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Default Mexican IBOC - It's Borderblasters, revisited - LOL!

"Mexico OK's HD Radio For Stations Near U.S. Border"

May 21, 2008 - "Mexico's Federal Telecommunications Commission
(CoFeTel) is authorizing radio stations within 320 kilometers, or
about 200 miles, of the Mexico-U.S. border to begin broadcasting in HD
Radio."

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

"Mexico Says Hang on a Minute!"

"Mexico wants U.S. radio regulators to re-think their decision to
allow AMs to go IBOC at night and FMs to operate on the extended
hybrid digital carriers. Our neighbors to the south say they are not
happy the FCC authorized its recent 'final' IBOC rules governing
broadcast transmissions without first coordinating those through
international treaties."

http://www.radioworld.com/article/6410

It's Borderblasters, revisited. Mexico wants to have the option to
unleash mutually-assured-hiss-destruction (MADD HISS) in the event the
IBOC noise from La Frontera gets too bad. That's all, folks! LMFAO!
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On Mar 1, 10:48*am, iBiquity Fraudsters
wrote:
"Mexico OK's HD Radio For Stations Near U.S. Border"

May 21, 2008 - "Mexico's Federal Telecommunications Commission
(CoFeTel) is authorizing radio stations within 320 kilometers, or
about 200 miles, of the Mexico-U.S. border to begin broadcasting in HD
Radio."

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

"Mexico Says Hang on a Minute!"

"Mexico wants U.S. radio regulators to re-think their decision to
allow AMs to go IBOC at night and FMs to operate on the extended
hybrid digital carriers. Our neighbors to the south say they are not
happy the FCC authorized its recent 'final' IBOC rules governing
broadcast transmissions without first coordinating those through
international treaties."

http://www.radioworld.com/article/6410

It's Borderblasters, revisited. *Mexico wants to have the option to
unleash mutually-assured-hiss-destruction (MADD HISS) in the event the
IBOC noise from La Frontera gets too bad. That's all, folks! LMFAO!


Things have a way of Resolving Themselves Over-Time !

IBOC : The Path To HD-Radio Acceptance and Use . . .

Phase One of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 1~5}
Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with very few HD-Radio Receivers :
The Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is both Local and Distant Radio
Station Listening.
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On 3/2/2011 4:01 AM, RHF wrote:
On Mar 1, 10:48 am, iBiquity
wrote:
"Mexico OK's HD Radio For Stations Near U.S. Border"

May 21, 2008 - "Mexico's Federal Telecommunications Commission
(CoFeTel) is authorizing radio stations within 320 kilometers, or
about 200 miles, of the Mexico-U.S. border to begin broadcasting in HD
Radio."

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

"Mexico Says Hang on a Minute!"

"Mexico wants U.S. radio regulators to re-think their decision to
allow AMs to go IBOC at night and FMs to operate on the extended
hybrid digital carriers. Our neighbors to the south say they are not
happy the FCC authorized its recent 'final' IBOC rules governing
broadcast transmissions without first coordinating those through
international treaties."

http://www.radioworld.com/article/6410

It's Borderblasters, revisited. Mexico wants to have the option to
unleash mutually-assured-hiss-destruction (MADD HISS) in the event the
IBOC noise from La Frontera gets too bad. That's all, folks! LMFAO!


Things have a way of Resolving Themselves Over-Time !

IBOC : The Path To HD-Radio Acceptance and Use . . .

Phase One of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 1~5}
Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with very few HD-Radio Receivers :
The Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is both Local and Distant Radio
Station Listening.
.
Phase Two of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 6~10}
Still a Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with a mixture of Analog and HD-Radio Receivers :
Still the Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
-but- HD-Radio Listeners Using HD-Radios Do Not
Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is mostly now Local still with some
Distant Radio Station Listening.
.
Phase Three of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 11~15}
Mostly IBOC Digital Broadcasters with some Analog
and mostly HD-Radio Receivers with some Analog :
Majority is now HD Radio Listeners* Who Are Now
Using HD-Radios and Do Not Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
-and- There still is a few Analog Radio Listeners who still
Notice "The Hash/Buzz" when they do not Listen 'Local'
* Radio Listening is now almost all 'Local' with very little
Distant Radio Station Listening.

NOTE : The AM/FM Radio Station Business Model
is Built-On "Local" Advertising -and- IBOC Forces All
Radio Listening To Be "Local" and Reduces Distant
Radio Listening ~translation~ IBOC Is Good Business.

-note- A Brokered Radio Program on 500 Radio Stations
with an 800# a/o Website is Still "Local" Advertising :
That is simply scaled-up by the means of distribution
to a nation-wide 'localized' market.

and that is the way 'i' see it ~ RHF


That's not an unreasonable view.

Eventually the allowable digital power is going to be raised to a level
where it really does cause unacceptable interference with analog, even
locally. So far, if you're listening to local stations, within their
protected contour, you're highly unlikely to notice any interference (at
least there have been no valid incidences of it that have been reported
to the FCC), but for long distance listening there can be issues. Alas,
just as getting away with operating components far beyond their maximum
ratings for years, then getting a batch that works only slightly beyond
their maximum ratings, there was never any guarantee to these stations
that they could operate beyond their protected contour forever.
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Default IBOC : The Path To HD-Radio Acceptance and Use . . .

