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Wrong . He was claimed to be dead FOUR times before the heavily
publicized 2011 'death' ...

No he wasn't. Moron twoofers running around the past few years
claiming UBL was dead doesn't actually constitute a legitimate claim.
It's just your own echo chamber rattling back your insanities at you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm

Thursday, 18 July, 2002, 09:15 GMT 10:15 UK
Bin Laden 'probably' dead

The US Federal Bureau of Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale
Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead.

(Moron twoofer?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ma-Bin-Laden-d...

The theory first received an airing in the American Spectator magazine
earlier this year when former U.S. foreign intelligence officer and
senior editor Angelo M. Codevilla, a professor of international
relations at Boston University, stated bluntly: 'All the evidence
suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.'

(Moron twoofer?)

There are other doubters, too. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke
University's religious studies' department and the foremost Bin Laden
expert, argues that the increasingly secular language in the video and
audio tapes of Osama (his earliest ones are littered with references to
God and the Prophet Mohammed) are inconsistent with his strict Islamic
religion, Wahhabism.

(Moron twoofer?)

This week, still more questions have been raised with the publication in
America and Britain of a book called Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?

Written by political analyst and philosopher Professor David Ray
Griffin, former emeritus professor at California's Claremont School of
Theology, it is provoking shock waves - for it goes into far more detail
about his supposed death and suggests there has been a cover-up by the West.

The book claims that Bin Laden died of kidney failure, or a linked
complaint, on December 13, 2001, while living in Afghanistan's Tora Bora
mountains close to the border with Waziristan.

His burial took place within 24 hours, in line with Muslim religious
rules, and in an unmarked grave, which is a Wahhabi custom.

(Moron twoofer?)

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Yes, all obviously were wrong.

But were they, to quote your claim, "Moron twoofers"?

So it would seem, dip****, since UBL was alive and well.

Oh, so they have all published additional material which qualifies as
911 "twoof"?

Care to CITE those publications?

Don't you
feel stupid even bringing it up?

Not really, I mean citing the FBI's own "counter-terrorism chief" isn't
exactly a weak resource, now is it?

Well...IS it?

Hint: You have nothing.

I have timely cites OF the day.

You have hindsight.

Hint - hindsight can NEVER rewrite history.

Cope.

You keep citing people's OPINIONS as FACTS.

The only "fact" I have stated is that THESE people are NOT "Moron twoofers".

Care to DISPUTE that?

Do you normally have such trouble separating fiction from reality?

No, that seems to be your dissonance.

chuckle

Time for you to put up or shut up, how many of these resources can you
quantify as "Moron twoofers"?

This is grand hilarity, enjoy turning on my rotisserie spit, you silly twit.

Sad and pathetic little protests of yours, drowning in the sea of
TRUTH.

Nothing you would have bathed in...

The FACT that I have proven all my claims and debunked yours sort of
makes you look like a silly little boy here, kooker. you're circling
the drain.

Your claim was that all these people who said bin Laden was dead are
"Moron twoofers".

They are.

So you claim the FBI's counter-terrorism chief is a "twoofer", is that
your final answer?

I state again, you have NOT proved that and even you are not foolish
enough to call the FBI's counter-terrorism chief a "Moron twoofer".

He did not claim that UBL was dead.

He said "probably dead", which in the absence of a corpus delecti is the
same thing.

I said, as you noted, that those
who claim he was dead before he was killed are moron twoofers. This is
beyond dispute. People who expressed opinions or guessed that he might
be dead prior to his actually being dead are not claiming he was dead.

Pathetic squirm.

Please acquire some comprehension skills and I might not have to
repeatedly kick your stupid ass.

Game over.

And I won.

"Former U.S. foreign intelligence officer and senior editor Angelo M.
Codevilla" is a "twofer" too?

Hint: You lose, and you lose big-time.

I do?!???

Well, uh, yeah.

Only in your delusions.

In reality. You are deluded.

You are a serial liar.

You have cited NOTHING except people expressing GUESSES and OPINIONS.

You called them "Moron twoofers".

As they are if they claimed UBL was already dead.. Obviously, he was
not.

So you are publicly stating that Dale Watson is a "Moron twoofer"?

Is that your FINAL answer?

I think you have no clue what constitutes a "twoofer".

Is that definitive applicable to the head of the FBI's own
counter-terrorism unit?

