Damn Damn Damn, Wondering If... ? It's Global Warming a/o Cooling! -or-just-a-myth-
 

On Apr 3, 5:17*am, RHF wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:37*pm, wrote:

On Apr 1, 12:08*am, wrote:

I don't know if it is True, or not, but I once read somewhere that Owles
are the Dumbest of all Birds.

Fits Dumb Ass Owle 'Global Warming' Gourdhead to a T.

How come that 'Clobal Warming' MOFO Dumb Bird *has Shut Up?
cuhulin

May be the 'Global Warming' is a total hoax . Amongst many other
popular 'trends',e.g. Y2K , NAFTA , 'organic food' etc. etc. etc.

World Wide Climate Change last millennium, this
millennium, and next millennium is very real.

The 'suspect' part is that Mankind is presently the
prime cause of it all today. Looking a hundred years
back and a hundred years forward.

The highly 'suspicious' part is that the USA and Europe
must do something about it : By Implementing Energy
Use Cut-Backs and Energy Use 'Carbon' Taxes
-while- China's 1.3B and India's 1B don't have to do
anything -and- the Rest of the World continues to
Pollute unabated.

the 'myth' of global warming/cooling
is that it is man made - imho ~ RHF
*.
*.

India's last census count is : 1B 210M 193 422 . They might overtake
China in a matter of just a few years .

It's Global Warming
 

On Apr 3, 7:43*am, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:

The 'suspect' part is that Mankind is presently the
prime cause of it all today. Looking a hundred years
back and a hundred years forward.

The highly 'suspicious' part is that the USA and Europe
must do something about it : By Implementing Energy
Use Cut-Backs and Energy Use 'Carbon' Taxes
-while- China's 1.3B and India's 1B don't have to do
anything -and- the Rest of the World continues to
Pollute unabated.

the 'myth' of global warming/cooling
is that it is man made - imho ~ RHF

Nothing "kind" about man.

India and China are busting ass on renewables; we should be ashamed. The
only people who think they aren't are the morons who get their news from
TV and AM radio.

Amplitude modulation has been used for many,many years : by shortwave
broadcasters, by hams, by.....by....... everyone and his uncle . MW
broadcasts are not restricted to just local consumption . BTW, where
does Dave get 'His News' ???

June Gloom on April the 2th
 

On Apr 3, 7:52*am, dave wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:17 PM, wrote:

On Apr 2, 8:45 pm, *wrote:
I can tell food is organic by the way it tastes and looks.

I presume you believe your TV because you said global warming is a hoax.

Damn Damn Damn
 

On Apr 3, 2:53*pm, Hils wrote:
wrote:
Come on doggy, lets go front yard and poo poo pee pee.

The fine spring weather has encouraged me to go out walking. Many of the
local streets and public parks are covered by dog fouling bye-laws, with
notices reminding people that dog wardens are patrolling the area and
can fine them if they don't clean up after their pooch etc etc. There
are more dog poo bins in the area than regular litter bins, yet some of
my fellow citizens have adopted a strange way of dealing with their dog
poo. The first choice is clearly to scoop it up and put it in one of the
bins which are never more than a few minutes walk away. The second
choice is to leave it where it is: in winter it stays for ages, in
summer it stinks, but eventually nature's little microbes take care of
it and it disappears.

The third and strangest choice is to pick up their dog's poo in a
shopping bag or nappy bag... and hang it from a tree branch.

What are they thinking? That a council official patrols every public
area each day, collecting all the little bags of **** they have left
hanging? Have they not noticed dozens of the bags they have already
left, festooning trees and shrubs throughout the neighbourhood?

Perhaps the local council should make a determined effort to track down
the phantom poo-hangers, and send them a bill for the cost of hiring
someone to clear up after them. £30,000 a year, on top of the existing
tax for local services, should do the job. After all, removing
ornamental poo-bags is at least as skilled a job as hanging them.

It is becoming a serious problem over here in the last few years . The
streets are full of dogs' excrements and it is simply dangerous to
walk without looking under your feet ! Some dog owners think it is
their constitutional right to pollute anywhere and everywhwere ...

Damn Damn Damn, Wondering If... ? It's Global Warming a/o Cooli...
 

On Apr 3, 4:39*pm, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 07:38 AM, wrote:

Waco Fat Ho Burgers is quite a considerable distance from Fort Hood.I am
too lazy to look it up in my Rand McNally Road Atlas right now.You look
it up.I have been to Waco before and I spent from the first of January
1965 to October 29,1965 at Fort Hood.I reckon I know it's quite a ways
from Fort Hood to Waco.Killeen would be considered the 'Gateway' to Fort
Hood, ergo Killeen is next door to Fort Hood.You email or phone Fort
Hood and you email or phone Killeen and you ask them.Don't just take my
word for it, ''expert''.
cuhulin, the Fort Hood/Killeen
............................................
You just gotta Luv it, sooooooooo many ''experts'' out there!
............................................

I used to work in a titty bar in Killeen.

??? What ??? And what was your job title there ???

The Earth Goes Through Cycles of Global Warming and GlobalCooling and Man Adapts...
 

