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Old August 21st 04, 10:13 PM
Telamon
 
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MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Do they have a problem with the truth... earlier it was threats
of lawsuits against television stations who had the audacity to
air Veterans For Truth ads, now it is a push to get booksellers
not to sell the book...

Free speech? Give me a break.

The Kerry Kampaign is imploding, they do not want the truth to be
read, much like they do not want the focus to be on his
Senatorial record.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

dxAce

a Veteran for the truth


The hypocrisy of the left is amazing. They can dish it out but
can't take it.


Lets see... 264+ Vets who served with Kerry who get less credibility
in the press versus the 13 pro-Kerry Vets who get a lot of press...
hmmmmmmm.

Certainly makes one wonder.

I already know how I'm voting, and it certainly is not for John Fraud
Kerry.


There is the matter of the Veterans that served with Kerry. Out of the
group or squad that he was in, five boats with five aboard each, two
people support Kerry, two or three are dead and the rest of the people
in that group are against him. So out of the original 25 people that
served with him 20 to 21 do not think he has good leadership abilities.

I can understand why any Vietnam veteran would be against Kerry whether
he severed with him or not after the broad brush, he painted them all
with in a most negative way after coming back to the states.

I can look back now and see what he did was to bolster the efforts of
the antiwar crowd with lies to undermine the will of the people to fight
that war. Kerry did nothing less than support the Vietcong.

Those speeches Kerry gave before congress were broadcast at the time and
I remember hearing them and shaking my head in disgust. I never
understood why nothing ever became of Kerry's charges in those hearings.

Now I know why.

Kerry made the stuff up.

Who could trust this guy now?

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Old August 22nd 04, 02:22 AM
William H. Everhart III
 
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:13:23 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article , dxAce
wrote:

MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Do they have a problem with the truth... earlier it was threats
of lawsuits against television stations who had the audacity to
air Veterans For Truth ads, now it is a push to get booksellers
not to sell the book...

Free speech? Give me a break.

The Kerry Kampaign is imploding, they do not want the truth to be
read, much like they do not want the focus to be on his
Senatorial record.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

dxAce

a Veteran for the truth

The hypocrisy of the left is amazing. They can dish it out but
can't take it.


Lets see... 264+ Vets who served with Kerry who get less credibility
in the press versus the 13 pro-Kerry Vets who get a lot of press...
hmmmmmmm.

Certainly makes one wonder.

I already know how I'm voting, and it certainly is not for John Fraud
Kerry.


There is the matter of the Veterans that served with Kerry. Out of the
group or squad that he was in, five boats with five aboard each, two
people support Kerry, two or three are dead and the rest of the people
in that group are against him. So out of the original 25 people that
served with him 20 to 21 do not think he has good leadership abilities.

I can understand why any Vietnam veteran would be against Kerry whether
he severed with him or not after the broad brush, he painted them all
with in a most negative way after coming back to the states.

I can look back now and see what he did was to bolster the efforts of
the antiwar crowd with lies to undermine the will of the people to fight
that war. Kerry did nothing less than support the Vietcong.

Those speeches Kerry gave before congress were broadcast at the time and
I remember hearing them and shaking my head in disgust. I never
understood why nothing ever became of Kerry's charges in those hearings.

Now I know why.

Kerry made the stuff up.

Who could trust this guy now?



Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?
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Old August 22nd 04, 07:17 AM
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William H. Everhart III wrote:

Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?



Trying to give him a stroke? He'll get a meltdown over THAT question
before telling your that his convictions are so deeply carved in stone
that Bush could be a rapist and he would STILL vote for him.

In fact, Bush *was* reported the police as a rapist. The woman was later
found dead with a gunshot wound to the head. Women DON'T shoot
themselves in the head.

http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/Detail5.jpg
http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/bushrape.htm

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...Search&met a=
http://snipurl.com/8ksm


The court documents are he

http://www.geocities.com/theawakenin...sh_Rapist.html


If this guy isn't possessed by EVIL, I don't know who is.


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Old August 22nd 04, 07:50 AM
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In article CTWVc.34871$jZ5.6651@clgrps13,
m II wrote:

William H. Everhart III wrote:

Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?



Trying to give him a stroke? He'll get a meltdown over THAT question
before telling your that his convictions are so deeply carved in stone
that Bush could be a rapist and he would STILL vote for him.