On Mar 2, 7:33*am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
On 3/2/2011 7:01 AM, RHF wrote:
[...]





IBOC : The Path To HD-Radio Acceptance and Use . . .


Phase One of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 1~5}
Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with very few HD-Radio Receivers :
The Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is both Local and Distant Radio
Station Listening.
* .
Phase Two of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 6~10}
Still a Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with a mixture of *Analog and HD-Radio Receivers :
Still the Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
-but- HD-Radio Listeners Using HD-Radios Do Not
Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is mostly now Local still with some
Distant Radio Station Listening.
* .
Phase Three of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 11~15}
Mostly IBOC Digital Broadcasters with some Analog
and mostly HD-Radio Receivers with some Analog :
Majority is now HD Radio Listeners* Who Are Now
Using HD-Radios and Do Not Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
-and- There still is a few Analog Radio Listeners who still
Notice "The Hash/Buzz" when they do not Listen 'Local'
* Radio Listening is now almost all 'Local' with very little
Distant Radio Station Listening.


NOTE : The AM/FM Radio Station Business Model
is Built-On "Local" Advertising -and- IBOC Forces All
Radio Listening To Be "Local" and Reduces Distant
Radio Listening ~translation~ IBOC Is Good Business.


-note- A Brokered Radio Program on 500 Radio Stations
with an 800# a/o Website is Still "Local" Advertising :
That is simply scaled-up by the means of distribution
to a nation-wide 'localized' market.


and that is the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
* .
* .


I saw the prelude to the entire IBOC debacle from the inside.

IBOC is a brazen scam.

Its primary purpose -- the purpose for which it was designed -- was
to preserve the vast signal superiority of the higher-power FM
stations over their lower-power FM, and AM, competitors. It was
designed specifically to _prevent_, as much as possible, any
increase in relative signal quality or coverage on the part of the
lower power and AM licensees that might otherwise have occurred.

In achieving this goal, IBOC has been quite successful.

It has, however, been totally unsuccessful in achieving any of its
other highly-touted goals.

In the process, it has ruined reception for many thousands of
listeners who wanted to hear some of the weaker, but formerly
perfectly listenable, stations.

The failure (and fraudulent nature) of IBOC, and the earlier failure
of AM stereo (and the frauds and self-deception that plagued that
debacle, too), are symptomatic of the steep decline of what used to
be the most technically advanced society on Earth.

With every good wish,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://nationalvanguard.org/http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You've gotten that perfectly right. A scam right from the start.
Luckily, IBOC has been a failure, as far as consumers are concerned,
and only 150 FM-HD stations have expressed interest in raising power
(only 3 have gone full -10db). So, the vaunted power increase has been
a complete flop. At least now, Struble/iBiquity and the automakers are
under investigation, and I hope that Struble is eventually prosecuted
for criminal fraud. The law firms will at least get him on civil
fraud. Expect class-actions from consumers and broadcasters. I'm sure
many radio listeners have abandoned listening, as IBOC slowly destroys
our airwaves. Listeners will just turn elsewhere for entertainment. I
hope that the corrupt FCC, NPR, and NAB get dragged into the
investigations.
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On Mar 2, 7:33*am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
On 3/2/2011 7:01 AM, RHF wrote:
[...]





IBOC : The Path To HD-Radio Acceptance and Use . . .


Phase One of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 1~5}
Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with very few HD-Radio Receivers :
The Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is both Local and Distant Radio
Station Listening.
* .
Phase Two of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 6~10}
Still a Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with a mixture of *Analog and HD-Radio Receivers :
Still the Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
-but- HD-Radio Listeners Using HD-Radios Do Not
Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is mostly now Local still with some
Distant Radio Station Listening.
* .
Phase Three of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 11~15}
Mostly IBOC Digital Broadcasters with some Analog
and mostly HD-Radio Receivers with some Analog :
Majority is now HD Radio Listeners* Who Are Now
Using HD-Radios and Do Not Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
-and- There still is a few Analog Radio Listeners who still
Notice "The Hash/Buzz" when they do not Listen 'Local'
* Radio Listening is now almost all 'Local' with very little
Distant Radio Station Listening.


NOTE : The AM/FM Radio Station Business Model
is Built-On "Local" Advertising -and- IBOC Forces All
Radio Listening To Be "Local" and Reduces Distant
Radio Listening ~translation~ IBOC Is Good Business.


-note- A Brokered Radio Program on 500 Radio Stations
with an 800# a/o Website is Still "Local" Advertising :
That is simply scaled-up by the means of distribution
to a nation-wide 'localized' market.


and that is the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
* .
* .


I saw the prelude to the entire IBOC debacle from the inside.

IBOC is a brazen scam.

Its primary purpose -- the purpose for which it was designed -- was
to preserve the vast signal superiority of the higher-power FM
stations over their lower-power FM, and AM, competitors. It was
designed specifically to _prevent_, as much as possible, any
increase in relative signal quality or coverage on the part of the
lower power and AM licensees that might otherwise have occurred.

