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Old April 2nd 04, 03:32 AM
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Do you think the NTE-312 would perform the same as the 2SK152?


The NTE-312 is the cross for 2SK152. They should be
electrically identical, and should perform as such.


Well, not exactly. It's the closest match NTE has to the 2SK152, and
"should" function in most circuits. That isn't to say it is an exact
replacement. The NTE device may have a higher noise figure, for example,
which could be obvious on the higher bands. This company in Ireland claims
to be selling the 2SK152 for 62 US cents apiece:
http://www.donberg.ie/descript/2/2sk152.htm

The J310 FET is pretty good, and available from Kits & Parts, and either
Mouser or DigiKey; I can't remember who I got mine from. The price is right
and it might be worth buying several and swapping them in for best
performance.

"PM"


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Old April 2nd 04, 04:43 PM
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Do you think the NTE-312 would perform the same as the 2SK152?


The NTE-312 is the cross for 2SK152. They should be
electrically identical, and should perform as such.


Well, not exactly. It's the closest match NTE has to the 2SK152, and
"should" function in most circuits. That isn't to say it is an exact
replacement. The NTE device may have a higher noise figure, for example,
which could be obvious on the higher bands. This company in Ireland claims
to be selling the 2SK152 for 62 US cents apiece:
http://www.donberg.ie/descript/2/2sk152.htm

The J310 FET is pretty good, and available from Kits & Parts, and either
Mouser or DigiKey; I can't remember who I got mine from. The price is right
and it might be worth buying several and swapping them in for best
performance.

"PM"


Why is the 2SK152 so rare?


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Paul_Morphy wrote:

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Do you think the NTE-312 would perform the same as the 2SK152?

The NTE-312 is the cross for 2SK152. They should be
electrically identical, and should perform as such.


Well, not exactly. It's the closest match NTE has to the 2SK152, and
"should" function in most circuits. That isn't to say it is an exact
replacement. The NTE device may have a higher noise figure, for example,
which could be obvious on the higher bands. This company in Ireland claims
to be selling the 2SK152 for 62 US cents apiece:
http://www.donberg.ie/descript/2/2sk152.htm

The J310 FET is pretty good, and available from Kits & Parts, and either
Mouser or DigiKey; I can't remember who I got mine from. The price is right
and it might be worth buying several and swapping them in for best
performance.

"PM"


Why is the 2SK152 so rare?

It may be location.

That uses the Japanese numbering scheme (the "SK"), and for whatever
reasons they tend to arrive and be used in North America as replacement
parts in Japanese made equipment that uses them in the first place. Hobby
circles and repair circles don't always overlap (the less so as the years
go by), so many of the places hobbyists can get devices (more specically
buy things without having to buy the item in large quantities or order
a large order of parts) don't carry them. They aren't normally used
in construction articles over here, so such places don't bother with them,
which of course reinforces the lack of interest.

They may be a very common device in Japan (and maybe other parts of the world
that Japanese parts dominate), but they aren't over here.

Michael

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Old April 2nd 04, 07:22 PM
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They may be a very common device in Japan (and maybe other parts of the

world
that Japanese parts dominate), but they aren't over here.


There have been so many types of transistors made over the years, it would
be impossible to stock them all. It's going to get harder in the future, as
manufacturing moves to multi-function integrated circuits and surface-mount
components. Stock up!

"PM"


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Old April 2nd 04, 07:26 PM
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They may be a very common device in Japan (and maybe other parts of the

world
that Japanese parts dominate), but they aren't over here.


There have been so many types of transistors made over the years, it would
be impossible to stock them all. It's going to get harder in the future, as
manufacturing moves to multi-function integrated circuits and surface-mount
components. Stock up!

"PM"


Yes, I was caught up in explaining why that particular transistor might
be "rare".

The same thing really applies to most transistors. There are a handful
of transistors that are common enough for hobby distributors to carry,
and if anyone picked one off that list, it would be perceived as "rare".
It's both a cause and effect, since the construction articles tend to
use the devices that are commonly available, which makes sure the hobby
distributors carry those devices.

Someone in this thread suggested an MPF102 as a replacement, though
at least added that it might not be the best choice. THat probably
rates as the most recognizable JFET in North America, so whenever FET
is mentioned, it would tend to get suggested.

Michael




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Someone in this thread suggested an MPF102 as a replacement, though
at least added that it might not be the best choice. THat probably
rates as the most recognizable JFET in North America, so whenever FET
is mentioned, it would tend to get suggested.


Yeah, it's as common as Budweiser. He needs to send his money to the land of
Guinness and get the real thing. Ain't the internet great? You can sit here
in the U.S. and buy Japanese transistors from a dealer in Ireland. The
semiconductor cartel knows no boundaries.

"PM"


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Old April 4th 04, 07:37 PM
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In article , starman wrote:
Paul_Morphy wrote:

"N3KCT" wrote in message
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Do you think the NTE-312 would perform the same as the 2SK152?

The NTE-312 is the cross for 2SK152. They should be
electrically identical, and should perform as such.


Well, not exactly. It's the closest match NTE has to the 2SK152, and
"should" function in most circuits. That isn't to say it is an exact
replacement. The NTE device may have a higher noise figure, for example,
which could be obvious on the higher bands. This company in Ireland claims
to be selling the 2SK152 for 62 US cents apiece:
http://www.donberg.ie/descript/2/2sk152.htm


NTE doesn't make anything, they just buy parts that are normally
not available in the US or at end of life, and then mark them up
by a factor of eight or so and sell them to the repair market.
They are a way for an independent electronics dealer (not that
there are many of those still around) to stock semiconductors
from the distribtution channel.

The J310 FET is pretty good, and available from Kits & Parts, and either
Mouser or DigiKey; I can't remember who I got mine from. The price is right
and it might be worth buying several and swapping them in for best
performance.

"PM"


Why is the 2SK152 so rare?


It is/was a proprietary Sony part. The datasheet says it was
designed for read amplifers in VCRs, so maybe there's some out
there that can obtained from scrap Betamax's.

(I've got the datasheet on my FTP directory at
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/Sony2sk152.pdf).

Mark Zenier Washington State resident
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Mark Zenier wrote:

starman wrote:

Why is the 2SK152 so rare?


It is/was a proprietary Sony part. The datasheet says it was
designed for read amplifers in VCRs, so maybe there's some out
there that can obtained from scrap Betamax's.


That's very interesting. I didn't know it was a Sony semiconductor. If I
had known about the history of the 2SK152 years ago, I would have looked
for it in other Sony products. I haven't seen a Betamax in a long time.
I doubt they use the 2SK152 in anything now. There is probably a
contemporary substitute for the 2SK152 which would work well in the
'2010' if certain component values were changed.


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Old April 5th 04, 02:27 AM
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Mark Zenier wrote:

starman wrote:

Why is the 2SK152 so rare?


It is/was a proprietary Sony part. The datasheet says it was
designed for read amplifers in VCRs, so maybe there's some out
there that can obtained from scrap Betamax's.


That's very interesting. I didn't know it was a Sony semiconductor. If I
had known about the history of the 2SK152 years ago, I would have looked
for it in other Sony products. I haven't seen a Betamax in a long time.
I doubt they use the 2SK152 in anything now. There is probably a
contemporary substitute for the 2SK152 which would work well in the
'2010' if certain component values were changed.


Try www.partsolver.com. Others have found this exact part there.

Dan

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