In fact, Bush *was* reported the police as a rapist. The woman was later
found dead with a gunshot wound to the head. Women DON'T shoot
themselves in the head.

http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/Detail5.jpg
http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/bushrape.htm

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...an&btnG=Google
+Search&meta=
http://snipurl.com/8ksm


The court documents are he

http://www.geocities.com/theawakenin...sh_Rapist.html


If this guy isn't possessed by EVIL, I don't know who is.


See its crap like this post that cause people like me to not take you
seriously. Since you spread this content around YOU are evil.

Due to the level of nonsense exhibited by William H. Everhart III, he is
in the kill file but I will answer the question. The answer is no.

Why?

I have six issues with Kerry.

1. He has apparently embellished his war record.

2. He lied to a congressional committee about the Vietnam War when he
returned smearing other veterans of the war.

3. If he did not lie about the war in testimony before congress then he
is a war criminal.

4. I am conservative. Kerry is the most, according to his Senate voting
record, liberal Senator.

5. His Senatorial record indicates an inability to get his own bills
passed. This is not a good indicator of leadership.

6. He has missed many critical Senatorial votes and closed meetings
where he was to be informed on national security. He then hypocritically
raises these same issues in his campaign.

There is no debate on 2 through 6 because they are on record. 1 is still
a question.

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Old August 22nd 04, 12:30 PM
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William H. Everhart III wrote:



Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?



Not addressed to me, but a good question.

A better reason to vote for President Bush is Senator Kerry's Senate
voting record.

However, Senator Kerry is the one who keeps making his service in
Vietnam a major issue in this campaign.

As long as this is the case, the Swift Vets are likely to keep telling
their side of the story.

So which version of Sen. Kerry's "Christmas in Cambodia" is your favorite?



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Old August 22nd 04, 12:33 PM
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

William H. Everhart III wrote:



Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?


Not addressed to me, but a good question.

A better reason to vote for President Bush is Senator Kerry's Senate
voting record.

However, Senator Kerry is the one who keeps making his service in
Vietnam a major issue in this campaign.

As long as this is the case, the Swift Vets are likely to keep telling
their side of the story.

So which version of Sen. Kerry's "Christmas in Cambodia" is your favorite?


There are so many to choose from, it's hard to decide. ;-)

dxAce


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Old August 22nd 04, 12:53 PM
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dxAce wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

William H. Everhart III wrote:



Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?


Not addressed to me, but a good question.

A better reason to vote for President Bush is Senator Kerry's Senate
voting record.

However, Senator Kerry is the one who keeps making his service in
Vietnam a major issue in this campaign.

As long as this is the case, the Swift Vets are likely to keep telling
their side of the story.

So which version of Sen. Kerry's "Christmas in Cambodia" is your favorite?


There are so many to choose from, it's hard to decide. ;-)


I'm fairly certain though that all of them are 'seared --- seared into his
memory' though!

dxAce


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Old August 22nd 04, 02:50 PM
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my team was in and out of Cambodia about 5 or 6 times
before tricky dick said we were there. LRRP. some times
we humped it from Bam-Be-tuit (sp?), maybe a chop drop, and-
(wait for it)- swift boat... when you do the SOG route,
you use what you can get. once we humped it in from
LZ-English. 3 days. then we laid on a hilltop for 6 more.
never even fired a shot. no commo. we followed up on some
bad info from the civie ops out of Cam Rohn Bay. OMG- been so
long i can't remember the spelling of most of these places.
Metals? hell, i got a box full. when i finally make it to the
"WALL", they will be left for the real heroes...
Drifter...
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Old August 22nd 04, 06:30 PM
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"William H. Everhart III" wrote:
| Telamon, Curious if you could answer a hypothetical question for me.
| If Bush had Kerry's war record and Kerry had Bush's would that be
| enough for you to swing your vote to Kerry?

I know, I know, you didn't ask me, but I just can't resist:

I would not vote for Bush if he'd lied about being in Cambodia
on Christmas Eve, 1968.

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Old August 23rd 04, 05:00 PM
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Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:
I would not vote for Bush if he'd lied about being in Cambodia
on Christmas Eve, 1968.


"If you don't believe Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons,
then you shouldn't vote for me." -- John Kerry, January 2003

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Both Kerry and Edwards announced their candidacy near the beginning of September,
2003, so let's only count votes before then. From January, 2003, to August, 2003,
Senator Edwards didn't vote 69 out of 320 opportunities (~22%) and Senator Kerry
didn't vote 182 out of 320 opportunities (~57%). http://www.mwilliams.info/archives/001349.php


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