On Sep 26, 1:28*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 26, 6:34*am, RHF wrote:



On Sep 26, 12:57*am, bpnjensen wrote:

On Sep 25, 10:58*pm, RHF wrote:

On Sep 25, 10:15*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

On Sep 25, 5:59*pm, RHF wrote:

On Sep 24, 10:53*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

On Sep 24, 5:19*pm, RHF wrote:

On Sep 23, 7:46*am, dave wrote:- - wrote:

- - You can use all the Marijuana you want,
- - I don't care.I don't mess with that crap,
- - I never have, and I never will.

- You
-
- don't
-
- say...

'Special Dave' - No He Don't Smoke Dope [.]

who needs marijuana when you have a
mason jar full of white-lightning ~ RHF
*.
*.

- Man, alcohol is just as bad and maybe worse. *Just another drug,
just
- another addiction, just another stupefied user. *Why you people draw
- an artificial distinction between alcohol and every other dangerous
- drug is beyond me. *Dope is dope, whether you smoke it or drink it.

- - - - BpnJ,
- - - -
- - - *- Wine in Moderation with Food is a Food.
- - - -
- - - - A Cold Beer on a Hot Day is Refreshing.
- - - -
- - - - the spirit of life is how you approach life
- - - - and enjoy the fullness of your life ~ RHF

- - - Similar things can be said for smoking pot.

- - Nah the only thing Long Term Pot Smoking
- - results in is Emphysema and Lung Cancer.

- Your opinion, not fact.

BpnJ -so- Now You Are Now A 'Science' Denier !

Yeah - First Here Are My Opinions :
Hot Toxic* Tobacco Smoke = Hot Toxic* Marijuana Smoke
* Both Smokes Contain many 'other' Organic Poisons
Second Hand Smoking = Contact High
Better to take a Nicotine Pill = Better to take a THC Pill**
** Hey What About THC Patches : Pure THC; that are
Time Release; No Smoking Required; ?Free? to anyone
with a Medical Marijuana [MM]# Card.
# *Medical Marijuana "MM" does have it's uses for all those
who need it as a Valid Medical Therapy -and- It's Abuses
for all those who exploit it just to get High/Loaded/Buzzed.
1 - The vast majority of the former generally are treated
better by a Medical THC Pill or Medical THC Patch
-versus- Smoking Toxic Marijuana
2 - The vast majority of the latter can generally can
'medicate' themselves {get High/Loaded/Buzzed}
by simply Smoking Marijuana with it's toxins

OBTW - One of the outgrowths of Legalizing Medical
Marijuana [MM] that I hope would come about is low
cost {cheap $1 a Day} Prescription (Rx) Medical THC
Pills and/or Medical THC Patches that would be
Paid-For-By Health Insurance {State Law}.

? Medical Marijuana as a Treatment for Alzheimer
Patients ? *-Yes- Well at least for the ones that
display Sever Anger Issues as part of the Disease.
-reallity- Patient Management -not- Treatment

-and- some/a little 'Science' That Formed Them :

* The Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment
(OEHHA) of the California Environmental Protection Agency
{CAL EPA} is adding Marijuana Smoke to the Proposition 65
List # 1 -effective- 19 June 2009.http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/docs_state/mjcrnr061909.html

* Marijuana Smoke Contains Higher Levels
of Certain Toxins Than Tobacco Smokehttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071217110328.htm
-source- Science Daily ~ Science News

* Basic Facts About Marijuanahttp://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm
-source- American Council for Drug Education

* JFTFOI - Traditional Chinese Medicine Says
'Marijuana harms your Lung System'http://www.getbackyourdream.com/L4_lungs.html

bpnj - chill-out and go out and enjoy a nice-hike
-or- simply listen to your radios ~ RHF
*.
-ps- I can smell the fresh ground and brewed coffee
calling . . . RHF's 'StarBucks' -with-out- "The Bucks"
*.
? StarBucks -with-out- "The Bucks" Coffee !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...076fe9a12177e9
*.
*.

First of all, I was questioning your opinion about:

"Similar things can be said for smoking pot.



- - Nah the only thing Long Term Pot Smoking
- - results in is Emphysema and Lung Cancer."

Not the science - but your opinion that smoking pot does not bring the
pleasure that a beer or wine brings. *In this regard the science is
beside the point - Tobacco and alcohol are both legal, both harmful in
various amounts, and are arguably as bad as or worse than marijuana in
terms of addictiveness and harmfulness. *So whats's the diff? *Your
argument was about *the happiness it brings*, and that is what I said
was your opinion. *Others will differ, and will choose MJ as their
poison of choice.

So stop calling me a science denier (I am nothing of the kind), stop
with the labels and other crapola. *Your opinion about what makes a
person happy is just that - an opinion, and your "nah" makes believe
that no others count, when they are just as valid.

Bruce

BpnJ - Did I Not Write :
"Yeah - First Here Are My Opinions :"
which you label 'crapola' -nitt-

ok, Ok. OK ! - BpnJ,

Agreed : a buzz, -is- A Buzz. -is- A BUZZ !

a Coffee & Cigarette Buzz* = a mild Pot Buzz*

a 6-Pack Beer Buzz* = a Pot Buzz*

a 750ml Bottle of Wine Buzz* = a Pot Buzz*

a Mason Jar White-Lightning Buzz* =/= a Pot Buzz*
-cause- the Mason Jar full of White-Lightning is
going give you a real 1st Class Hurting Headache

* Buzz ~ High ~ Loaded ~ Wasted ~ Passed-Out
-wrt- Whatever Your Level of Enjoyment and/or Pain

=WRT= All of the Above : All Things in Moderation

however the bottom-line remains
DON'T DRIVE BUZZED* [.] ~ RHF

On Sep 26, 2:08*pm, Bob S wrote:
On 9/26/2010 4:28 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Sep 26, 6:34 am, *wrote:
On Sep 26, 12:57 am, *wrote:

On Sep 25, 10:58 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 25, 10:15 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 25, 5:59 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 24, 10:53 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 24, 5:19 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 23, 7:46 am, *wrote:- - wrote:

- - You can use all the Marijuana you want,
- - I don't care.I don't mess with that crap,
- - I never have, and I never will.

