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On Sep 8, 5:43*pm, RHF wrote:

Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers*
* The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal
Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ?

No she doesn't. She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like
any other talk show. If a conservative talk show guy/gal just wants
McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business.

Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? Is that hers?

Anybody can watch or avoid her show. I don't think her program
amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares?
This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided
nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus.

Bruce Jensen

bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote:

Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers*
* The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal
Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ?

No she doesn't. She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like
any other talk show. If a conservative talk show guy/gal just wants
McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business.



Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the
purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she
DOES have a duty and responsibility.



Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? Is that hers?

Yes, actually it is.



Anybody can watch or avoid her show. I don't think her program
amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares?
This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided
nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus.


She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can
swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But
clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her
program as 'news.'

Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which
isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert
McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln.




Bruce Jensen

On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:

-snip-

- - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers?

-*Yes, actually it is.

-*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not
- she can swing an election among female voters is a
- legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can,
- or she would not have defined her program as 'news.'
-
- Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch.
- Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly
- to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election
- of Abraham Lincoln.

Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving
from Obama-Biden to McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift.
http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...5751238&page=1

The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin
while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can !

* Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the
majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewers
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/200...ied-women.html

* Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain
a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH !
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../International

* Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain
the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Real
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...es-924513.html

* Poll shows big shift to McCain among white women
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...SN097920080909

* Barack Obama and the White Women Vote
- Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . .
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...hat-group.html

* Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity
Politics
Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Ass
http://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.co...tity-politics/

On Sep 10, 12:36*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:

-snip-

- - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers?

-*Yes, actually it is.

-*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not
- she can swing an election among female voters is a
- legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can,
- or she would not have defined her program as 'news.'
-
- Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch.
- Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly
- to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election
- of Abraham Lincoln.

Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving
from Obama-Biden to McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift.http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...5751238&page=1

The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin
while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can !

* Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the
majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewershttp://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-white-mar...

* Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain
a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH !http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...10.CAMPAIGNWOM...

* Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain
the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Realhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/women-voters-flock-t...

* Poll shows big shift to McCain among white womenhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN097920080909

* Barack Obama and the White Women Vote
- Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . .http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...09/barack-obam...

* Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity
Politics
Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Asshttp://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-white-wo...
*.

(OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama/Clinton Now !

wrote:
I want to marry Sarah Palin for the weekends.
cuhulin


You do know that she only likes people with some British blood in their
veins.

JB

In article ,
wrote:

I want to marry Sarah Palin for the weekends.
cuhulin

I hear she has a very long honey to do list so you might want to
reconsider.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sep 10, 4:56*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 10, 12:36*pm, RHF wrote:





On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:

-snip-

- - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers?

-*Yes, actually it is.

-*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not
- she can swing an election among female voters is a
- legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can,
- or she would not have defined her program as 'news.'
-
- Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch.
- Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly
- to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election
- of Abraham Lincoln.

Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving
from Obama-Biden to McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift.http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...5751238&page=1

The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin
while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can !

* Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the
majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewershttp://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-white-mar...

* Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain
a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH !http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...10.CAMPAIGNWOM...

* Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain
the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Realhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/women-voters-flock-t...

* Poll shows big shift to McCain among white womenhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN097920080909

* Barack Obama and the White Women Vote
- Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . .http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...09/barack-obam...

* Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity
Politics
Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Asshttp://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-white-wo...
*.

(OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama/Clinton Now !
*.
Hillary Clinton is More Qualified to be Vice President
of the United States - Joe Biden - 10 Sept 2008http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/10/politics/fromtheroad/entry443...
Message : Toss Uncle Joe {Biden} From The Train {Campaign}

Joe Biden is being 'told' to Bow-Out so that Hillary
can 'replace' Him as VP on the Ticket.
* Should Obama Dump Biden Now ? ! ?http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14276
* Dump Bidenhttp://wordpress.com/tag/dump-biden/
* Will Obama Dump Biden Off the Ticket?http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...ent/01125112.g...
* "Dump Biden" Movement Set To Take Offhttp://novatownhall.com/2008/09/04/dump-biden-death-watch-commences/

Bet Your Will Be Seeing Her VPness Hillary Clinton
The Oprah Winfrey Show ASAP !

Joe Biden : Hillary May Have Been Better VP Pickhttp://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/biden-on-hillary-may-have-...

