On Jun 14, 5:45*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 13, 5:47 pm, m *wrote:
dave wrote:
You can believe whatever makes your loins tingle

He is a Mormon Elder? I believe we already KNOW what's making his 'loins
tingle'. I've never seen anyone so actively defending paedophilia in the
name of religious freedom.

mike

Mike [M II],

Which part of the All American Idea and Civil Right
of Innocent Until Proven Guilty and being Tried by
a Jury of your Peers does your Canadian Mind NOT
Understand.

http://www.thesmokinggun.moc/archive...7081flds1.html

So Dave are you now 'proselytizing' for the FLDS
or just acting as Warren Jeffs pimp daddy ? ~ RHF

On Jun 14, 5:58*pm, m II wrote:
dave wrote:

- - - Which part of the All American Idea and Civil Right
- - - of Innocent Until Proven Guilty and being Tried by
- - - a Jury of your Peers does your Canadian Mind NOT
- - - Understand.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...7081flds1.html

- Isn't that RHF's 12 year old daughter?
-
- http://tinyurl.moc/25rg5hs
-
- I wonder how much money he got for her...
-
- mike

Mike [M II] is that what you do in Canadian :
Buy and Sell Children to be used as Sex Slaves ?

Must get very lonely in the Great White North
when you don't have any Baby Seals to Bash
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xTYjyQln0QY/0.jpg
-but- considering how you mistreat Young
Women in Canada . . .
http://blog.peta.org/archives/Ottawa...test%20006.jpg

Mike [M II] got news for you - It ain't Legal down
here in the USA to Mistreat People of Animals.

now go wash the blood off your hands ~ RHF

On Jun 15, 2:42*pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
http://www.thesmokinggun.moc/archive...7081flds1.html

So Dave are you now 'proselytizing' for the FLDS
or just acting as Warren Jeffs pimp daddy ? ~ RHF

I'm quite surprised. These two children KNOW the names of their fellow
brothers and sisters. Their Mormon father and his fifty Mormon wives
couldn't be reached for comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdmiZyyGjQ

Sadly, one the siblings was taken from them at an early age. Back when
there were only thirty members of the brood.

http://tinyurl.com/37kprx2

The very sad details of this occurrence are listed he

http://tinyurl.com/egbao

With countless similar deaths happening DAILY, I'm not surprised the
Mormons have to reproduce at such an abnormal rate. It's a matter of
survival. That fact certainly puts things in a different light and
proves once again, that we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

mike

Mike [M II] keep Preaching that Pure Canadian
Hatred and Intolerance for All Things Mormon. ~ RHF

+ Plus we will add that to you long list of
Preaching that Pure Canadian Hatred and
Intolerance for All Things Jewish.

-ps- care to add any other religions or faiths
to your list . . .

RHF wrote:

Mike [M II] keep Preaching that Pure Canadian
Hatred and Intolerance for All Things Mormon. ~ RHF

I can not accept your love of polygamy and paedophilia. I'm sorry. I
don't know what's wrong with me. Feel free to father another 120
children. The planet won't mind.



+ Plus we will add that to you long list of
Preaching that Pure Canadian Hatred and
Intolerance for All Things Jewish.



The Rebe has 120 children also? Wow. Mind you it's not surprising. The
Good Book has no real proscription against it. There IS a catch,
however. You actually have to be able to FEED and CLOTHE these wives.
Bummer. That certainly diminishes the rights that property owners USED
to have.


Der Rebe mike Elimelekh

RHF wrote:

Mike [M II] keep Preaching that Pure Canadian
Hatred and Intolerance for All Things Mormon. ~ RHF

+ Plus we will add that to you long list of
Preaching that Pure Canadian Hatred and
Intolerance for All Things Jewish.

-ps- care to add any other religions or faiths
to your list . . .
.

FLDS and Mormons are not the same thing.

