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BDK wrote:

My bad presidents:

1. G.W. Bush nobody comes close, a total embarrassment.
2. Jimmy Carter, worthless.
3. Nixon, a crooked *******.
4. LBJ..Vietnam.

You forgot that #4 also qualifies for a "crooked *******"...big time!




That's true. But I wasn't listing all their problems.
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On Nov 29, 12:52*pm, David Hartung wrote:
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
Then you, sir, are suffering from the ID10T bug. *I lived in Arkansas in the
80's and watching Clinton as the best presdient Chinese money could buy was
like deja-vu all over again. *He screwed Arkansas, but swept things under
the rug so it all fell on the next Governor. *He screwed America, too, but
he swept it all under the rug for Bush to get hit with.

And Obama can't help but be a bad president. *He's a Chicago Democrat.. *Part
of the Machine, one of the most corrupt and dishonest political
organizations in the county. *Not only does he have William Ayres as a
friend but he also has Jesse Jackson Jr and Todd Stroger, both of which are
typical tax-and-spend Dimocrats as friends. *The Dims here in Chicago are
now ruling by primogeneture. *Richard J was replaced by his son Richard M.
John Stroger was replaced by his son. *Emil Jones is trying to replace
himself with his son. *Edward Madigan is trying to replace himself with his
daughter. * *Next thing Obama will start ruling by Divine Right. . .. .

I have been waiting for this to come up.

- Obama is a politician from Chicago. It is rational to believe
- that he has some connection with the Daily machine.

- Is there any evidence to support this belief?

It's A Belief : Take It On Faith ;-} ~ RHF

On Nov 29, 4:10*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:02:05 -0800 (PST), RHF

wrote:

- - American Needs a Flat National Sales Tax Now and
- - Needs to Abolish the Income Tax Now to Restore Our
- - Freedoms for All Americans.

- Sorry, but That would mean Bill Gates would have a LOT
- more "freedom" than anyone else.

D'Oh! - Bill Gates Presently Has A Lot More FEEDOM
then anyone else : Plus the Money to Buy More. ~ RHF

But under a Flat tax Plus System :
* Average American "The 90%ers"
Pay As You Spend Via a National Sales Tax
which in-fact Taxes the Chinese Made Product
at an Equal Rate as the American Made Product.
* High Income Americans "The 10%ers" with
Incomes above $250K : Pay the same National
Sales Tax as Everyone Else : Plus They Pay a
Flat Tax on All Income above $250K with No
Deductions.

On Nov 29, 4:30*pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:
BDK wrote:
My bad presidents:

1. G.W. Bush nobody comes close, a total embarrassment.
2. Jimmy Carter, worthless.
3. Nixon, a crooked *******.
4. LBJ..Vietnam.

You forgot that #4 also qualifies for a "crooked *******"...big time!

LBJ took your Social Security Money; and put
it into the General Fund - DA CRIMINAL !

RHF wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:10 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:02:05 -0800 (PST), RHF

wrote:

- - American Needs a Flat National Sales Tax Now and
- - Needs to Abolish the Income Tax Now to Restore Our
- - Freedoms for All Americans.

- Sorry, but That would mean Bill Gates would have a LOT
- more "freedom" than anyone else.

D'Oh! - Bill Gates Presently Has A Lot More FEEDOM
then anyone else : Plus the Money to Buy More. ~ RHF

But under a Flat tax Plus System :
* Average American "The 90%ers"
Pay As You Spend Via a National Sales Tax
which in-fact Taxes the Chinese Made Product
at an Equal Rate as the American Made Product.
* High Income Americans "The 10%ers" with
Incomes above $250K : Pay the same National
Sales Tax as Everyone Else : Plus They Pay a
Flat Tax on All Income above $250K with No
Deductions.
.

And the flat tax would be regressive as hell. The wealthy obviously
favor it for a reason, it would clearly reduce their taxes greatly,
while making it tougher on the middle and lower classes.

Republicans favor it for those reasons.

RHF wrote:
On Nov 29, 12:52 pm, David Hartung wrote:
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
Then you, sir, are suffering from the ID10T bug. I lived in
Arkansas in the 80's and watching Clinton as the best presdient
Chinese money could buy was like deja-vu all over again. He screwed
Arkansas, but swept things under the rug so it all fell on the next
Governor. He screwed America, too, but he swept it all under the
rug for Bush to get hit with.

