"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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That sounds like the one I bought. It goes with me everywhere. And I
rarely have a signal outage....except for under bridges in rural areas.

Everywhere I go, I can listen to what I enjoy via satellite.



Glendale, CA, in hilly area... no signal at all.. La Quinta, CA to Palm
Desert (my bicycle route) spotty signal, dropouts at least twice in any 5
minute time in motion. Prescott, AZ, no signal at all in area I live.
Waste of $300-.

Really. I"m not familiar with Ca reception, but I have a colleague in
Prescott who listens to the same XM channels I do, on the same radio, a
first generation MyFi.

Don't bother him with facts. Only 50,000 watt stations can be heard within a
10mV/m contour. The rest may as well shut down and let the big boys splatter
the band with their noisy IBOC subcarriers. Corporate media will only be
happy when they have complete and total control over everything we see, hear
and think. They already tell us what kind of music and entertainment we
like, and what we will use to access it.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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The minimum contour for FM stations to get significant listening is
the 64 dbu, roughly 1.5 mv/m.

You guys throw a lot of listnership away if you're requiring 1.5mV/m..
since even cheap POS radios have FM sensitivity down in the low hundreds
of microvolts, and good ones (home and car stereos) are good down to 5-15
microvolts.. you're almost a full order of magnitude higher than the
average car stereo... (order of magnitude = 1x10E3)

We are talking exclusively of home and workplace reception, as there is no
way to track the ZIP of in-car listening. Since in home and at work account
for 70% of all listening, this is more than adequate for study.

Listeners, not stations, make the decision of what stations they will listen
to. And listeners do not listen to signals weaker than 64 dbu in 96% to 97%
of the time spent listening to radio. In other words, if the signal is not
above a certain strength, listeners.... whether in Miami, LA, McAllen or New
York, to name a few... do not use them.

Stations are not "throwing away a lot of listenership" because listeners do
not like weak signals and won't listen to them.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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That sounds like the one I bought. It goes with me everywhere. And I
rarely have a signal outage....except for under bridges in rural areas.

Everywhere I go, I can listen to what I enjoy via satellite.


Glendale, CA, in hilly area... no signal at all.. La Quinta, CA to Palm
Desert (my bicycle route) spotty signal, dropouts at least twice in any 5
minute time in motion. Prescott, AZ, no signal at all in area I live.
Waste of $300-.
Really. I"m not familiar with Ca reception, but I have a colleague in
Prescott who listens to the same XM channels I do, on the same radio, a
first generation MyFi.


I had an XM Eno (it went the way of the dumpster) and in the Hassayampa area
of Prescott, there is no signal anywhere. I am pretty convinced at this
point that the portables need to be near terrestrial repeaters and can't
really see the satellites.



Well, that simply isn't true. Now, they do often need an external
antenna...the built-in can be pretty limited. But if you go into the
menu you can find the antenna aiming page...it will tell you if you're
listening to a repeater or a satellite. I get direct satellite reception
all over the backwater and backwoods locations I travel. And my
colleagues do the same.

I even get reception, indoors, on a MyFi in White Lake, Wisconsin.
Where the nearest repeater is more than 5 hours away.

Sounds like either you got a bad receiver, or you got a bad external
antenna. That does happen. I had a bad portable antenna out of the box.
Once replaced...never a problem. I can mow the lawn listening to Fine
Tuning, without so much as a glitch in the North Woods of Wisconsin.

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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I had an XM Eno (it went the way of the dumpster) and in the Hassayampa
area of Prescott, there is no signal anywhere. I am pretty convinced at
this point that the portables need to be near terrestrial repeaters and
can't really see the satellites.

Well, that simply isn't true. Now, they do often need an external
antenna...the built-in can be pretty limited. But if you go into the menu
you can find the antenna aiming page...it will tell you if you're
listening to a repeater or a satellite. I get direct satellite reception
all over the backwater and backwoods locations I travel. And my colleagues
do the same.

The Eno is market to be worn on a wristband, and is positioned as not
needing an antena. I tried an antena that had a wire up the sleve and
clipped to my helmet, and it helped only slightly... the listening was
frequenly plagued by dropouts.

I even get reception, indoors, on a MyFi in White Lake, Wisconsin. Where
the nearest repeater is more than 5 hours away.

In LA, away from mountains, it worked. Of course, this is where there are
several dozen terrestrial repeaters.

