Volker Tonn wrote:

DxAce schrieb:

I have but one thing to say... Sieg Heil

Come over here and tell this on the street and you will be imprisoned
immediately. Stil fiddling around with the dial...

Yes, still a bit touchy about WWII over there.

Barry Carlton schrieb:

I don't hate America.. I certainly don't agree with some of the things that
your country has done, nor many things that my own country has done, but
that didn't mean that I hate them.

Also am I not a leftist. I do wonder why the assumption that pacifism must
somehow be coupled to leftism is made so frequently.

Full ACK. I live in germany and I know what "history has done badly" to
my parents and and parents in law's families.
Some years back when I travelled USA southwest I met lots of people and
almost all of them were lack of knowing even the basic history of their
own country.... Not to speak from anything actually was happening in the
world. They had simply not an idea of it. They were all VERY friendly
people -running with blinders-. So some shortwave listeners in the US
are a great exception on this.

Volker

N8KDV schrieb:

Volker Tonn wrote:


DxAce schrieb:


I have but one thing to say... Sieg Heil

Come over here and tell this on the street and you will be imprisoned
immediately. Stil fiddling around with the dial...


Yes, still a bit touchy about WWII over there.


Wrong! (No, I don't call you a liar!) Not touchy on WW2 but VERY
sensible on national-socialistic minds and provinding NS. WW2 and
(provinding) NS are very different things. For sure it's merely mixed up
in not detailed (hi)story books.
And calling "Sieg, Heil" is one thing, NS-minded are outing themthelves
with. I only tell ya... Now you can get on calling "Sieg, Heil" and
people will know what's mind you are -or keep it-.

Volker Tonn wrote:

N8KDV schrieb:

Volker Tonn wrote:


DxAce schrieb:


I have but one thing to say... Sieg Heil

Come over here and tell this on the street and you will be imprisoned
immediately. Stil fiddling around with the dial...


Yes, still a bit touchy about WWII over there.


Wrong! (No, I don't call you a liar!) Not touchy on WW2 but VERY
sensible on national-socialistic minds and provinding NS. WW2 and
(provinding) NS are very different things. For sure it's merely mixed up
in not detailed (hi)story books.
And calling "Sieg, Heil" is one thing, NS-minded are outing themthelves
with. I only tell ya... Now you can get on calling "Sieg, Heil" and
people will know what's mind you are -or keep it-.

You totally missed the reason I mentioned Sieg Heil...

But I'll let it go at that!

Why not? Worked here.

"Robert Beck" wrote in message
...
Spain is about to prove that a terror attack can get countries to act
as you wish. Thanks Spain

In article ,
Volker Tonn wrote:

Barry Carlton schrieb:

I don't hate America.. I certainly don't agree with some of the
things that your country has done, nor many things that my own
country has done, but that didn't mean that I hate them.

Also am I not a leftist. I do wonder why the assumption that
pacifism must somehow be coupled to leftism is made so frequently.

Full ACK. I live in germany and I know what "history has done badly"
to my parents and and parents in law's families. Some years back when
I travelled USA southwest I met lots of people and almost all of them
were lack of knowing even the basic history of their own country....
Not to speak from anything actually was happening in the world. They
had simply not an idea of it. They were all VERY friendly people
-running with blinders-. So some shortwave listeners in the US are a
great exception on this.

The continental US is large and composed 50 states. That is many states
that have their own issues to keep track of similar in scale to all of
Europe. Plenty of news and commerce to keep anyone occupied is
generated here. The rest of the world despite technology is still much
farther away and has less influence on their lives. So what else would
you expect from them?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:47:26 +1000, "Barry Carlton"
wrote:


"DxAce" wrote in message
...

That would appear to be the case at this time. And when the terrorists
realise that what they do works, they'll just keep at it.
And why not ?

They've learned from the United States that the indescriminate killing of
civilians in a foreign land can be a remarkably effective way of achieving
your goals (excluding Vietnam).




Your comments leave me at a loss for words. The stupidity of your
answer leaves but one response:

Eat **** and Die

Yeah, your damn right. And by golly we americans are gonna make the rest of
the world live in freedom whether they want to or not!

"Barry Carlton" wrote in message
But I was thinking more along the lines of recent history, with the likes of
Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam (which didn't work out as well as you'd hoped of
course), Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy, Lebanon

There would of course me more countries included if the activities of
agencies such as the CIA or US installed puppet governments were also
included, rather than just the US military.

I guess your right since Australia is made up primarily of the
ancestors of Britians convicts. So the aussies are probably well
versed in violance.

"Barry Carlton" wrote in message
No. Australia.

We also has more than its fair share of blood on its hands. We have been
alongside you engaging in many of the same atrocities, and I believe that we
will also wind up with the same result.

Violence is never justified, but that is not always so easily understood by
those who have been subject to it.

What if they just wanted a change of government?

So in the newspeak "war" to protect what we call democracy these days, we
can't just accept the result of an election for what it is?

Pete

"Robert Beck" wrote in message
...
Spain is about to prove that a terror attack can get countries to act
as you wish. Thanks Spain