And Obama can't help but be a bad president. He's a Chicago
Democrat. Part of the Machine, one of the most corrupt and
dishonest political organizations in the county. Not only does he
have William Ayres as a friend but he also has Jesse Jackson Jr and
Todd Stroger, both of which are typical tax-and-spend Dimocrats as
friends. The Dims here in Chicago are now ruling by primogeneture.
Richard J was replaced by his son Richard M. John Stroger was
replaced by his son. Emil Jones is trying to replace himself with
his son. Edward Madigan is trying to replace himself with his
daughter. Next thing Obama will start ruling by Divine Right. . . .

I have been waiting for this to come up.

- Obama is a politician from Chicago. It is rational to believe
- that he has some connection with the Daily machine.

- Is there any evidence to support this belief?

It's A Belief : Take It On Faith ;-} ~ RHF
.

It's another Republican spit ball.

wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:50:45 -0600,
"CharlesTheCurmudgeon" wrote:

hasn't started yet. They don't usually let
you into high screwel until age 14.


Well, that must really suck for you

Being whipped by what you consider "inferior" sure
don't look good on your resume.

SNICKER

High "screwel" is Limbaugh's term. He had a tough time in high "screwel"
and a worse time in college.

The only thing lamer is a poor little Ditto repeating his master's words.

Soumay Nonay wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:10 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:02:05 -0800 (PST), RHF

wrote:

- - American Needs a Flat National Sales Tax Now and
- - Needs to Abolish the Income Tax Now to Restore Our
- - Freedoms for All Americans.

- Sorry, but That would mean Bill Gates would have a LOT
- more "freedom" than anyone else.

D'Oh! - Bill Gates Presently Has A Lot More FEEDOM
then anyone else : Plus the Money to Buy More. ~ RHF

But under a Flat tax Plus System :
* Average American "The 90%ers"
Pay As You Spend Via a National Sales Tax
which in-fact Taxes the Chinese Made Product
at an Equal Rate as the American Made Product.
* High Income Americans "The 10%ers" with
Incomes above $250K : Pay the same National
Sales Tax as Everyone Else : Plus They Pay a
Flat Tax on All Income above $250K with No
Deductions.
.

And the flat tax would be regressive as hell. The wealthy obviously
favor it for a reason, it would clearly reduce their taxes greatly,
while making it tougher on the middle and lower classes.

Republicans favor it for those reasons.

Where does it say that taxers must be "progressive"?

David Hartung wrote:
Soumay Nonay wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:10 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:02:05 -0800 (PST), RHF

wrote:

- - American Needs a Flat National Sales Tax Now and
- - Needs to Abolish the Income Tax Now to Restore Our
- - Freedoms for All Americans.

- Sorry, but That would mean Bill Gates would have a LOT
- more "freedom" than anyone else.

D'Oh! - Bill Gates Presently Has A Lot More FEEDOM
then anyone else : Plus the Money to Buy More. ~ RHF

But under a Flat tax Plus System :
* Average American "The 90%ers"
Pay As You Spend Via a National Sales Tax
which in-fact Taxes the Chinese Made Product
at an Equal Rate as the American Made Product.
* High Income Americans "The 10%ers" with
Incomes above $250K : Pay the same National
Sales Tax as Everyone Else : Plus They Pay a
Flat Tax on All Income above $250K with No
Deductions.
.

And the flat tax would be regressive as hell. The wealthy obviously
favor it for a reason, it would clearly reduce their taxes greatly,
while making it tougher on the middle and lower classes.

Republicans favor it for those reasons.

Where does it say that taxers must be "progressive"?

Where does it say that the poorest Americans must bear the greatest porportionate
tax burden?

Perhaps the wealthiest people should simply not have to pay taxes at all?

wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:11:12 -0600, David Hartung
wrote:

There are no constitutional proscriptions against private relifios
organizations engaging in partisan political activity.

If they are tax exempt under religious affiliation,
yep.


If an organization is subsidized by government it cannot use its power
help shape that government. That is a conflict of interest.