John Smith wrote:
All that can be taken care of with new bandwidth allocations. All we
do is benefit from is finally getting some new and interesting minds
to communicate with. Chatting with ancients farts gets old quickly...


Eleminating the CW test won't bring in any significant numbers of new
minds into ham radio. Ham radio just isn't interesting to the current
generation code test or no code test. All your yapping is for naught.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


John Plimmer wrote:

I couldn't agree more with dropping CW from the ham test.
It reminds me of the legal profession here in South Africa.
It used to be a requirement that lawyers had to pass Latin in high
school
and have at least two courses in Latin for their law degree.
That was scrapped about ten years ago amid loud protests from the
dinosaurs.
Today the law profession is flourishing more than ever before with high
quality judges and advocates.
The only thing I have noticed is that the high and mighty no longer spew
out
Latin quotations = R.I.P.

Our SARL (South African Radio League) ham club is diminishing by the
year
and the once crowded ham bands are now empty.
We need to make it easier for new entrants to come into this wonderful
hobby.

Why does everything need to be made easier? Can't the 'tards learn the
code? If
so, WHY can't the 'tards learn the code?

If ordinary folks could pass the test in years past what is so different
today?

Laziness?

It's like being certified in COBOL when you work on MSSQL, it's a waste of
time.

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:39:12 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



John Plimmer wrote:

I couldn't agree more with dropping CW from the ham test.
It reminds me of the legal profession here in South Africa.
It used to be a requirement that lawyers had to pass Latin in high
school
and have at least two courses in Latin for their law degree.
That was scrapped about ten years ago amid loud protests from the
dinosaurs.
Today the law profession is flourishing more than ever before with high
quality judges and advocates.
The only thing I have noticed is that the high and mighty no longer
spew out
Latin quotations = R.I.P.

Our SARL (South African Radio League) ham club is diminishing by the
year
and the once crowded ham bands are now empty.
We need to make it easier for new entrants to come into this wonderful
hobby.

Why does everything need to be made easier? Can't the 'tards learn the
code? If
so, WHY can't the 'tards learn the code?

If ordinary folks could pass the test in years past what is so different
today?

Laziness?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



BINGO!

It seems everybody wants something for nothing these days.

What do you mean nothing? There's still a test. Remove the CW and make the
tests harder then.

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

The driving test has been a joke for years. Worthless!

"MnMikew" wrote in message
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It would be more of an incentive for me to get my ticket if I could use
HF.
I have ZERO interest in CW. Maybe open a little HF for techs?

Already is a little of HF Phone open to techs.. segment of 10m as I recall.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about the law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some knowlege of the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a language for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective ham setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about the law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some knowlege of the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a language for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective ham setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

I give up...

Be a lazy 'tard!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Code proficient.

YEAH!!!

Hide all the answers and require 'em to come up with the answers
psychically!!!

ROFLOL! Get real, any college is test smart, any CS/EE technology
student will blow the doors off any test any panel can come up with in
damn short order.

John

"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:39:12 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



John Plimmer wrote:

I couldn't agree more with dropping CW from the ham test.
It reminds me of the legal profession here in South Africa.
It used to be a requirement that lawyers had to pass Latin in
high
school
and have at least two courses in Latin for their law degree.
That was scrapped about ten years ago amid loud protests from
the
dinosaurs.
Today the law profession is flourishing more than ever before
with high
quality judges and advocates.
The only thing I have noticed is that the high and mighty no
longer
spew out
Latin quotations = R.I.P.

Our SARL (South African Radio League) ham club is diminishing by
the
year
and the once crowded ham bands are now empty.
We need to make it easier for new entrants to come into this
wonderful
hobby.

Why does everything need to be made easier? Can't the 'tards learn
the
code? If
so, WHY can't the 'tards learn the code?

If ordinary folks could pass the test in years past what is so
different
today?

Laziness?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



BINGO!

It seems everybody wants something for nothing these days.

What do you mean nothing? There's still a test. Remove the CW and
make the
tests harder then.

Becareful not insult COBOL here, they probably think that is a new
state-of-the-art computer language! grin

John

"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


John Plimmer wrote:

I couldn't agree more with dropping CW from the ham test.
It reminds me of the legal profession here in South Africa.
It used to be a requirement that lawyers had to pass Latin in
high
school
and have at least two courses in Latin for their law degree.
That was scrapped about ten years ago amid loud protests from the
dinosaurs.
Today the law profession is flourishing more than ever before
with high
quality judges and advocates.
The only thing I have noticed is that the high and mighty no
longer spew
out
Latin quotations = R.I.P.

Our SARL (South African Radio League) ham club is diminishing by
the
year
and the once crowded ham bands are now empty.
We need to make it easier for new entrants to come into this
wonderful
hobby.

Why does everything need to be made easier? Can't the 'tards learn
the
code? If
so, WHY can't the 'tards learn the code?

If ordinary folks could pass the test in years past what is so
different
today?

Laziness?

It's like being certified in COBOL when you work on MSSQL, it's a
waste of
time.

Well, 10 meters is pretty much the stomping grounds of freebanders
here. Some are none too polite either...

John

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"MnMikew" wrote in message
...
It would be more of an incentive for me to get my ticket if I could
use
HF.
I have ZERO interest in CW. Maybe open a little HF for techs?

Already is a little of HF Phone open to techs.. segment of 10m as I
recall.