Eh?

Is it????

He did not claim UBL was dead, fuzznuts.

Ah so now the real squirming begins...

By you.

More lies from you.

he said he was "probably dead".

THANK YOU for kicking your own ass and saving me the effort. You just
admitted you were wrong.

Nope.

I just showed you credentialed insiders believed him to be dead and said
as much.

He was guessing.

Nope, a "guess" is an uneducated speculation.

The people I listed were educated analysts.

He was not asserting a claim, you ****in' moron. NOW
that you have kicked your own ass, do you see where you made your
error?

And what of:

Angelo M. Codevilla, a professor of international
relations at Boston University, stated bluntly: 'All the evidence
Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.'

(Moron twoofer?)

So we can say he was "probably" wrong.

We can say he was, in fact, since UBL was only recently killed.

Allegedly, as we yet lack any verifiable physical evidence.

But you will NEVER indict him as a "twoofer".

Why would I? He isn't. He didn't claim UBL was dead. YOU claimed that
he said that but now you admit he did not say that.

His claim, sans a corpse, was that he was "probably dead".

His claim was totally unambiguous.

So stop trying.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAHAAA!!! You're begging for mercy when I now have you
backtracking so deliciously? No quarter, dearie.

Angelo M. Codevilla, a professor of international
relations at Boston University, stated bluntly: 'All the evidence
Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.'

EPIC FAIL.

Yours, yes.

Nope, yours. Not in dispute.

Sorry you made claims you can't prove,

I proved them of course, and you just changed your claim and admitted
you lied.

Written by political analyst and philosopher Professor David Ray
Griffin, former emeritus professor at California's Claremont School of
Theology, it is provoking shock waves - for it goes into far more detail
about his supposed death and suggests there has been a cover-up by the West.

The book claims that Bin Laden died of kidney failure, or a linked
complaint, on December 13, 2001, while living in Afghanistan's Tora Bora
mountains close to the border with Waziristan.
His burial took place within 24 hours, in line with Muslim religious
rules, and in an unmarked grave, which is a Wahhabi custom.

(Moron twoofer?)


sad it troubles you so much you
can never admit it.

I admit I kicked your ass as you now overtly admit.

Written by political analyst and philosopher Professor David Ray
Griffin, former emeritus professor at California's Claremont School of
Theology, it is provoking shock waves - for it goes into far more detail
about his supposed death and suggests there has been a cover-up by the West.

The book claims that Bin Laden died of kidney failure, or a linked
complaint, on December 13, 2001, while living in Afghanistan's Tora Bora
mountains close to the border with Waziristan.
His burial took place within 24 hours, in line with Muslim religious
rules, and in an unmarked grave, which is a Wahhabi custom.

(Moron twoofer?)

The fact that we killed UBL last month sorta means you're an idiot and
he was not dead before that.

The "fact" changes nothing in hindsight. At each stage of his tape
dissemination there have been credible governmental experts who claimed
that the tapes we

a. not him

b. composites

c. old recordings

No there weren't.

You really do like getting your ass kicked:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm

Researchers in Switzerland have questioned the authenticity of the
recent audio recording attributed to Osama Bin Laden.

A team from the Lausanne-based Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual
Artificial Intelligence, Idiap, said it was 95% certain the tape does
not feature the voice of the al-Qaeda leader.

And thereby questioned if he was still alive.

Thank you for ADMITTING once again that they did not CLAIM that he was
dead, as you originally LIED.

Probably dead = probably not alive = unambiguous.

Also:

Angelo M. Codevilla, a professor of international
relations at Boston University, stated bluntly: 'All the evidence
Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.'



The people who did this
were not "twoofers" they were defense analysts and that was there
considered expert opinion at THOSE times.

O-P-I-N-I-O-N

EXPERT "opinion".

Suggest you have mommy explain to you the difference between stating
an opinion and asserting a claim.

(You're making this WAAAAAAY to easy for me!)

You're spinning like a top now.

Nothing you can say here will rewrite history,

Nor would I want to since history backs up my claims and contradicts
yours, as you yourself just backtracked.

Nope, credible experts made statement indicating he was dead, cope.

so just quit acting like
a petulant child.

I just kicked your whiny goal-post-shifting ass, moron.

It was easy.

You did what you always do when trapped, spin, obfuscate, lie and deny.

Whose payroll are you on anyway?
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