capable series of radios, and I
would recommend the '7600GR wholeheartedly. The synchronous detection
circuitry of the '7600GR really provides a distinct performance edge
over many other portables in this price range. Synchronous detection
can often prove invaluable in the rejection of adjacent channel
interference in crowded bands.

You'll likely find satisfaction with either the G5 or the '7600GR.
Overall, though, I'd recommend the '7600GR over the G5.

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Default Sony AN-LP1 Shortwave Active Loop Antenna -vice- Sony AN-1 LW+MW+SW Active Whip Antenna

On May 25, 8:58 pm, "download.com" wrote:
Hmmm, yeah, the AN-1 is a less than inspiring performer. Never have
gotten much use out of mine.


I love my AN-1. I have used it for years, on my motor home, trailer that was
parked, and I have it up here in the Philippines and it has worked great for
me and my Grundigs (Sat 650,800 & YB400).

Burr


Well, glad that it's workin' well for you. I'm sure there can be
instances where the AN-1 might come in useful; that's why I've held on
to mine. In my listening, though, I've found that the AN-1's gain is
a bit lacking. In a parked RV (when there's no time to string up a
wire antenna), I've generally found better options. Rigging up
something from various bits and pieces can also provide desirable
results: compared to the AN-1, I can get far more kick by rigging up
something like an MFJ-1956 12-foot whip on 3/8" x 24 magnet mount fed
into an MFJ-1045C amplified preselector. Works fine with the
portables, too, since you can reduce (or turn off) the gain on the
'1045C as necessary to prevent overloading.

http://www.mfjenterprises.com/produc...rodid=MFJ-1956
http://www.new-tronics.com/main/html...es_page_3.html
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/produc...odid=MFJ-1045C

The H-800 is a nice option, as well, if one isn't in for the constant
tuning of a preselector. While RVing, there are various options for a
getting a bit of height to the antenna when you're in a temporary
location. I've used the TS-88B tripod in conjunction with a telepole
from the Mast Company.

http://www.ultimatesupport.com/s.nl/...=8&category=28
http://www.tmastco.com/TelepolePage.htm

After removing the upper adjustment clamp on the TS-88B, the bottom
segment of the 32 foot telepole can be fitted over the TS-88B. The
telepole can thereby sit extended upon the TS-88B, with the tripod
providing the required support for the pole. I've utilized this
configuration a number of times with pleasing results. When using this
set up with the H-800, I clamp the H-800 to the telepole on either the
third or fourth to highest segment (forget exactly which) using the
adjustable clamp provided with the H-800. Once an unexpected storm
came on at night, but this set up weathered it well, and even in the
winds that followed the storms departure, there was no toppling over
or any other unfortunate event, despite the fact that the arrangement
was not supported by any guy wires. I believe the antenna was about 25
feet or so up from the ground using this arrangement.

I've also used this tripod + telepole configuration to support light
wire antennas, like the Par EF-SWL. Again, with RV-listening, the
antenna can, for the sake of convenience, simply be put up by hooking
the Par transformer to a magnet mount atop the vehicle. This would
require an adapter or two: when I set up in this way, I use a 3/8"x24
male to SO-239 and a male-male PL-259 connector. The tripod-telepole
then provide height to the antenna from the outer end.

In any case, just some antenna stuff to throw out there for everyone.
I play around with these things from time to time, and although I'm
certainly no expert on antenna theory and that sort of thing, I
generally end up with something rigged up that can pull in some
interesting and unexpected stuff.

Best of listening to you out there, Burr.

Junius



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Default Last Call for Sony AN-LP1?

In article ,
says...
BDK wrote :
In article om, rhf-
says...
On May 25, 3:48 am, wrote:
On May 25, 3:05 am, wrote:

Discontinued.
Universal Radio sold out.
But lately Ebay seller named buyfromjapan is shipping them to USA in
less than a week, $89 + 15 shipping. If you click his 100% feedback,
then you will see all the happy loop buyers' praise!
e.g.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-AN-LP1-Port..._W0QQitemZ1301...
It's very good.

If you don't have one; check it out . ..
Wasa Up !

For Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) the Sony AN-LP1
Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna works very well with
the Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio as
a "Travel Kit" for the Hotel Room, RV'ing or Camping
when you are On-the-Road :
.
Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html
.
Sony AN-LP1 Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3676.html

imho - both are worth the money
and together they are great ~ RHF
.
.
. .



I've had two of them, one died, the other one I sold. I thought the
first one had a problem, so I stupidly bought another one. It wasn't any
better.

Not much good except as a noise magnet, [...]




I don't totaly agree with you about this... OK, a good external antenna
will (can) be much better than the ANLP1. BUT, as a traveling antenna it
is a fair buy ! You cannot always strung an external wire in an hotel ;-).