Sounds like either you got a bad receiver, or you got a bad external
antenna. That does happen. I had a bad portable antenna out of the box.
Once replaced...never a problem. I can mow the lawn listening to Fine
Tuning, without so much as a glitch in the North Woods of Wisconsin.

Considering the radio is sold as a wrist or belt strap one, for jogging,
biking or such, not much of an exterior antenna is possible... the radio is
the size of an iPod.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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I had an XM Eno (it went the way of the dumpster) and in the Hassayampa
area of Prescott, there is no signal anywhere. I am pretty convinced at
this point that the portables need to be near terrestrial repeaters and
can't really see the satellites.
Well, that simply isn't true. Now, they do often need an external
antenna...the built-in can be pretty limited. But if you go into the menu
you can find the antenna aiming page...it will tell you if you're
listening to a repeater or a satellite. I get direct satellite reception
all over the backwater and backwoods locations I travel. And my colleagues
do the same.

The Eno is market to be worn on a wristband, and is positioned as not
needing an antena. I tried an antena that had a wire up the sleve and
clipped to my helmet, and it helped only slightly... the listening was
frequenly plagued by dropouts.
I even get reception, indoors, on a MyFi in White Lake, Wisconsin. Where
the nearest repeater is more than 5 hours away.

In LA, away from mountains, it worked. Of course, this is where there are
several dozen terrestrial repeaters.
Sounds like either you got a bad receiver, or you got a bad external
antenna. That does happen. I had a bad portable antenna out of the box.
Once replaced...never a problem. I can mow the lawn listening to Fine
Tuning, without so much as a glitch in the North Woods of Wisconsin.

Considering the radio is sold as a wrist or belt strap one, for jogging,
biking or such, not much of an exterior antenna is possible... the radio is
the size of an iPod.



I'd verify performance with another radio. Sounds like you have a dud.

"Brenda Ann" wrote:


You know what it would take to make terrestrial commercial radio extinct?
If XM and Sirius both had a non-pay basic tier that was commercially funded,
that would pretty much do it. Nearly universal coverage, and now they have
walkman-sized personal portables.



That would require 'em to think in terms of long-term gain over
short-term profitability. For that reason, I can't see it happening.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Steve wrote:


Yes but when you're part of an entire industry in decline, it's going
to catch up with you sooner or later. Maybe you should post your
resume on hotjobs or something.

The sad fact is that by the time the whole thing comes crashing down,
he will have retired with his pot of money and no one outside the
industry will know his name. It's the "I've Got Mine" syndrome.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

On Sep 4, 12:52 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...





David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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That sounds like the one I bought. It goes with me everywhere. And I
rarely have a signal outage....except for under bridges in rural areas.

Everywhere I go, I can listen to what I enjoy via satellite.

Glendale, CA, in hilly area... no signal at all.. La Quinta, CA to Palm
Desert (my bicycle route) spotty signal, dropouts at least twice in any 5
minute time in motion. Prescott, AZ, no signal at all in area I live.
Waste of $300-.

Really. I"m not familiar with Ca reception, but I have a colleague in
Prescott who listens to the same XM channels I do, on the same radio, a
first generation MyFi.

Don't bother him with facts. Only 50,000 watt stations can be heard within a
10mV/m contour. The rest may as well shut down and let the big boys splatter
the band with their noisy IBOC subcarriers. Corporate media will only be
happy when they have complete and total control over everything we see, hear
and think. They already tell us what kind of music and entertainment we
like, and what we will use to access it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I read on hte Web that the FCC hates broadcast radio and that they may
have let IBOC loose so that it would destroy the broadcast bands, so
that they could auction off the bands off at a later date.

On Sep 4, 1:49 am, Eric F. Richards wrote:
Steve wrote:

Yes but when you're part of an entire industry in decline, it's going
to catch up with you sooner or later. Maybe you should post your
resume on hotjobs or something.

The sad fact is that by the time the whole thing comes crashing down,
he will have retired with his pot of money and no one outside the
industry will know his name. It's the "I've Got Mine" syndrome.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

True - just as with iBiquity, this HD Radio scam will make a few very
rich, then the whole thing will come crashing down, but they will be
gone including that jackal Bobby Struble.

David "Yes, I pose as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Actually, I have the real ratings data and you do not.

Snip

What you have is your overactive imagination not facts.

I am going to keep you busy finding out how wrong you are. Call Owen
Charlebois, at Arbitron, and ask who I am. Owen is President, Operations and
Technology, for Arbitron. He was formerly head of the BBM in Canada.

I've found, when talking to various folks, that when your name is mentioned, it
only elicits howls of laughter.

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