On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On 2011-06-09 00:20, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether,

If that pleases you. And its aether, troll.

same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

You don't say...

On 6/8/2011 9:26 PM, Olrik wrote:
On 2011-06-09 00:20, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether,

If that pleases you. And its aether, troll.

same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

You don't say...

Noted, "Remained in error until the end." For what it's worth ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On 2011-06-09 00:33, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:26 PM, Olrik wrote:
On 2011-06-09 00:20, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the
speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether,

If that pleases you. And its aether, troll.

same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

You don't say...

Noted, "Remained in error until the end."

Whose quote is that from, John Smith?

On Jun 9, 12:20*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

There are six (!) theories of the visible light propagation . Can you
name any of them ?

On Jun 8, 9:32*pm, wrote:
On Jun 9, 12:20*am, John Smith wrote:









On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

There are six (!) theories of the visible light propagation . Can you
name any of them ?

http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern...nts/vacuum.htm
LHC "Ultrahigh beam vacuum 10-10 Torr (~3 million molecules/cm3) , we
want to avoid collisions with gas molecules"

3e6 molecules/cm3 seems fairly populated, not to mention whatever
trillions upon trillions upon trillions of mostly invisible photons
are likely involved.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.

Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:00:27 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.

Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...

You know less about Einstein than you do about SR and GR; I
didn't think that was possible. And your out-of-context
quote mining, when Einstein himself said he didn't believe
in a personal deity, is indicative of your basic dishonesty.

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)

And BTW, "spacetime" was Einstein's idea.

HTH, and HANL; I'm through trying to educate you.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

On 6/10/2011 12:06 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:00:27 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.

Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...

You know less about Einstein than you do about SR and GR; I
didn't think that was possible. And your out-of-context
quote mining, when Einstein himself said he didn't believe
in a personal deity, is indicative of your basic dishonesty.

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)

And BTW, "spacetime" was Einstein's idea.

HTH, and HANL; I'm through trying to educate you.

Actually, spacetime = ether.

There is no such thing as time, there is only movement, distance and
position ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry