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David Eduardo wrote:

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And culture is learned, not
inherited. As someone who has never watched Saturday Night Live but
has
watched Sábado Gigante, one's culture is a product of one's life
experience,
family and circle of friends.

Once again, you are full of ****, 'Eduardo'. You are not Hispanic.


Culture is a product of environment. I am proud to not be a product of an
environment that spawned a bigot such as you.


Yeah, Cleveland is a rough place to grow up culturally!


I left Cleveland in early adolescence, although I grew up in a multilingual
home... the "other" 50 years of my adolescence and adult life have either
been in Latin America or in totally Hispanic communities and environments in
the US.

Nice try; culture is a product of environment.

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Heck, I can't recall exactly. One would have to search the archives.


Someone has archived The Well? Cool.


Actually Am NewsTalkers can survive very well, but it means actually
being a local community radio station! Doesn't mean you can't have
Glen Beck, it means being more than a repeater of national news
pretending to be local. It means investing in talent again, providing
real local news. It also means serving your niche very well, adults
35+

WIBC, KTAR, KIRO, KSL, WTOP. Very localized AM news talkers or news outlets
that have moved to FM (or are transitioning by simulcast) and seen the
ratings in 35-54, the only salable part of the audience, grown immensely.

35-54 will not listen, for the most part, to AM.

Radio lost the digital war to the internet and Ipods. Radio doesn't
matter to kids anymore, like it did when you and I grew up. Other
devices have replaced radio.

That would be why 93% to 95% of persons in the youth demos (12-17, 18-24)
use radio weekly?


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On Sat, 16 May 2009 20:57:56 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:



[snip]

I said previously that the current economy was likely going to set HD
back enough so that it would lose its window of opportunity. There is a
contraction in the economy at all level; consumers will not buy new home
radios nor will they buy new cars with HD. By the time the economy
recovers, we will be that much closer to WiMax and other delivery
systems.


HD got the development money first. That should be an advantage.


There are plenty of things on the "old" agenda that are not going to
happen due to the economy, and HD is just one of them.



If HD radio actually served a mass market, then, by now, it would be
sufficiently established that the poor economy would only be delaying HD
radio's potential competitors.



We have done the same comparisons ourselvs, so no thanks. The issue is
that a station music do separate processing for the digital stream to
the HD gear, or there will be no gain and considerable destruction of
the digital audio. When done right by good engineers, there is a
considerable difference that anyone can hear. First in noticability is
that since the noise floor is much lower, more dynamic range can be
preserved. Second, the nasty 75 us FM analog preemphasis curve does not
apply to digital, so there is another area of gain.


How many current stations even approach the limits of dynamic range of
FM? Here, there were a couple of classical stations, but one has been
gone for a few years.



Since the investments are already made, and nearly all viable Top 100
market FMs have HD, they will stay in place, and we will se what the end
game is. AM, as a band, is dead, so, short of having AM radios spit out
gold coins, nothing is going to help AM stations...


Since this is a DXer's forum, shouldn't HD radio discussions be taken to
mean AM IBOC by default, rather than FM?

And how about the sound of HD AM?

Frank Dresser

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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:



Again, "Hispanic" is a culture, not a race.


"Hispanic Surnamed" is the entire name of the cubbyhole.


No, it's not. There is a branch of my family, with the surname of "Gleason"
in Mexico with accomplishments such as being dean of a faculty at the UNAM,
and the mother of a former Mexican ambassador to Great Britain.

Of course, the original form of that surname is Celt, and comes from the
Northwestern part of the Iberian Peninsula, morphed only by long usage in
southwestern Ireland.

I know Hispanics with surnames like Liberman... in that case, the family
members qualified for minority tax certificates when they bought KLVE and
KTNQ in Los Angeles. Or names like Riekehoff, Fujimori, Kirchner, O'Higgins,
Fourquets, Bonet, Hadad, Slim, Dassum, Nebot, Fox, Rosenblat, Pisterman,
Smirnoff and many more, and all are Hispanics of some international
prominence or local fame.

It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census
definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being
Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the
Spanish language.


You are NOT Hispanic, boy! But feel free to get your panties in a knot and have
a hissy fit!


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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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And culture is learned, not
inherited. As someone who has never watched Saturday Night Live but
has
watched Sábado Gigante, one's culture is a product of one's life
experience,
family and circle of friends.

Once again, you are full of ****, 'Eduardo'. You are not Hispanic.

