DaviD - And 'you' would Know !
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Look you little idiot...I have worked and live over here in the heart
of Islam...just because you say you adopt Islam back there, and change
your name to Ahemed, Moh'd and the like, it doesn't change what or who
you are. Here right outside of Mekkah, a black man is still called a
******...get it...I not only know but work with the locals here every
day for the past 8 years...the poor have nothing, the middle class has
whatever the upper class cannot take, and the leaders have
everything...the religious leaders feed off of the leaders' charity to
keep the masses in line.

In the Book of the Cow (you are a believer, no???), there is stated the
three classes of men...how can you have individual freedom in a
religion that defies God's love and law???

Nothing changes here, it only get worse in every way except what the
west is trying to do...restore human worth and dignity to these peoples
who have been told to submit to their leaders, and not to God alone.

I have a ton of there propaganda pamphlets produced by the Islamic
International Press...read 'em lately....not I think. Everyone save the
Arabic Muslims are slaves, cattle to be sold and used under a form of
chatel or indentured slavery.

I will tell you about white crazy guys...let's pack you ass back to
where evere you think you belong...you'll find they don't want you as a
burden...they want workers not whiners...you would be beaten or
killed....and before Islam spread, what was your religion...I suppose
you had a choice...Islam is the fastest growing religion only because
of a population boom...in reality and in Africa, Christianity is on the
rise, and Islam on the decline...what to know why...get your butt over
here and see for yourself...but then you'd have to be worth something
to the natives or government here first to even come here.......

Time to drop the "white man" excuse...that is Islamic...blame someone
else for your laziness or choices in life (if you can choose). I do not
blame white or black...Islam is a curse on the free spirit of
men.....only under the firm hand of Salladin did they prosper (keep the
religion in the background)...in fact it is time to dispose of all
organized religions...if you cannot believe in God without the
showmanship and ritual, then you are an unbeliever...and if you have a
direct link to God, then why be beaten 5 times a day to attend prayer.

There is no law or freedom here with or without Islam...and considering
Islam has done absolutely nothing to better the lot of these peoples
than participate in their ritual rape and pillaging, the British were
at least civilized about it.

Facts remain the biggest deterrent to world peace, and the preservation
of the rights and dignity of every man is Islam........despite all that
I see, hear, and do everyday here with REAL MOSLEMS, educated and
successful Muslims who would shun your ignoranance, and have had read
in the Quran, Hidaths and local documents, your comments alone show an
ignorance of the real world over here, and the teachings and tenants of
Islam in its purest and practiced form.

Sell your unqualified opinions to some other ignornant soul..spare me
the BS...maybe I can get someone here to hire you as their driver, tea
boy, or companion....you women and men live apart here in the same
house...rarely see each other before the wedding night...wanna try that
lifestyle????

If you don't like the white man or his culture or his drive to succeed
or his achievements, then pack your butt back to where ever and live
the life you will never find over here....amzing that they are crying
"...freedom.." in every claudestine corner of the home of Islam, and
you want to insult what they respect and long for.

Too bad that freedom of speech and religion are not allowed over
here....Christianity would run so rampant here that ISlam would die off
in 2 to 3 generations. Before you open your mouth, get your facts
straight, or at least speak form personal experience from the Middle
Eastern region. Your just another ignorant fool blaming everyone for
your lot in life rather than being a real man and working your butt off
to get ahead. If you want to help the Islamic brotherhood over here,
then give up the terrorists, and fight for their rights under brutal
dictators and kings ... don't criticize want you don't understand or
know about sir.

Peter Newman wrote:
Folks, here is an interesting (and in my view brilliant) excerpt from
a book by Sir Winston Churchill. He wrote this in 1899, when he was 25
years old.

I apologise for posting this as this is not exactly related to radio,
but given the existing world situation with Islam, I thought that I
would share this.

Peter Newman

------------------------------------------


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly
systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement;
the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the
influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those
who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far
from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing
faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is
sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as
fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II,
pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

That was written during the time that Britain and Russia were engaged
in "The Great Game", or a contest of imperial superpowers to acquire
large stretches of land in central asia.