In achieving this goal, IBOC has been quite successful.

It has, however, been totally unsuccessful in achieving any of its
other highly-touted goals.

In the process, it has ruined reception for many thousands of
listeners who wanted to hear some of the weaker, but formerly
perfectly listenable, stations.

The failure (and fraudulent nature) of IBOC, and the earlier failure
of AM stereo (and the frauds and self-deception that plagued that
debacle, too), are symptomatic of the steep decline of what used to
be the most technically advanced society on Earth.

With every good wish,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://nationalvanguard.org/http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


At least my blog is getting the word out, as it sits on Google's
Homepage for searches on "hd radio".


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On 3/2/11 08:59 , SMS wrote:

So far, if you're listening to local stations,
within their protected contour, you're highly unlikely to notice any
interference (at least there have been no valid incidences of it
that have been reported to the FCC),


There have been dozens.



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On Mar 2, 7:51*am, iBiquity Fraudsters
wrote:
On Mar 2, 7:33*am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:



On 3/2/2011 7:01 AM, RHF wrote:
[...]


IBOC : The Path To HD-Radio Acceptance and Use . . .


Phase One of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 1~5}
Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with very few HD-Radio Receivers :
The Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is both Local and Distant Radio
Station Listening.
* .
Phase Two of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 6~10}
Still a Mixture of Analog and IBOC Digital Broadcasters
with a mixture of *Analog and HD-Radio Receivers :
Still the Analog Radio Listeners* Notice "The Hash/Buzz"
-but- HD-Radio Listeners Using HD-Radios Do Not
Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
* Radio Listening is mostly now Local still with some
Distant Radio Station Listening.
* .
Phase Three of IBOC HD-Radio Implementation :
{Years 11~15}
Mostly IBOC Digital Broadcasters with some Analog
and mostly HD-Radio Receivers with some Analog :
Majority is now HD Radio Listeners* Who Are Now
Using HD-Radios and Do Not Hear "The Hash/Buzz"
-and- There still is a few Analog Radio Listeners who still
Notice "The Hash/Buzz" when they do not Listen 'Local'
* Radio Listening is now almost all 'Local' with very little
Distant Radio Station Listening.


NOTE : The AM/FM Radio Station Business Model
is Built-On "Local" Advertising -and- IBOC Forces All
Radio Listening To Be "Local" and Reduces Distant
Radio Listening ~translation~ IBOC Is Good Business.


-note- A Brokered Radio Program on 500 Radio Stations
with an 800# a/o Website is Still "Local" Advertising :
That is simply scaled-up by the means of distribution
to a nation-wide 'localized' market.


and that is the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
* .
* .


I saw the prelude to the entire IBOC debacle from the inside.


IBOC is a brazen scam.


Its primary purpose -- the purpose for which it was designed -- was
to preserve the vast signal superiority of the higher-power FM
stations over their lower-power FM, and AM, competitors. It was
designed specifically to _prevent_, as much as possible, any
increase in relative signal quality or coverage on the part of the
lower power and AM licensees that might otherwise have occurred.


In achieving this goal, IBOC has been quite successful.


It has, however, been totally unsuccessful in achieving any of its
other highly-touted goals.


In the process, it has ruined reception for many thousands of
listeners who wanted to hear some of the weaker, but formerly
perfectly listenable, stations.


The failure (and fraudulent nature) of IBOC, and the earlier failure
of AM stereo (and the frauds and self-deception that plagued that
debacle, too), are symptomatic of the steep decline of what used to
be the most technically advanced society on Earth.


With every good wish,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://nationalvanguard.org/http://kevinalfredstrom.com/-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


At least my blog is getting the word out, as it sits on Google's
Homepage for searches on "hd radio".


Your Are NOTHING !

Hope and Change of HD-Radio Lives On !

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On Mar 2, 9:36*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 3/2/11 08:59 , SMS wrote:

So far, if you're listening to local stations,

within their protected contour, you're highly unlikely to notice any
interference (at least there have been no valid incidences of it
that have been reported to the FCC),


- *There have been dozens.

DPM : Yes There Have Been Dozens :
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 . . .
an over and over again . . . . . .
{A Dozen Times A Dozen Times Over}
? BUT WHAT IS THE TOTAL POPULATION ?
-of-radio-listeners-of-the-300+-million americans-
- who-listen-to-the-radio-daily-?-?-?-

Dozens Out of Thousands {Whats The Percentage?}

Dozens Out of Tens of Thousands {Whats The Percentage?}

Dozens Out of Tens of Thousands {Whats The Percentage?}

Dozens Out of Hundreds of Thousands {Whats The Percentage?}

Dozens Out of Millions {Whats The Percentage?}

The FCC is interested in the Numbers Game {Percentages}

One Sigma : 68% = 2 out of 3 Radio Listeners
Say It's Good : An Improvement
~translation~ Good Decision & Step Forward

Two Sigma : 95% = 19 out of 20 Radio Listeners
Say It's Good : A Real Improvement That They Like
~translation~ Excellent Government Policy & Technology

Three Sigma : Dream On ! -rotfl-

and that's the way i see it ~ RHF
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