Culture is a product of environment. I am proud to not be a product of an
environment that spawned a bigot such as you.


Yeah, Cleveland is a rough place to grow up culturally!


I left Cleveland in early adolescence,


Early?

although I grew up in a multilingual
home... the "other" 50 years of my adolescence and adult life have either
been in Latin America or in totally Hispanic communities and environments in
the US.

Nice try; culture is a product of environment.


Nice try: you're full of ****, boy!




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On Sat, 16 May 2009 20:57:56 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

HD got the development money first. That should be an advantage.


WiMax is developed and deploying; a number of markets are on the air under
ClearWire technology.

There are plenty of things on the "old" agenda that are not going to
happen due to the economy, and HD is just one of them.



If HD radio actually served a mass market, then, by now, it would be
sufficiently established that the poor economy would only be delaying HD
radio's potential competitors.


It took FM over 3 decades to develop. While the HD2 concept came mostly from
the NPR affiliates who wanted more programming, the opportunities in
specialized, second tier formats do exist. Whether the economy will allow
that to be developed remans to be seen.

How many current stations even approach the limits of dynamic range of
FM? Here, there were a couple of classical stations, but one has been
gone for a few years.


They can't, mostly because of noise floor concerns in the listening
environment. In the case of the HD1 channel, there is an option for quieter
environments now.

Since this is a DXer's forum, shouldn't HD radio discussions be taken to
mean AM IBOC by default, rather than FM?


There is no FM DX? That's now one of the more interesting areas of DXing.

And how about the sound of HD AM?


It is good, but the issue is audio sources. News stations that use cellulars
and other compressed sources for reports can sound horrible because of the
addition of different codecs.

The real issue is that AM, on today's receivers and in today's noisy
environment, is dying and is very old technology.

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David Eduardo wrote:

It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census
definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being
Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the
Spanish language.


You are NOT Hispanic, boy! But feel free to get your panties in a knot and
have
a hissy fit!


At the end of the day, what you think is irrelevant. A denial from you, in
fact, is an affirmation of truth.

Hell, you are the person who denies that AM confirmations of reception are
called "veries" despite hundreds of reams of DX News, DX Monitor, Radex,
NNRC bulletins, etc., containing evidence to the contrary.

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On May 17, 1:37 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

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Heck, I can't recall exactly. One would have to search the archives.

Someone has archived The Well? Cool.


Actually Am NewsTalkers can survive very well, but it means actually
being a local community radio station! Doesn't mean you can't have
Glen Beck, it means being more than a repeater of national news
pretending to be local. It means investing in talent again, providing
real local news. It also means serving your niche very well, adults
35+

Radio lost the digital war to the internet and Ipods. Radio doesn't
matter to kids anymore, like it did when you and I grew up. Other
devices have replaced radio.

Radio is about people,


Radio is merely linear organization of sound. The transmission layer is
inconsequential.
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census
definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being
Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the
Spanish language.


You are NOT Hispanic, boy! But feel free to get your panties in a knot and
have
a hissy fit!


At the end of the day, what you think is irrelevant. A denial from you, in
fact, is an affirmation of truth.

Hell, you are the person who denies that AM confirmations of reception are
called "veries" despite hundreds of reams of DX News, DX Monitor, Radex,
NNRC bulletins, etc., containing evidence to the contrary.


Hell, you are the dufus who thinks he's Hispanic!

Have a hissy fit, boy!


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David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:



Again, "Hispanic" is a culture, not a race.


"Hispanic Surnamed" is the entire name of the cubbyhole.


No, it's not. There is a branch of my family, with the surname of
"Gleason" in Mexico with accomplishments such as being dean of a faculty
at the UNAM, and the mother of a former Mexican ambassador to Great
Britain.

Of course, the original form of that surname is Celt, and comes from the
Northwestern part of the Iberian Peninsula, morphed only by long usage
in southwestern Ireland.

I know Hispanics with surnames like Liberman... in that case, the family
members qualified for minority tax certificates when they bought KLVE
and KTNQ in Los Angeles. Or names like Riekehoff, Fujimori, Kirchner,
O'Higgins, Fourquets, Bonet, Hadad, Slim, Dassum, Nebot, Fox, Rosenblat,
Pisterman, Smirnoff and many more, and all are Hispanics of some
international prominence or local fame.

It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census
definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being
Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the
Spanish language.



i know more about the history or racism in this country than you do.

http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/report/hwg.html
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