At home I'm using an external wire antenna with both a Sangean 909 and a
Sony SW100 (no tabletop...). This antenna usualy gives better results
than the AN-LP1... but sometime I uses the Sony antenna to get read of
the noise. It really depends on your local conditions.

My 2 cents...

Charly


I guess my real point was any antenna of any size will be better than an
active one, at least the 3 or so I have had over the years. I know
someone who lives in a condo, and they have 2 outside antennas that are
nearly invisible. They have to be replaced every two years or so, but it
takes 15 minutes to do it. A neighbor allows him to put the other end of
some very thin wires to his chimney, and the condo assoc. never saw them
until last year. They actually were sane and said they didn't care!

Before those outside antennas were put up, he used a hunk of wire out on
his porch, and some active antenna, can't remember what the brand was,
that he bought in the UK on vacation about 15 years ago.

BDK
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In article .com, rhf-
says...
On May 25, 11:36 am, BDK wrote:
In article om, rhf-
says...





On May 25, 3:48 am, wrote:
On May 25, 3:05 am, wrote:


Discontinued.
Universal Radio sold out.


But lately Ebay seller named buyfromjapan is shipping them to USA in
less than a week, $89 + 15 shipping. If you click his 100% feedback,
then you will see all the happy loop buyers' praise!


e.g.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-AN-LP1-Port..._W0QQitemZ1301...

It's very good.


If you don't have one; check it out . ..


Wasa Up !


For Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) the Sony AN-LP1
Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna works very well with
the Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio as
a "Travel Kit" for the Hotel Room, RV'ing or Camping
when you are On-the-Road :
.
Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html
.
Sony AN-LP1 Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3676.html


imho - both are worth the money
and together they are great ~ RHF
.
.
. .


I've had two of them, one died, the other one I sold. I thought the
first one had a problem, so I stupidly bought another one. It wasn't any
better.

Not much good except as a noise magnet, picked up every light switch,
dimmer, transformer, furnace igniter and A/C compressor relay on the
block. The neighbor's furnace igniter made all kinds of racket on the
AN-LP1, but was barely audible on any of my other antennas. The other
neighbor's family room and kitchen lights made a huge SNAP as they were
turned on and off(They were right below the LP1). The slinky dipole,
that blew the Sony out of the water, in both lack of noise, and with
much better signal strength just heard a moderate "click". That slinky
was the best antenna I ever had, I hope the new one is half as good.
from 14MHZ on down, it was amazingly good, it was much better than my
Alpha Delta Sloper.

I used the AN-LP1 as a backup antenna at first, and later on, as an
antenna for one of my 5 SW desktops I had at the time. Out of a Slinky
dipole, a sloping Windom Dipole, both outside and high up in the air, a
dipole in my attic about 10' off the ground, and a CB antenna with the
shield pulled off at the receiver,


- the AN-LP1 at 40', was a distant fifth place.

I'm back to 5 desktop receivers, and I'm not messing with
another active antenna this time. Especially for 105 bucks. That will
buy a LOT of coax and wire for making my own antennas. I bought a metal
CB antenna for the higher freqs. A CB antenna is very useful for Utes
above 15MHZ or so. With the shield pulled, it's not bad anywhere.

BDK- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


BDK - Please Clarify ~ RHF
.
-?- Are you talking (writting) about the "Indoor"
Sony AN-LP1 Active {Shortwave Only} Loop Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3676.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130116236247
* Which uses a small 19" Cloth covered Loop Element
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...t/3676clos.jpg
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...nt/3676win.jpg
.
-?- Or the Sony AN-1 "Outdoor" Active Whip Antenna
which covers the LW + AM/MW and Shortwave Bands
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2206.html
* Which uses a 59" Telescopic Whip Antenna Element
and Remote Head Unit plus Coax Cable and Desk-Top
Control Unit.
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Sony_AN_1_Radio_aerial__5596943
http://cgi.ebay.it/_W0QQitemZ180118186306
.
.
. .




I was talking about the outside one, sorry.

BDK
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Thanks, yes I am starting to think you are correct in that synchronous
detection is probably more important than labled memories. The little
Sony is probably the best match.

I do wish the cable on the AN-LP1 was a bit longer than 12 feet,
because its probably not possible to lengthen it without messing up
some operating parameter of the antenna.

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In article .com, rhf-
says...
On May 25, 8:24 pm, BDK wrote:
In article .com, rhf-
says...





On May 25, 11:36 am, BDK wrote:
In article om, rhf-
says...


On May 25, 3:48 am, wrote:
On May 25, 3:05 am, wrote:


Discontinued.
Universal Radio sold out.


But lately Ebay seller named buyfromjapan is shipping them to USA in
less than a week, $89 + 15 shipping. If you click his 100% feedback,
then you will see all the happy loop buyers' praise!


e.g.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-AN-LP1-Port..._W0QQitemZ1301...

It's very good.


If you don't have one; check it out . ..