- You
-
- don't
-
- say...

'Special Dave' - No He Don't Smoke Dope [.]

who needs marijuana when you have a
mason jar full of white-lightning ~ RHF
* .
* .

- Man, alcohol is just as bad and maybe worse. *Just another drug,
just
- another addiction, just another stupefied user. *Why you people draw
- an artificial distinction between alcohol and every other dangerous
- drug is beyond me. *Dope is dope, whether you smoke it or drink it.

- - - - BpnJ,
- - - -
- - - *- Wine in Moderation with Food is a Food.
- - - -
- - - - A Cold Beer on a Hot Day is Refreshing.
- - - -
- - - - the spirit of life is how you approach life
- - - - and enjoy the fullness of your life ~ RHF

- - - Similar things can be said for smoking pot.

- - Nah the only thing Long Term Pot Smoking
- - results in is Emphysema and Lung Cancer.

- Your opinion, not fact.

BpnJ -so- Now You Are Now A 'Science' Denier !

Yeah - First Here Are My Opinions :
Hot Toxic* Tobacco Smoke = Hot Toxic* Marijuana Smoke
* Both Smokes Contain many 'other' Organic Poisons
Second Hand Smoking = Contact High
Better to take a Nicotine Pill = Better to take a THC Pill**
** Hey What About THC Patches : Pure THC; that are
Time Release; No Smoking Required; ?Free? to anyone
with a Medical Marijuana [MM]# Card.
# *Medical Marijuana "MM" does have it's uses for all those
who need it as a Valid Medical Therapy -and- It's Abuses
for all those who exploit it just to get High/Loaded/Buzzed.
1 - The vast majority of the former generally are treated
better by a Medical THC Pill or Medical THC Patch
-versus- Smoking Toxic Marijuana
2 - The vast majority of the latter can generally can
'medicate' themselves {get High/Loaded/Buzzed}
by simply Smoking Marijuana with it's toxins

OBTW - One of the outgrowths of Legalizing Medical
Marijuana [MM] that I hope would come about is low
cost {cheap $1 a Day} Prescription (Rx) Medical THC
Pills and/or Medical THC Patches that would be
Paid-For-By Health Insurance {State Law}.

? Medical Marijuana as a Treatment for Alzheimer
Patients ? *-Yes- Well at least for the ones that
display Sever Anger Issues as part of the Disease.
-reallity- Patient Management -not- Treatment

-and- some/a little 'Science' That Formed Them :

* The Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment
(OEHHA) of the California Environmental Protection Agency
{CAL EPA} is adding Marijuana Smoke to the Proposition 65
List # 1 -effective- 19 June 2009.http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/docs_state/mjcrnr061909.html

* Marijuana Smoke Contains Higher Levels
of Certain Toxins Than Tobacco Smokehttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071217110328.htm
-source- Science Daily ~ Science News

* Basic Facts About Marijuanahttp://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm
-source- American Council for Drug Education

* JFTFOI - Traditional Chinese Medicine Says
'Marijuana harms your Lung System'http://www.getbackyourdream.com/L4_lungs.html

bpnj - chill-out and go out and enjoy a nice-hike
-or- simply listen to your radios ~ RHF
* .
-ps- I can smell the fresh ground and brewed coffee
calling . . . RHF's 'StarBucks' -with-out- "The Bucks"
* .
? StarBucks -with-out- "The Bucks" Coffee !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...076fe9a12177e9
* .
* .

First of all, I was questioning your opinion about:

"Similar things can be said for smoking pot.

- - Nah the only thing Long Term Pot Smoking
- - results in is Emphysema and Lung Cancer."

Not the science - but your opinion that smoking pot does not bring the
pleasure that a beer or wine brings. *In this regard the science is
beside the point - Tobacco and alcohol are both legal, both harmful in
various amounts, and are arguably as bad as or worse than marijuana in
terms of addictiveness and harmfulness. *So whats's the diff? *Your
argument was about *the happiness it brings*, and that is what I said
was your opinion. *Others will differ, and will choose MJ as their
poison of choice.

So stop calling me a science denier (I am nothing of the kind), stop
with the labels and other crapola. *Your opinion about what makes a
person happy is just that - an opinion, and your "nah" makes believe
that no others count, when they are just as valid.

Bruce

Bruce, *You're articulate, smart and seem to be a real nice guy. *Why do
you allow yourself to get into discussions with the idiot? *Does anyone
else on this group read any of his crap?
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Bob, I appreciate the kind words. There's more to me than what
appears on this NG, of course, not all of it smart or nice ;-). As to
your question, that's a hard one. I have no easy answer.

Bruce

On 9/27/10 10:10 , bpnjensen wrote:


Bob, I appreciate the kind words. There's more to me than what
appears on this NG, of course, not all of it smart or nice ;-).


That's true of all of us, Bruce.

The difference is that you tend to remain civil. Not a common
thing.