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Comparing the early days of FM to now, has a nice ring, but the media
landscape has changed dramatically since then.
Within the next 10 years, wireless internet networks like 4G, Wimax,
and wifi will be everyplace and as common as cell phones are today.


Thats great. Radio will use that technology too.

The days of someone else choosing your play

list are dying.

That is if you see the role of radio to only "pick a playlist".

Radio serves a much larger role.


Pray tell, what is that larger role?


Radio, while indeed cutting back, adds the human element. Local
information, local personalities, local commercials on where to buy "back to
school" clothes, local concert information, local weather, traffic, news and
discussion of local issues. local candidates and Election information.

These are all things that one does not get from an Ipod or when burning your
own CD's.

Almost no stations carry any form of local, or even network, news anymore.


This is wrong. Almost ALL station carry some form of local news...even if
it is limited.

As has been said before, radio now is basically a jukebox with
commercials, and someone else is picking the records in the jukebox.


Sorry, that's wrong again.

Worse still, so many stations are just satellites of a single studio that
feeds programming to various stations


Ummmm...where is it you live that this is the only radio you have?

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota?



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Worse still, so many stations are just satellites of a single studio that
feeds programming to various stations


Ummmm...where is it you live that this is the only radio you have?

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota?



Show of hands, please...

Who recognizes these DJ's from your "local" oldies station?

Ron Foster
Larry King
Lou Warren
Dave Michaels


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Worse still, so many stations are just satellites of a single studio
that feeds programming to various stations


Ummmm...where is it you live that this is the only radio you have?

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota?



Show of hands, please...

Who recognizes these DJ's from your "local" oldies station?

Ron Foster
Larry King
Lou Warren
Dave Michaels


Never heard of any of them.

Show of hands...how many people are from Frostbite Falls?

Your idea of radio apparently is shaded by your rural life.




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Radio serves a much larger role.


Pray tell, what is that larger role?


Radio, while indeed cutting back, adds the human element. *Local
information, local personalities,


Uh? cutting back means cutting real live human people from the pay
roll who provide the local content, news and weather.

I think some stations do a great job with news and local content and
still make money.
While many provide just the bare essentials and sound more like
syndicated repeaters of Rush and Sean, while reaping rewards of cheap
content and profits. And radio isn’t grooming it’s next generation of
stars either. It’s killing them off!

You’ll see more traditional talk news properties on Am moving to
Fm

For anyone left in radio today who think, “ ipods don’t provided news
and content”
simply aren’t seeing the big picture! ipods, zunes, cell phones and
everything frigging thing else will come configured to communicate
with 4G networks, Wimax & Wifi. Wireless high speed networks. And some
devices already can! Auto Manufactures will make access to these
networks as standard equipment.

What’s left for radio is local content, & content worth listening too.
Playing the same hits over and over simply won’t due in a world
wireless and plugged into the world wide web.
Plus the next generation, radio’s future gets this stuff! These young
tikes have been raised on a key boards, cell phones and ipods. And
most can’t even tell you what AM Radio is.

Anyone left in radio today can’t think clearly enough to interpret
facts.
They’re carrying too much baggage to be able to accurately do that.
Many executives have been at their current position too long and are
essentially burned-out. This makes their opinions unreliable. That’s
what’s wrong with many radio people. They’ve been drinking the Kool-
Aid for so long that their brains are dead, drowned on the punch!

The NAB is out of touch and serves their own agenda!

The only hope is stations go dark and real operators come in with
fresh new ideas!


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On Oct 2, 9:49 pm, "A Browne" wrote:
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Radio serves a much larger role.


Pray tell, what is that larger role?


Radio, while indeed cutting back, adds the human element. Local
information, local personalities,


Uh? cutting back means cutting real live human people from the pay
roll who provide the local content, news and weather.


Cutting back does not mean "cutting out".

Radio knows that the human element is what distinguishes it from XM,
internet streaming and Ipods.

BTW...speaking of "jukeboxes", have you heard most of the XM/Sirius
channels?

For anyone left in radio today who think, “ ipods don’t provided news

and content” simply aren’t seeing the big picture! ipods, zunes, cell
phones and
everything frigging thing else will come configured to communicate
with 4G networks

And radio will utilize those technologies as well!

Wimax & Wifi. Wireless high speed networks. And some

devices already can! Auto Manufactures will make access to these
networks as standard equipment.

And they'll listen to radio this way too.

What’s left for radio is local content, & content worth listening too.