On Apr 3, 4:04*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/3/2011 5:17 AM, RHF wrote:

the 'myth' of global warming/cooling
is that it is man made - imho ~ RHF

On Apr 3, 6:34 am, Joe from *wrote:

Man made is a 'myth'?

1) Are you denying the laws of chemistry by saying that carbon dioxide
is not a greenhouse gas?

2) Are you denying that we (the human race) are continually putting more
and more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? (especially as China and
India demand more cars and demand more electricity)

Sorry, but CO2 *IS* a greenhouse gas (which DOES cause warming -- that's
why they call it 'greenhouse') and we *ARE* putting more and more CO2
into the atmosphere.

- Sorry, tap dance all you want, but that sure looks man made to me.

On 4/3/2011 4:21 PM, RHF wrote:

Yes 'some' CO2 is Man-Made and More CO2 Ain't !

Your Man-Made x% does not Out-Weigh the Earths
Own Cyclic* XX%

So, you are suggesting we can just keep pouring an unlimited amount of
CO2 into the atmosphere with impunity?

Nice tap dance, but no cigar.

No Since China ans Soon India will be Surpassing
the USA Europe and Japan in GHG / CO2 Pollution :
They Too Should Be Required to Stop / Not Start [.]
IT IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM : NOT A USA ONLY PROBLEM

First : Regressive Wealth Transfer Taxes are Not the Answer !
* NOT BY EXCESSIVE ENERGY USE TAXES
THAT'S WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION ! {ECO-SOCIALISM}
-say-no-no-no-to-more-obama-taxes-taxes-taxes-

Second : Cleaner Energy and More Efficient Energy
Use is the Answer : Not Cap-and-Trade
* NOT BY CUTTING REDUCING ENERGY USE
THAT'S ENERGY REDISTRIBUTION ! {ECO-FASCISM}
-say-yes-yes-yes-to-more-cleaner-and better-energy-

The Earth Goes Through Cycles of Global Warming and GlobalCoolingand Man Adapts...
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote:

On 4/3/11 18:04 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 4/3/2011 5:17 AM, RHF wrote:

the 'myth' of global warming/cooling
is that it is man made - imho ~ RHF

On Apr 3, 6:34 am, Joe from wrote:

Man made is a 'myth'?

1) Are you denying the laws of chemistry by saying that carbon
dioxide
is not a greenhouse gas?

2) Are you denying that we (the human race) are continually
putting more
and more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? (especially as China and
India demand more cars and demand more electricity)

Sorry, but CO2 *IS* a greenhouse gas (which DOES cause warming --
that's
why they call it 'greenhouse') and we *ARE* putting more and more
CO2
into the atmosphere.

- Sorry, tap dance all you want, but that sure looks man made to me.

On 4/3/2011 4:21 PM, RHF wrote:

Yes 'some' CO2 is Man-Made and More CO2 Ain't !

Your Man-Made x% does not Out-Weigh the Earths
Own Cyclic* XX%

So, you are suggesting we can just keep pouring an unlimited amount
of CO2 into the atmosphere with impunity?

Nice tap dance, but no cigar.

No, what he's saying is that the amount of man-released CO2 into
the atmosphere is trivial compared to what is released from natural
sources...most notably from volcanism.

One volcano is capable of releasing more CO2, as well as
sulphurous oxides into the atmosphere than man has ever released.

Mt St Helens, for instance, released more trash into the
atmosphere in 24 hours than all of mankinds pollution since he first
stepped from the trees combined. Krakatoa orders of magnitude more.

Volcanism is a state of being on the planet. There are active
volcanoes releasing greenhouse gasses every day of very year and
have been since the planet cooled from the primordial mass.

Mankind's total historic contribution is not even a measurable
fraction of that mass.

In fact, the greatest store of CO2 on the planet is in the seas.
And when the planet warms, due to solar heating, there is a release
of CO2. And it's been like this since the seas were formed. The
dramatic hockey stick curve marking an increase in CO2 is a symptom,
not a cause. If it were a cause, the period of extreme warming seen
about the time of the launch of Leif Eriksson would have resulted in
a peak temperature that would begun to approach Venus.

Here's something else. If CO2 were a cause of warming, the
increasing biomass, human and animal, exhaling CO2, would have
raised the temperatures sufficiently to release oceanic CO2
sufficient to abate the period of extreme cooling around the time of
the Revolution resulting from the Maunder minimum, at which time the
decrease of UV reaching the earth caused global cooling on an
unprecendented scale, achieving some of the lowest average
temperatures since the first half of the Quaternary Ice Age.

But why pick on CO2? It's total partial pressure in the
atmosphere is, itself, trivial. And it's by far the least present
greenhouse gas. Why not pick on the more plentiful greenhouse
gasses. The primary greenhouse gas being water vapor, which has been
more or less constant throughout the millenia since the first oxygen
was released from the rocks. There's more water vapor in the
atmosphere at any one moment, than there will ever be CO2 produced
by man throughout his existence. And yet, we ignore that. Why?

Conveniently, because governments can't tax it.

