On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:29:58 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 at 05:17:27, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote in uk.politics.misc :

Far better technique than converting our societies into ever-tightening
"national security" states:

1) Stop invading and occupying other people's countries or fomenting
revolution in them, and 2) stop supporting those who do; if we did so,
90 per cent. of the hatred of the West would disappear in time. At the
same time we need to 3) take steps to prevent the invasion and
occupation of our own lands.

If they stopped carrying out terrorist attacks on the West, *we'd* stop
hassling *them*...



The first arab terrorist attacks against western interests were in
1970. Palestinians hijacking jets. Nobody except Israel was hassling
them but Israel did and still does get a lot of backing from both USA
and UK. The elephant in the room is still there and it's Israel and
Palestine. Sort that and much of the problem will vanish.

The current wave was sparked by the invasion of Iraq. Quite why that
was done I can't work out. If they wanted a villain then the obvious
choice was the country where the Sept 11 hijackers originated. Plus at
the time the same country was holding britons as prisoners and
allegations of torture were being made. We had a real excuse to invade
not like the phony one made for Iraq. The place is a hotbed of
religious fundamentalism. Invading and stamping it out should have
been a prime objective. Perhaps the reason the Saudis were left alone
is because the ruling families are pals with the ruling families in
the west.

On Dec 31, 11:59*am, Alang wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:29:58 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 at 05:17:27, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote in uk.politics.misc :

Far better technique than converting our societies into ever-tightening
"national security" states:

1) Stop invading and occupying other people's countries or fomenting
revolution in them, and 2) stop supporting those who do; if we did so,
90 per cent. of the hatred of the West would disappear in time. At the
same time we need to 3) take steps to prevent the invasion and
occupation of our own lands.

If they stopped carrying out terrorist attacks on the West, *we'd* stop
hassling *them*...

The first arab terrorist attacks against western interests were in
1970. Palestinians hijacking jets. *Nobody except Israel was hassling
them but Israel did and still does get a lot of backing from both USA
and UK. The elephant in the room is still there and it's Israel and
Palestine. Sort that and much of the problem will vanish.

The current wave was sparked by the invasion of Iraq. Quite why that
was done I can't work out. If they wanted a villain then the obvious
choice was the country where the Sept 11 hijackers originated. Plus at
the time the same country was holding britons as prisoners and
allegations of torture were being made. We had a real excuse to invade
not like the phony one made for Iraq. The place is a hotbed of
religious fundamentalism. Invading and stamping it out should have
been a prime objective. *Perhaps the reason the Saudis were left alone
is because the ruling families are pals with the ruling families in
the west.

.....and they have their own private plane....;-)