NOTE - This is the same Joe Biden who said publically :
"Barack Obama Is Not Ready To Be President."http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/08/23/obama-biden-ticket-obama-no...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Daily KOS -reports- Obama to Dump Biden for Hillary
http://openthread.dailykos.com/story...466/554/594401

On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote:

Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers*
* The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal
Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ?

No she doesn't. *She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like
any other talk show. *If a *conservative talk show guy/gal just wants
McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business.

* *Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the
purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she
DOES have a duty and responsibility.

I understand why she would do this, but I am very unclear why
declaring herself a NEWS program gives her a duty or responsibility to
her viewers, to give equal time to all opposing viewpoints. There are
plenty of news programs on both sides that are as lopsided as a one-
legged horse. For that matter, there are lots of non-news programs
that do likewise, and I doubt they are in violation of McCain-Feingold
any less than she might be (emphasis on word "might" - the lawsuits
aren't settled yet).

Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers?
* *Yes, actually it is.

Does she say this on her broadcast? If so, that's just silly. I have
no intention of watching her to find out, in any case.

Anybody can watch or avoid her show. *I don't think her program
amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares?
This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided
nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus.

* *She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can
swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But
clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her
program as 'news.'

Whether she thinks she can or not is beside the point. I do not
believe she has a significant amount of influence. She is one voice,
albeit a loud one, out of hundreds, all of whom clamor for whatever
they want you to hear.

* *Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which
isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert
McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln.

You must be referring to Joseph Medill, the predecessor to McCormick
in Chicago - Mr. McCormick the elder was far to young to have much
effect on Mr. Lincoln's election (he was not yet 12 years old at the
first one), and his son Robert was born after Lincoln had been gone 15
years.

Bruce Jensen

bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 9, 5:10 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote:
Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers*
* The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal
Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ?
No she doesn't. She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like
any other talk show. If a conservative talk show guy/gal just wants
McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business.
Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the
purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she
DOES have a duty and responsibility.

I understand why she would do this, but I am very unclear why
declaring herself a NEWS program gives her a duty or responsibility to
her viewers, to give equal time to all opposing viewpoints. There are
plenty of news programs on both sides that are as lopsided as a one-
legged horse. For that matter, there are lots of non-news programs
that do likewise, and I doubt they are in violation of McCain-Feingold
any less than she might be (emphasis on word "might" - the lawsuits
aren't settled yet).


Oprah has made a great issue out of raising her show above the
other chat shows that pander to the more or less prurient interests
of the public. Springer, Maury, to a lesser extent Montel...and the
balance of the banal. Only Oprah has declared herself and her show
to be about the higher plain...a higher standard...and she's someone
who's gone out of her way, over the years, to bash so called news
that has been unfair, unbalanced, or lopsided. Only Oprah has
declared herself to be the arbiter of what is mete, right, and
salutary, and that we should at all times and in all places give
thanks for her bountiful grace.

And then came Obama. Now, in previous campaigns, she's had on
candidates. Both sides. With Obama's declaration for the
Presidency, she's now taken the position that she's not going to use
her program as a platform for any candidate, conveniently pointing
out that Obama was interviewed, more than once, before he officially
declared. And yet, she's endorsed him. On her show, in fact. She
hosted the soiree for him and his campaign, at her home. She's
stumped for him.

But declaring that her show will not under any circumstances
interview Sarah Palin because her program will not be used as a
political venue is disengenuous in the extreme.

Oprah IS the show. Wherever. Whenever. And she's clearly decided
to endorse Obama, eschew Palin, while declaring her show's
neutrality, after offering it to anyone with a candidacy. Nonsense.




Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? Is that hers?
Yes, actually it is.

Does she say this on her broadcast? If so, that's just silly. I have
no intention of watching her to find out, in any case.



She has said it numerous times, yes.



Anybody can watch or avoid her show. I don't think her program
amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares?
This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided
nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus.
She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can
swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But
clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her
program as 'news.'

Whether she thinks she can or not is beside the point. I do not
believe she has a significant amount of influence. She is one voice,
albeit a loud one, out of hundreds, all of whom clamor for whatever
they want you to hear.

Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which
isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert
McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln.

You must be referring to Joseph Medill, the predecessor to McCormick
in Chicago - Mr. McCormick the elder was far to young to have much
effect on Mr. Lincoln's election (he was not yet 12 years old at the
first one), and his son Robert was born after Lincoln had been gone 15
years.


Crossed wires, here...yes, you are correct.


Been writing too many things at once, here.