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#11
March 9th 05, 09:37 PM
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dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: dxAce wrote: You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp. Don't think I haven't eaten my share, and someone else's also, of both of them. ...Even tried a all-you-can-eat Alaskan snow crab supper a few times! One guy from Louisiana came back to a construction job I worked once with about six bushel of craw fish / "craw-dads" and lots of us had a feast. Have a "good" case of arthritis now. Hope you don't wind up with the same! Well, perhaps thats my problem with my neck vis a vis the accident. Have to ask the specialist about that next Tuesday, however I doubt that there is a correlation. Cooking pork kills the worm. And back in the days when those dietary laws were instituted no one had the scientific evidence we had today, therefore they made sense. Don't make the mistake that the Muslims make these days and try to stay rooted in 1000 year old beliefs. It ain't workin. |
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#13
March 10th 05, 01:27 AM
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"Al Patrick" wrote in message ... A new covenant does not mean the law is done away with. Christ said He CAME NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. If He had, why not do away with the law of gravity, etc. also? 186,000 miles per second. It's not just a good idea -- it's the law. -- Stinger |
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#14
March 10th 05, 02:44 AM
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dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: dxAce wrote: You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp. Don't think I haven't eaten my share, and someone else's also, of both of them. ...Even tried a all-you-can-eat Alaskan snow crab supper a few times! One guy from Louisiana came back to a construction job I worked once with about six bushel of craw fish / "craw-dads" and lots of us had a feast. Have a "good" case of arthritis now. Hope you don't wind up with the same! Well, perhaps thats my problem with my neck vis a vis the accident. Have to ask the specialist about that next Tuesday, however I doubt that there is a correlation. Cooking pork kills the worm. And back in the days when those dietary laws were instituted no one had the scientific evidence we had today, therefore they made sense. Don't make the mistake that the Muslims make these days and try to stay rooted in 1000 year old beliefs. It ain't workin. I don't eat pork because it is very fatty meat. Ever cooked pork chops in a convection oven? It leaves behind gobs of disgusting fat. It only took me about a dozen times of cleaning that out before I swore off pork. Even though I don't have the convection oven anymore, I still won't eat pork. I don't eat shellfish because they secrete a toxin that can be deadly. The CIA used to give spies shellfish toxin to take to kill themselves if they were ever captured. If you don't cook the shellfish right, you too will become paralyzed and die rather quickly. In my Latin American History class (college diversity requirement) my Mexican professor told us how his mother used to ask pork vendors to cut off a thin slice from their pork chops so she could see how many trich cysts there were, if there were too many she wouldn't buy it. And I once had an old man tell me how his father ate some shellfish that didn't taste right on a train. Later, his bunkmate noticed that his lips were green. He tried to get up and couldn't move. Fortunately the train was passing through a small town with a small hospital, and the man survived, but five minutes later and he would have been dead. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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#15
March 10th 05, 02:52 AM
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BDK wrote:
In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u.com says... BDK wrote: In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u.com says... BDK wrote: In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u.com says... Pastor Peter J. Peters is preaching / teaching this morning on God's health laws. 9985 now - 09:00 EST / 14:00 UTC 12.160 MHz at 12:00 EST / 17:00 UTC 5070 KHz at 11:00 PM | 23:00 EST / 04:00 UTC He'll also be on at 10:00 pm | 22:00 EST / 03:00 UTC but not this same message. The 10:00 PM message will repeat at 4:00 AM EST / 09:00 UTC. This can also be heard via satellite on Telstar 5. Look for SFA or SFAW It is also available as a live stream at http://www.scripturesforamerica.org and the programs are archived there. Look for today's date in the audio section. When he cures whatever is eating at that brain of his, Be it Syphilis, a tumor, an infection, or maybe just a hole in his head, then I'll want to listen for anything more than a laugh.. BDK