"John S." wrote:

Peter Newman wrote:
Folks, here is an interesting (and in my view brilliant) excerpt from
a book by Sir Winston Churchill. He wrote this in 1899, when he was 25
years old.

I apologise for posting this as this is not exactly related to radio,
but given the existing world situation with Islam, I thought that I
would share this.

Peter Newman

------------------------------------------


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly
systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement;
the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the
influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those
who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far
from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing
faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is
sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as
fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II,
pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

That was written during the time that Britain and Russia were engaged
in "The Great Game", or a contest of imperial superpowers to acquire
large stretches of land in central asia.

Actually, 'The River War' deals with his experiences in the Sudan, which most of
us know is in Africa, rather than Asia.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

dxAce wrote:



"John S." wrote:

Peter Newman wrote:
Folks, here is an interesting (and in my view brilliant) excerpt from
a book by Sir Winston Churchill. He wrote this in 1899, when he was 25
years old.

I apologise for posting this as this is not exactly related to radio,
but given the existing world situation with Islam, I thought that I
would share this.

Peter Newman

------------------------------------------


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly
systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement;
the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the
influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those
who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far
from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing
faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is
sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as
fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II,
pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

That was written during the time that Britain and Russia were engaged
in "The Great Game", or a contest of imperial superpowers to acquire
large stretches of land in central asia.

Actually, 'The River War' deals with his experiences in the Sudan, which most of
us know is in Africa, rather than Asia.

Sudan is run by Muslims, mostly of Arab descent. There are Christians in
Sudan, but they're an oppressed minority, as are the blacks (as opposed
to the Arabs, who run things). The people in Darfur who have been
subjected to genocide by Arab Muslims are Black Christians. The Arab
Muslims in Sudan have been fighting civil wars against Black Christians
for decades, mostly in the south, but now in the west. One other thing:
Sudan is full of oil, most of which is inaccessible because of the wars.


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In article ,
running dogg wrote:

Sudan is run by Muslims, mostly of Arab descent. There are Christians in
Sudan, but they're an oppressed minority, as are the blacks (as opposed
to the Arabs, who run things). The people in Darfur who have been
subjected to genocide by Arab Muslims are Black Christians. The Arab

No, both sides in Dafur are Muslims. It's between the Arab pastoralists
raising their livestock, and the African farmers.

Muslims in Sudan have been fighting civil wars against Black Christians
for decades, mostly in the south, but now in the west. One other thing:
Sudan is full of oil, most of which is inaccessible because of the wars.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Mark Zenier wrote:

In article ,
running dogg wrote:

Sudan is run by Muslims, mostly of Arab descent. There are Christians in
Sudan, but they're an oppressed minority, as are the blacks (as opposed
to the Arabs, who run things). The people in Darfur who have been
subjected to genocide by Arab Muslims are Black Christians. The Arab

No, both sides in Dafur are Muslims. It's between the Arab pastoralists
raising their livestock, and the African farmers.

Military regimes favoring Islamic-oriented governments have
dominated national politics since independence from the UK in
1956. Sudan has been embroiled in a civil war for all but 10
years since then. The war is rooted in northern economic,
political, and social domination of non-Muslim, non-Arab
southern Sudanese. Since 1983, the war and war- and
famine-related effects have resulted in more than 2 million
deaths and over 4 million people displaced. The ruling regime
is
a mixture of military elite and an Islamist party that came to

power in a 1989 coup. Some northern opposition parties have
made common cause with the southern rebels and entered the
war as part of an anti-government alliance. Peace talks gained

momentum in 2002-03 with the signing of several accords,
including a cease-fire agreement.

From: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/su.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.

"John S." wrote:

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.

Nice back track...! Point was, the quote itself had nothing what so ever to do
with your comment.

Keep trying.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.

Nice back track...! Point was, the quote itself had nothing what so ever to do
with your comment.

Not sure I understand...your post was chained directly below mine.

Keep trying.

dxAce
Michigan
USA