Playing the same hits over and over simply won’t due in a world
wireless and plugged into the world wide web.

You claim that "local content" is key, and "playing the same songs over and
over again" is killing radio.

Then you proclaim that streaming, Ipods and Zunes, Wifi, and Wimax are the
answers....most of which have NO local content....and play the same songs
ove and over again. (BTW...the Same songs over and over again are OK, as
long as they are the the songs that you like!)

And

most can’t even tell you what AM Radio is.

No one should expect them to know AM...there's nothing for them there. No
one expects 18 year olds to listen to AM.....except for maybe sports or a
ball game.

Anyone left in radio today can’t think clearly enough to interpret

facts.

yes, only little "pcoket-radip" understands all the facts clearly....

The only hope is stations go dark and real operators come in with

fresh new ideas!

When 95% of all citizenry listens to the radio in a given week....they are
not going to go "dark".









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What's left for radio is local content, & content worth listening too.

Playing the same hits over and over simply won't due in a world
wireless and plugged into the world wide web.

You claim that "local content" is key, and "playing the same songs over
and over again" is killing radio.

Then you proclaim that streaming, Ipods and Zunes, Wifi, and Wimax are the
answers....most of which have NO local content....and play the same songs
ove and over again. (BTW...the Same songs over and over again are OK, as
long as they are the the songs that you like!)


iPods and other mp3 players have gigabytes of storage that hold thousands of
tracks. Mine has over 6000 different tracks. My spouse's has over 13,000
different tracks.

The average radio station playlist is less than 400 tracks, many, if not
most, less than 200. I think the "Jack" format has as many as 1000 tracks,
but still plays mostly the same 200 of them. Many internet stations have
huge playlists of many thousands of tracks.


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What's left for radio is local content, & content worth listening too.

Playing the same hits over and over simply won't due in a world
wireless and plugged into the world wide web.

You claim that "local content" is key, and "playing the same songs over
and over again" is killing radio.

Then you proclaim that streaming, Ipods and Zunes, Wifi, and Wimax are
the answers....most of which have NO local content....and play the same
songs ove and over again. (BTW...the Same songs over and over again are
OK, as long as they are the the songs that you like!)


iPods and other mp3 players have gigabytes of storage that hold thousands
of tracks. Mine has over 6000 different tracks. My spouse's has over
13,000 different tracks.

The average radio station playlist is less than 400 tracks, many, if not
most, less than 200. I think the "Jack" format has as many as 1000 tracks,


It's like shirts in a lcoset. Most men have a closet full of shirts....but
have 5 or 6 they really wear all the time.

Radio is BROADcasting. You can have 6,000 songs on your ipod that you like.
Not something you can do when you are trying to attract the most listeners
you can...and keep them listening for the longest you can.

Playing the same songs over and over is fine....as long as they are songs
people like.



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What's left for radio is local content, & content worth listening too.
Playing the same hits over and over simply won't due in a world
wireless and plugged into the world wide web.

You claim that "local content" is key, and "playing the same songs over
and over again" is killing radio.

Then you proclaim that streaming, Ipods and Zunes, Wifi, and Wimax are
the answers....most of which have NO local content....and play the same
songs ove and over again. (BTW...the Same songs over and over again are
OK, as long as they are the the songs that you like!)


iPods and other mp3 players have gigabytes of storage that hold thousands
of tracks. Mine has over 6000 different tracks. My spouse's has over
13,000 different tracks.

The average radio station playlist is less than 400 tracks, many, if not
most, less than 200. I think the "Jack" format has as many as 1000 tracks,


It's like shirts in a lcoset. Most men have a closet full of shirts....but
have 5 or 6 they really wear all the time.

Radio is BROADcasting. You can have 6,000 songs on your ipod that you like.
Not something you can do when you are trying to attract the most listeners
you can...and keep them listening for the longest you can.

Playing the same songs over and over is fine....as long as they are songs
people like.


Except that there's been scientific research that describes how
much people like a song depends on how many times they've heard it.
The enjoyment peaks at about the fifth hearing, and that after about
the fifteenth time, it gets to be irritating.

Mark Zenier
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Playing the same songs over and over is fine....as long as they are songs
people like.


Except that there's been scientific research that describes how
much people like a song depends on how many times they've heard it.
The enjoyment peaks at about the fifth hearing, and that after about
the fifteenth time, it gets to be irritating.


Ummm...please cite me that research. I don't know that to be true.


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