It's probably not for you anyway. Go ahead and eat your mice and your pork! The trichinosis is FREE! Sorry to have disturbed your slumber. Pork, yes, nothing wrong with it cooked you know, the trichinosis is killed when heated. Maybe you don't understand that. But mice?? LOL. Your kookery is mind boggling.. BDK A google search for "eating mice" yielded over 3900 hits. The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66, places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating of mice. Check it out. Now there's an authority on nutrition! I'll check and see what's in my truck's owners manual about Italian food. LOL. "Do not cook lasagna on the engine of your new Chevy." Check out the dietary laws in Leviticus. Jeez, do you have the slightest connection to reality Al?? Do you REALLY want an answer to that question? The answer is of course that he does not. Anybody who believes Kook SW has some serious reality issues. All shell fish are also unclean. They are the ocean's filters, as are fish which do not have scales and fins; i.e. the catfish. They are scum eaters. It's about the same as washing your dishes and then "cooking" the dishrag for lunch - or maybe the air filter from your furnace or the air or oil filter from your automobile. Go ahead! Enjoy your pork and shell fish! But don't blame God when you come down with some disease! Please Al, get some help somewhere. I wouldn't want to eat a Catfish caught wild in the nearby river, but farm raised catfish is about the best fish there is, safety wise. Most Shrimp these days are also farm raised. You are reading a book filled, and apparently basing your diet on nonsense, superstitions and actually some common sense for conditions 2000 years ago. But things have changed now Al. Shhh, don't tell him that! He'll start wondering why the Bible doesn't mention cars and computers! Especially read Isaiah 66:17, ⤽'Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the agardens, 1?Following one in the center, Who eat bSWINE'S FLESH, DETESTABLE THINGS, AND MICE, Will ccome to an end altogether,' declares the Lord." Well, I'll pass on the mice...LOL The Romans ate mice. Stuffed mice were considered a delicacy for much of Rome's grandeur. That's probably where this prohibition comes from. The Bible also forbids eating grapes because the Romans loved grapes. [emphasis mine] For the context go back to verse 10 and read through verse 24. It discusses "Joy in Jerusalemâ¤=3Fs Future" through verse 14 and then talks about the things which will befall the wicked. The numbers and letters preceding some of the words refer to available notes on that verse. I thought to delete them, but decided to allow you to see that many of the verses do refer you to other verses throughout the scriptures. Therefore, if a word doesn't look right, consider it without the first letter or number. ;-) ------ I had to snip your drivel, it was nonsense anyway. Corrupted too, BTW. I was wondering what all those funny characters were.  Guess usenetdidn't like his enhanced bible text. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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#16
March 10th 05, 03:52 AM
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Steve Lawrence wrote:
Al, I think you're easily mislead. 73, Steve Hey Bro. Lawrence .. you're quite the Bible scholar. We should talk sometime. LW |
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#17
March 10th 05, 04:11 AM
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In article , says...
BDK wrote: =20 In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u.com= =20 says... BDK wrote: =20 In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u= ..com=20 says... =20 BDK wrote: In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4= u.com=20 says... Pastor Peter J. Peters is preaching / teaching this morning on Go= d's=20 health laws. 9985 now - 09:00 EST / 14:00 UTC 12.160 MHz at 12:00 EST / 17:00 UTC 5070 KHz at 11:00 PM | 23:00 EST / 04:00 UTC He'll also be on at 10:00 pm | 22:00 EST / 03:00 UTC but not this= same=20 message. The 10:00 PM message will repeat at 4:00 AM EST / 09:0= 0 UTC. This can also be heard via satellite on Telstar 5. Look for SFA = or SFAW It is also available as a live stream at=20 http://www.scripturesforamerica.org and the programs are archived= there.=20 Look for today's date in the audio section. When he cures whatever is eating at that brain of his, Be it Syphi= lis, a=20 tumor, an infection, or maybe just a hole in his head, then I'll want to listen for anything more than a laugh.. BDK It's probably not for you anyway. Go ahead and eat your mice and y= our=20 pork! The trichinosis is FREE! Sorry to have disturbed your slumb= er. =20 =20 Pork, yes, nothing wrong with it cooked you know, the trichinosis i= s=20 killed when heated. Maybe you don't understand that. =20 But mice?? LOL. =20 Your kookery is mind boggling.. =20 BDK =20 A google search for "eating mice" yielded over 3900 hits. =20 The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66= ,=20 places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating = of=20 mice. Check it out. =20 Now there's an authority on nutrition! I'll check and see what's in my= =20 truck's owners manual about Italian food. LOL. =20 "Do not cook lasagna on the engine of your new Chevy."