It is a political convenience that this global climatic
catastrophe has coincided with the rise in eco-political activism.
And very convenient for those who can and will profit from this
movement. I don't need to mention any names, but he's refused to
debate this issue, made hundreds of millions of dollars dealing in
approbations based on it, has sold carbon credits to himself, used
energy at 10 times the rate of his own constituents, and has
increased his own energy usage, and carbon output by an order of
magnitude, while insisting at every turn that we have a moral
obligation to curtail our own energy usage.

Sound familiar?

Meanwhile, the President you despise more than Satan, himself, Mr
Bush, has built a home with such low ecological impact that it's
considered the state of the art. Using 10th the energy of his
neighbors, and 1/100th the energy of our favorite global warming
evangelist. Look it up, if you have the nerve.

Moreover, the temperature hasn't risen, according to NOAA, since
1998. And in fact, 1997 and 1998, the years presented as the warmest
in the 20th century, are actually not even close to the hottest year
according to scientific meteorological records, as released by the
US Government: 1934.

Meteorological normalcy is, and always has been a myth. The one
constant in meteorology is: change. The one constant in climatic
reality is: change.

Global temperatures vary with the sunspot cycle. There are also
periodic variations in solar output (Sol IS a variable star),
confirmed by core samples taken at the Earth's poles.

The variations in global temperatures have cyclic periods, and
predictable patterns. And all of natural cause.

The only 'crisis' in the entire Global Warming debate is: How
long will it be before, and what are the consequences after, the
myth crashes around the proponents' ears.

If you want to really know what the long term picture of global
climate really looks like, take a look at the history of where the
world's wine has been grown. It's moving south. The great vintages
at the south of France were transplanted from Scotland, where some
of the greatest wines in earlier history have been produced. But no
longer because of the cooling climate.

Eriksson names his landing in Nova Scotia Vinland because of the
acres upon acres of natural grapevines that grew there. Miles upon
miles of them.

But no more. Because of the cooling climate.

Look at where wine has historically been grown. You'll see a
pattern of migration to southern latitudes, because the climates
have cooled too much for wine grape production over the centuries.

Look it up.

Unless you're really less interested in the truth than pounding
your fist in the face of those who live in a manner inconsistent
with your preferences.

Which raises the REAL question.....

Do you object because they do it? Or because they can afford it?

Have a good evening Joe. You may begin your fantasy response, now.

I'm looking forward to his, and others, fantasy response!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

The Earth Goes Through Cycles of Global Warming and Global Coolingand Man Adapts...
 

On Apr 3, 1:52*pm, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 01:21 PM, RHF wrote:



JfK -suggest- That You Get Better Glasses !

Yes 'some' CO2 is Man-Made and More CO2 Ain't !

Your Man-Made x% does not Out-Weigh the Earths
Own Cyclic* XX%

Actually it does. If you look at the very tip of the hockey stick on top
of the solar variation you'll see that instead of wobbling, then
starting back down, this warm phase is still wobbling at the top, making
this warm period way longer than any others in the record. Just look at
the graphs.

http://blog.world-mysteries.com/wp-c.../11/ice_age_gr...

Dave : Could It Be... Is It Possible... That We Are
In An 'Unprecedented' Period of Scientific Warning*
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9de836018fccec
* Pseudo-Science Hysteria !

China leads the way in renewable enrgy
 

On 04/04/2011 02:50 AM, RHF wrote:


No Since China ans Soon India will be Surpassing
the USA Europe and Japan in GHG / CO2 Pollution :
They Too Should Be Required to Stop / Not Start [.]
IT IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM : NOT A USA ONLY PROBLEM


http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/b...ble-energy-use

China is beating the U.S. in the race to supply clean-energy
technologies to the world, helped by a government bank whose advisers
include Henry Kissinger.

China Development Bank Corp., which listed the former U.S. secretary of
state as an advisory board member in a 2010 bond prospectus, agreed last
year to lend $35.4 billion to Chinese wind and solar power companies.
The U.S. gave about $4 billion to their American competitors in grants
and offered about $16 billion of loan guarantees. Adding in private
investment, China also led.

CDB, which has almost twice the assets of the World Bank, is matching
U.S. expertise with Chinese financing and manufacturing prowess to
dominate a market both nations say is critical to their future. Chinese
solar-panel makers such as LDK Solar Co. Ltd. were the biggest loan
recipients and for the first time last year supplied more than half the
global market, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance, which began
its annual conference Sunday in New York.

"What China's doing is really smart," said Jon Anda, vice chairman of
UBS AG's securities unit in Stamford, Conn. "Without a clear policy
path, we'll get crushed."

The Earth Goes Through Cycles of Global Warming and Global Coolingand Man Adapts...
 

On 04/03/2011 06:28 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Eriksson names his landing in Nova Scotia Vinland because of the acres
upon acres of natural grapevines that grew there. Miles upon miles of them.

But no more. Because of the cooling climate.

Look at where wine has historically been grown. You'll see a pattern of
migration to southern latitudes, because the climates have cooled too
much for wine grape production over the centuries.

Look it up.

Are you sure he wasn't talking about wild berries?

http://www.winesofcanada.com/nfld.html