On Jun 16, 8:00*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike [M II] keep Preaching that Pure Canadian
Hatred and Intolerance for All Things Mormon. ~ RHF

+ Plus we will add that to you long list of
Preaching that Pure Canadian Hatred and
Intolerance for All Things Jewish.

-ps- care to add any other religions or faiths
to your list . . .
* .

- FLDS and Mormons are not the same thing.

Dave - Now that is true -but- to pre-judge someone
because they are a member of either is bigotry.

Dave - Go back to the original post :
OT - Warren Jeffs Cased is Dismissed
-hello- D-I-S-M-S-S-E-D
-reason- Often the Prosecution will DISMISS the
Criminal Charges when the State cannot proceed
in good faith based on lack of evidence; or they
cannot prove the elements of the crime to a Jury
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt at Trial.
-hint- LACK OF [NO/NADA/NONE] EVIDENCE

1 - "Both of the two girls decided not to testify"
-translation- NO WITNESSES
{No Elements (Material Facts} of a Crime}

2 - the prosecution said "it just wouldn't be worth it"
-translation- THE PROSECUTOR HAD NO CASE

Conclusion : The Prosecutor or Judge Dismissed
the Case; cause the Crimes(s) could not Legally
be Proven in a Court of Law.

-note- Now honestly do I 'think' Warren Jeffs is
Guilty-as-Hell [Yes] -but- At this Time not in a
Court of Law -so- For now Warren Jeffs is afforded
his Civil Right of the Presumption of Being Innocent
Until Proven Guilty.

dave - don't be willing to convict 'the accused' based on
your dislike of for him and hatred for his religion ~ RHF

On Jun 16, 3:18*pm, RHF wrote:
On Jun 16, 8:00*am, dave wrote:

RHF wrote:
Mike [M II] keep Preaching that Pure Canadian
Hatred and Intolerance for All Things Mormon. ~ RHF

+ Plus we will add that to you long list of
Preaching that Pure Canadian Hatred and
Intolerance for All Things Jewish.

-ps- care to add any other religions or faiths
to your list . . .
* .

- FLDS and Mormons are not the same thing.

Dave - Now that is true -but- to pre-judge someone
because they are a member of either is bigotry.

Dave - Go back to the original post :
OT - Warren Jeffs Cased is Dismissed
-hello- D-I-S-M-S-S-E-D
-reason- Often the Prosecution will DISMISS the
Criminal Charges when the State cannot proceed
in good faith based on lack of evidence; or they
cannot prove the elements of the crime to a Jury
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt at Trial.
-hint- LACK OF [NO/NADA/NONE] EVIDENCE

1 - "Both of the two girls decided not to testify"
-translation- NO WITNESSES
{No Elements (Material Facts} of a Crime}

2 - the prosecution said "it just wouldn't be worth it"
-translation- THE PROSECUTOR HAD NO CASE

Conclusion : The Prosecutor or Judge Dismissed
the Case; cause the Crimes(s) could not Legally
be Proven in a Court of Law.

-note- Now honestly do I 'think' Warren Jeffs is
Guilty-as-Hell [Yes] -but- At this Time not in a
Court of Law -so- For now Warren Jeffs is afforded
his Civil Right of the Presumption of Being Innocent
Until Proven Guilty.

dave - don't be willing to convict 'the accused' based on
your dislike of for him and hatred for his religion ~ RHF
*.

Here is the part RHF that I feel is somewhat hypocritical. Like you
said, and I agree with, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. If
that is indeed the truth, along with the ole' 'fair and speedy trial'
- - why is it many many people are either held at a bond so high they
can't afford to get out or no bailbondsmen can find them with a search
warrant?

Then they sit and languish in jail for usually two and a half too
three years if they decide to take their case to trial because they
didn't do it. If they're presumed innocent as everyone says ( though
we both know most have already made up their mind) - why must they
spend anymore time that it takes for booking? Follow me fella? ;-)
Questions to ponder IMO.

I'm glad he walked.