=20 Mine says "Please do not cook Calimari on the exhaust manifold of your=20 2003 Dodge Ram, your truck is not designed as a cooking instrument!" =20 =20 =20 Check out the dietary laws in Leviticus.=20 =20 Jeez, do you have the slightest connection to reality Al?? =20 Do you REALLY want an answer to that question? The answer is of course that he does not. Anybody who believes Kook SW has some serious reality issues. Well, yes, but I had to respond.. He's too far gone to just ignore.. =20 All shell fish are also=20 unclean. They are the ocean's filters, as are fish which do not have= =20 scales and fins; i.e. the catfish. They are scum eaters. It's about= =20 the same as washing your dishes and then "cooking" the dishrag for lu= nch=20 - or maybe the air filter from your furnace or the air or oil filter= =20 from your automobile. Go ahead! Enjoy your pork and shell fish! B= ut=20 don't blame God when you come down with some disease! =20 Please Al, get some help somewhere. I wouldn't want to eat a Catfish=20 caught wild in the nearby river, but farm raised catfish is about the= =20 best fish there is, safety wise. Most Shrimp these days are also farm= =20 raised. You are reading a book filled, and apparently basing your diet= =20 on nonsense, superstitions and actually some common sense for condition= s=20 2000 years ago. But things have changed now Al. =20 Shhh, don't tell him that! He'll start wondering why the Bible doesn't mention cars and computers!=20 Hey one guy, Boatwright, thinks that they are talking about nuclear=20 ICBMs in it, sooo...? =20 =20 Especially read Isaiah 66:17, =20 =E2=3D3F?'Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the dtzad= tzgardens, 1?Following one in the center, Who eat dtzbdtzSWINE'S FLESH, DETESTABLE THINGS, AND MICE, Will dtzcdtzcome to an end altogether,' declares the Lord." =20 Well, I'll pass on the mice...LOL =20 The Romans ate mice. Stuffed mice were considered a delicacy for much of Rome's grandeur. That's probably where this prohibition comes from. The Bible also forbids eating grapes because the Romans loved grapes.=20 All that stuff about grapes/wine being good for you, it must be one of=20 Satan's LIES!!! =20 =20 [emphasis mine] =20 For the context go back to verse 10 and read through verse 24. It=20 discusses "Joy in Jerusalem=E2=3D3F=3D3Fs Future" through verse 14 an= d then talks=20 about the things which will befall the wicked. =20 The numbers and letters preceding some of the words refer to availabl= e=20 notes on that verse. I thought to delete them, but decided to allow = you=20 to see that many of the verses do refer you to other verses throughou= t=20 the scriptures. Therefore, if a word doesn't look right, consider it= =20 without the first letter or number. ;-) =20 ------ =20 =20 I had to snip your drivel, it was nonsense anyway. Corrupted too, BTW. =20 I was wondering what all those funny characters were. Guess usenetdidn't like his enhanced bible text.=20 It's hard enough to read, but when it's messed up, it probably still=20 makes sense to Al.. BDK =20 =20 ----=3D=3D Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet = News=3D=3D---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ = Newsgroups ----=3D East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption = =3D---- =20 |
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#18
March 10th 05, 05:27 AM
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"BDK" wrote in message ... Hey one guy, Boatwright, thinks that they are talking about nuclear ICBMs in it, sooo...? I knew John P. Boatwright. You could take all of the most irritating and crazy people posting to r.r.s, stuff them into one person, and not even approach the lunacy that was him. Fortunately, he's been off of Usenet for several years. People used to be afraid of using his name in a post for fear of summoning him. IIRC he'd scan dejanews for instances of his name such as this one, and lo and behold...he'd appear. NOT good. His webpage is still online: http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/index.html The bit about nuclear bombs in the Bible can be found he http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/nukes.htm |
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#19
March 10th 05, 09:17 AM
