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"possible security risks"....

Now there's a loaded assessment if ever I saw one. Absolutely anyone can
be
a "possible security risk". The Japanese that were here before and
during
WWII were Americans. They had chosen to leave their native country. As a
rule, this means that the place they left for offered them more than
their
home country, and that they no longer felt allegiance to their home
country.

You can't just arrest and imprison someone because they "are a possible
risk". If you could, then you, me, or anyone could be arrested and
imprisoned without cause or charge at any time. Mind you, with the
Patriot
Acts I and II, even this is now possible... all that has to happen is for
someone to point a finger at you along with a weak accusation. Indeed, a
very dangerous precedent.


FDR was a Liberal/Democrat/Marxist and he had them interned.



Only proves that both sides of the political spectrum are equally capable of
tossing human rights into the crapper.

Didn't FDR have to have CONgressional approval before interning thousands of
US citizens?


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Brenda Ann wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
"possible security risks"....

Now there's a loaded assessment if ever I saw one. Absolutely anyone can
be
a "possible security risk". The Japanese that were here before and
during
WWII were Americans. They had chosen to leave their native country. As a
rule, this means that the place they left for offered them more than
their
home country, and that they no longer felt allegiance to their home
country.

You can't just arrest and imprison someone because they "are a possible
risk". If you could, then you, me, or anyone could be arrested and
imprisoned without cause or charge at any time. Mind you, with the
Patriot
Acts I and II, even this is now possible... all that has to happen is for
someone to point a finger at you along with a weak accusation. Indeed, a
very dangerous precedent.


FDR was a Liberal/Democrat/Marxist and he had them interned.



Only proves that both sides of the political spectrum are equally capable of
tossing human rights into the crapper.


The Liberal/Democrat/Marxists seem to have a propensity for doing so!

Just wait till the 'tard boy Obama gets his hands on the controls.

I have a question: If for some reason Obama is unable to take the oath of
office, does that mean that Obiden, er, Biden would be sworn in as President, or
would Pelosi take the reigns, er, reins until new elections take place?


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"dxAce" wrote in message
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I have a question: If for some reason Obama is unable to take the oath of
office, does that mean that Obiden, er, Biden would be sworn in as
President, or
would Pelosi take the reigns, er, reins until new elections take place?


Line of succession is Veep, then Speaker of the House. Believe that's how
Ford got to be Veep, IIRC, he was Speaker when Agnew resigned.



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Brenda Ann wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I have a question: If for some reason Obama is unable to take the oath of
office, does that mean that Obiden, er, Biden would be sworn in as
President, or
would Pelosi take the reigns, er, reins until new elections take place?


Line of succession is Veep, then Speaker of the House. Believe that's how
Ford got to be Veep, IIRC, he was Speaker when Agnew resigned.


Yes, but we were not at a transition point at that time.

At this point, Biden was not actually elected, was he? Obama was the titular
(neat word!) head of the party with Biden merely clinging to the 'tard boy in
waiting.

So, I still wonder at this point if Biden could be legally sworn in.

Any precedents out there?


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Brenda Ann wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

I have a question: If for some reason Obama is unable to take the oath
of
office, does that mean that Obiden, er, Biden would be sworn in as
President, or
would Pelosi take the reigns, er, reins until new elections take place?


Line of succession is Veep, then Speaker of the House. Believe that's how
Ford got to be Veep, IIRC, he was Speaker when Agnew resigned.


Yes, but we were not at a transition point at that time.

At this point, Biden was not actually elected, was he? Obama was the
titular
(neat word!) head of the party with Biden merely clinging to the 'tard boy
in
waiting.

So, I still wonder at this point if Biden could be legally sworn in.

Any precedents out there?


As Biden is the VP-elect, if something happened to Obama between now and 20
January, Biden would be sworn in as President.








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Brenda Ann wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I have a question: If for some reason Obama is unable to take the oath of
office, does that mean that Obiden, er, Biden would be sworn in as
President, or
would Pelosi take the reigns, er, reins until new elections take place?


Line of succession is Veep, then Speaker of the House. Believe that's how
Ford got to be Veep, IIRC, he was Speaker when Agnew resigned.


He never became Speaker.

I was fortunate enough to stand before his coffin and salute while he lay in his
Museum in Grand Rapids, MI before his funeral, and before he was finally laid to
rest along the banks of the Grand River, outside of the Museum, not so many
miles from here.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Brenda Ann wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

I have a question: If for some reason Obama is unable to take the oath
of
office, does that mean that Obiden, er, Biden would be sworn in as
President, or
would Pelosi take the reigns, er, reins until new elections take place?


Line of succession is Veep, then Speaker of the House. Believe that's how
Ford got to be Veep, IIRC, he was Speaker when Agnew resigned.


He never became Speaker.

I was fortunate enough to stand before his coffin and salute while he lay
in his
Museum in Grand Rapids, MI before his funeral, and before he was finally
laid to
rest along the banks of the Grand River, outside of the Museum, not so
many
miles from here.



He visited Portland in '76, made an appearance at a Baptist church a few
blocks from my home at the time, but I couldn't get off work to go see him
(plus, there was a threat against his life at the rally.) At the time, I
was a registered Dem, but I still had great respect for the man, and the
fact he had a lot to clean up after Nixon's leaving office (and supported
him in his desire to pardon Tricky Dick so the country could move on). To
this day, leaving the current President Elect out of the equation because I
don't know what he'll actually DO yet), Ford is only the third President
that I have had great respect for during my lifetime (Ike, Kennedy were the
other two). I would have liked to have met him in life.


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On Dec 7, 8:28 pm, dxAce


I was fortunate enough to stand before his coffin and salute while he lay in his
Museum in Grand Rapids, MI before his funeral, and before he was finally laid to
rest along the banks of the Grand River, outside of the Museum, not so many
miles from here.


What city is his casket tour in by now? Ford was as big a crook as all
the rest of the arseholes in D.C., he just was less conspicuous about
it. Read Roy Cohn's memoir for specifics.

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