In "My Apinion" what "They Say" he did they can't prove.

A lot of states have 13 year old minimum age and lower with a judge's
approval.
Check it out guys, I did!

Burr
Roy send me your email address

RHF wrote:


dave - don't be willing to convict 'the accused' based on
your dislike of for him and hatred for his religion ~ RHF
.
And the pictures of him giving tongue to a twelve year old.

On Jun 16, 2:24*pm, Gregg wrote:
On Jun 16, 3:18*pm, RHF wrote:



On Jun 16, 8:00*am, dave wrote:

RHF wrote:
Mike [M II] keep Preaching that Pure Canadian
Hatred and Intolerance for All Things Mormon. ~ RHF

+ Plus we will add that to you long list of
Preaching that Pure Canadian Hatred and
Intolerance for All Things Jewish.

-ps- care to add any other religions or faiths
to your list . . .
* .

- FLDS and Mormons are not the same thing.

Dave - Now that is true -but- to pre-judge someone
because they are a member of either is bigotry.

Dave - Go back to the original post :
OT - Warren Jeffs Cased is Dismissed
-hello- D-I-S-M-S-S-E-D
-reason- Often the Prosecution will DISMISS the
Criminal Charges when the State cannot proceed
in good faith based on lack of evidence; or they
cannot prove the elements of the crime to a Jury
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt at Trial.
-hint- LACK OF [NO/NADA/NONE] EVIDENCE

1 - "Both of the two girls decided not to testify"
-translation- NO WITNESSES
{No Elements (Material Facts} of a Crime}

2 - the prosecution said "it just wouldn't be worth it"
-translation- THE PROSECUTOR HAD NO CASE

Conclusion : The Prosecutor or Judge Dismissed
the Case; cause the Crimes(s) could not Legally
be Proven in a Court of Law.

-note- Now honestly do I 'think' Warren Jeffs is
Guilty-as-Hell [Yes] -but- At this Time not in a
Court of Law -so- For now Warren Jeffs is afforded
his Civil Right of the Presumption of Being Innocent
Until Proven Guilty.

dave - don't be willing to convict 'the accused' based on
your dislike of for him and hatred for his religion ~ RHF
*.

- Here is the part RHF that I feel is somewhat hypocritical. Like you
- said, and I agree with, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. If
- that is indeed the truth, along with the ole' 'fair and speedy
trial'
- - - why is it many many people are either held at a bond so high
they
- can't afford to get out or no bailbondsmen can find them with a
search
- warrant?
-
- Then they sit and languish in jail for usually two and a half too
- three years if they decide to take their case to trial because they
- didn't do it. If they're presumed innocent as everyone says ( though
- we both know most have already made up their mind) - why must they
- spend anymore time that it takes for booking? Follow me fella? ;-)
- Questions to ponder IMO.

Many times Bail and Bonding is simply Legal
Extortion. and it is all part of the Legal $ystem :
Court$ & Judge$ & Lawyer$ & Bail Bond$men & $taff

Yes - Why Do You Have To Pay To Be Free :
? When You Are Presumed Innocent ?

This same Group had their Children Illegally Taken
Away in Texas by the State and Later the Courts
Ruled in-favor of the Mothers and the Children.
Point being once the Fathers were removed {Jailed}
the Children were NO longer At-Risk since the
Mothers were never 'alleged' to be Abusers.

But to the State of Texas and many in the Public
they were the FLDS Church and therefore already
guilty.

But to the State of Texas and many in the Public
they were the Polygamist and therefore already
guilty.

But to the State of Texas and many in the Public
they were 'allegations' of the Sexual Abuse of
Children and therefore they were already guilty.

-note- The originating False Stories of the Sexual
Abuse of Children by the individual with documented
mental problems were proven to be just that False
Stories. {That the Texas Authorities Failed to Check
Out before Acting on their own Bias and Bigotry.}

a rush to judgment can be a speedy path to hell ~ RHF