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Al Patrick wrote: The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66, places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating of mice. Check it out. Well, you and Jesus pass me your share of BBQed pork ribs, will ya, Al? Thanks.... (yuuuuum, yum!). You can keep the oysters and catfish; don't care for 'em. But scallops? Pass them too, and tell Jesus to stop hogging the Tarter sauce. Carp have scales, Al. Ever seen what they eat? It'll put you off your Post Toasties. Just curious, Al: do you and your "significant other" ever have sex just for fun, or is that a "sin?" |
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#20
March 10th 05, 01:52 PM
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And I suppose the lesson we can all learn from that amalgam of science
and biblical passages on pork is that Pork Sashimi is probably no better for you than Beef Tartare, Fish Sushi, Raw Oysters, Clams On The Half-Shell, Uncooked Turkey and any other form of raw meat. Pretty much common sense these days to thoroughly cook your source of protein. Al Patrick wrote: A new covenant does not mean the law is done away with. Christ said He CAME NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. If He had, why not do away with the law of gravity, etc. also? A quick cut and paste from elsewhere.... ------------ The question remains: Why did Christians decide to disregard these ancient food laws? The answer lies in "Acts". The first hint of a rejection of the food laws is found in Acts 10v9-16, where it is recorded that Peter visited Cornelius. When Peter went to prey he became hungry, then fell into a trance. He saw heaven open and a great vessel descend holding all manner of beasts. A voice bid Peter to eat but he refused on the grounds that he had never eaten anything common or unclean. The voice replied: "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou uncommon." The final rejection of the food laws (and indeed of most of the Jewish Law) is found in Acts 15v24-29, where the meeting of the Council at Jerusalem is recorded. The rejection comes in response to the Jewish element directing that the Gentile Christians should be circumcised and keep the Law. However the leaders of the fledgling Church claimed that they had given no such commandment, considering that keeping to the Jewish Law was a subversion of the soul. Instead it was decided: "... to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication ..." Acts 15v29,29. The death knell would have sounded for the early Christian Church had its leaders insisted that their new Gentile members be circumcised and keep the Jewish Law. They would have left in droves! Thus it was good strategy on the part of the Council at Jerusalem to rescind the Jewish Law. The way was open for Christians to eat Pork! The Side Effects of Eating Pork The side effects of eating Pork are well documented and attested. Perhaps the most famous example is that of the Buddha who died from food poisoning after eating a pork dinner. Other side effects of eating Pork include: inflammation, itchiness, swelling, obesity, meningo-encephalitis, arthritis, focal granulomas or abscesses, body odour, bad breath, hot or cold flushes, headache, dizziness, heartburn, seizures, stroke, epilepsy, ocular cysts and myelopathy. The parasitic Trichinae Worm, which is also referred to as the Pork Worm, is responsible for some horrific deaths among humans who eat Pork. From the stomach the worm gradually invades the muscular system, but the side effects are often attributed to other causes. Eventually the lava mature into worms, die and calcify, forming cysts. At this stage the disease is called "Cysticercosis". However when the encysted worms are found on any of: the brain, spinal cord, the membranes enclosing the brain and spinal cord (meninges) or the eyes, then the disease is called "Neurocysticercosis". In an article "Pig Facts" the process of development of the Trichinae Worm is explained. "The Trichinae is enclosed in a little cyst or sac, which, when taken into the stomach, is dissolved by the gastric juice ...and ... gradually works its way throughout the whole muscular system. In five to seven days the larvae mature in the muscles of the human body. When they finish their life cycle they become encysted into the internal organs of the host. The pork worm is unable to be detected with the human eye and most pathologists have reported that there is a possibility for nearly half a million of trichinae to be found in each pound of muscle tissue of the host." ======== Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote: "The time is coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." (Jer. 31:31,33). 9About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of fourfooted animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." 14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." 15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." (Acts 10) 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. (Romans 14:14) Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' " (Matthew 15:10&11) Al, I think you're easily mislead. 73, Steve |
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