Wasa Up !


For Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) the Sony AN-LP1
Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna works very well with
the Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio as
a "Travel Kit" for the Hotel Room, RV'ing or Camping
when you are On-the-Road :
.
Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html
.
Sony AN-LP1 Active {Shortwave Only} Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3676.html


imho - both are worth the money
and together they are great ~ RHF
.
.
. .


I've had two of them, one died, the other one I sold. I thought the
first one had a problem, so I stupidly bought another one. It wasn't any
better.


Not much good except as a noise magnet, picked up every light switch,
dimmer, transformer, furnace igniter and A/C compressor relay on the
block. The neighbor's furnace igniter made all kinds of racket on the
AN-LP1, but was barely audible on any of my other antennas. The other
neighbor's family room and kitchen lights made a huge SNAP as they were
turned on and off(They were right below the LP1). The slinky dipole,
that blew the Sony out of the water, in both lack of noise, and with
much better signal strength just heard a moderate "click". That slinky
was the best antenna I ever had, I hope the new one is half as good.
from 14MHZ on down, it was amazingly good, it was much better than my
Alpha Delta Sloper.


I used the AN-LP1 as a backup antenna at first, and later on, as an
antenna for one of my 5 SW desktops I had at the time. Out of a Slinky
dipole, a sloping Windom Dipole, both outside and high up in the air, a
dipole in my attic about 10' off the ground, and a CB antenna with the
shield pulled off at the receiver,


- the AN-LP1 at 40', was a distant fifth place.


I'm back to 5 desktop receivers, and I'm not messing with
another active antenna this time. Especially for 105 bucks. That will
buy a LOT of coax and wire for making my own antennas. I bought a metal
CB antenna for the higher freqs. A CB antenna is very useful for Utes
above 15MHZ or so. With the shield pulled, it's not bad anywhere.


BDK- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


BDK - Please Clarify ~ RHF
.
-?- Are you talking (writting) about the "Indoor"
Sony AN-LP1 Active {Shortwave Only} Loop Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3676.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130116236247
* Which uses a small 19" Cloth covered Loop Element
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...t/3676clos.jpg
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...nt/3676win.jpg
.
-?- Or the Sony AN-1 "Outdoor" Active Whip Antenna
which covers the LW + AM/MW and Shortwave Bands
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2206.html
* Which uses a 59" Telescopic Whip Antenna Element
and Remote Head Unit plus Coax Cable and Desk-Top
Control Unit.
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Sony_AN_1_Radio_aerial__5596943
http://cgi.ebay.it/_W0QQitemZ180118186306
.
.
. .


I was talking about the outside one, sorry.

BDK- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


BDK - That was the impression that I got
when you wrote " the AN-LP1 at 40' " ~ RHF

Using a 102" CB Whip Antenna with the
Sony AN-1 instead of the 59" Telescopic
Whip Antenna can improve it some what.

Better is using a Pair of Diamond Loops made
of Wire that are 24" on the Side. The Diamonds
are set perpendicular to each other in an "X".
All the Wire Ends come together at the Whip
Mounting Stud. Wood or Plastic is used as
the Cross-Arms (24") of trhe Loops. And the
Loops are suspended from the Top-Apex with
the AN-1's Head Unit hanging at the bottom.
The two same size Diamond Loops can be
scaled down or scaled up by simply keeping
the Sides and the Cross-Arms the same length :
12" Sides by 12" Cross-Arms = 21" High Diamond
18" Sides by 18" Cross-Arms = 31" High Diamond
24" Sides by 24" Cross-Arms = 42" High Diamond
30" Sides by 30" Cross-Arms = 52" High Diamond
36" Sides by 36" Cross-Arms = 63" High Diamond
Some use a bare solid Aluminum Ground Wire for
the smaller Diamonds; and others use Insulated
Stranded Hoop-Up Wire for the Larger Diamonds.

IMAGE - Look at the Top of the RF Systems DX-One
Professional Mk II Omni-Directional Active Vertical
Receiving Antenna for an Idea what the 'shape' of the
Two Diamond Loops looks like.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/1246.html

FWIW - There are Theories about "The Why" of
using the Two "X"ed Diamond Loop Elements
-vice- The Single Vertical Whip Element
-but- These Theories are beyond me.
And- The Reason for the use of a Whip Element is
that it is simple, practical, durable and best value.

as always more than you wanted to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .



It was the noise it picked up, the signal strength wasn't bad, just the
snapping, popping, and buzzing. I actually stuck a hunk of wire on it
after the whip disappeared and it made little difference. I wish I had
the ambition to build a TFD antenna, a friend had one for several years,
and it was great, very quiet, and in the winter, was almost spooky with
the lack of background noise. Amazingly weak SSB and RTTY signals could
be copied 100% on it. The one B&W or whoever it is that makes one is
just too expensive and needs some upgrading to last.

BDK
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