I saw some people on tv and I heard some people on some local Jackson
radio stations who said,if bush was running for relection now,there is
no d..n way in hell they would vote for him! and neither would I.I have
an email from Tex Houston www.ranchgazette.com in the Crawford,Texas
or Midland,Texas area.The email dates back to about 2002. (I think,I
would have to dig it up and check it,I sent it to one of my other webtv
user names for storage) It is a short email from Tex Houston and part of
his email to me pertains to the fact most of the people in the
Crawford,Texas area are disapointed with bush.Look,I didn't quit the
GOP,the d..n GOP QUIT me!
cuhulin

This is the headline from this BBC report
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210674.stm

I am proud to say that as a little old South African in a third world
country at the Southern tip of darkest Africa we had a devastating flood in
my little town in 2002.
The skies had not even cleared from the raging storm when the air force
choppers arrived in force.
They rescued those in need, brought in emergency personnel and special riot
police to prevent looting.
Although the flood put out water supplies, washed away our connecting roads,
power and sewerage systems, mighty teams of specialists arrived within hours
and all services were restored within 48 hours except the roads that took a
few days longer. The choppers brought in food until the roads were
reconstructed.

I felt very proud to be a South African at that time and was immensely
grateful for the smooth running and super national rescue effort that took
place seemingly so easily, like a well oiled machine.

What happened to mighty America...???
What did the Federal Emergency Management Agency do...???
Heads should roll for this debacle - it is inexcusable in a superpower with
all America's vast resources.

Hello, John --

I always enjoy your radio-related posts. I'm a little surprised to see
this post from you.

Of course, everyone in America is asking the question, "How could this
possibly have happened?" This precise eventuality has been discussed
widely in the last few years. When a more-active-than-usual hurricane
season was forecast for this year, there was lots of discussion of New
Orleans' exposed southeast flank -- there's levee protection from the
lake and the river, but no levees to stop a tidal surge from the ocean.
The proposed solution was to build an immense network of levees to the
southeast of the city, to complete the ring all the way around.

In the end, that wouldn't have helped, because it was the failure of an
existing levee that caused the problem. It wasn't the direct effect of
the hurricane -- the city actually did pretty well with that. But when
the levees broke, all bets were off.

There should have been a better contingency plan for the levees
breaking, sure -- but, let me ask you -- do levees ever break
unexpectedly in South Africa? Are all of your public works projects
flawless after being in existence for well over a hundred years? Can SA
spend billions to build levees which have a one-in-a-thousand chance of
ever being needed?

Also, John, when floods hit small towns in America, the rescue and aid
efforts are well-oiled and take place easily. It happens yearly, and
we're very proud of the efforts of all of our rescuers, both government
and private. I'm happy that it's the same for you in South Africa. How
about you report back to us after a South African city with a population
of 1.3 million, located in a basin 6 feet below sea level, and with few
ingress or egress routes, is suddenly submerged under 10-20 feet of
water, with no immediate way to pump it out? Oh, and it has to happen
immediately after a hurricane which knocks out all power and destroys
many of the already-limited ingress and egress routes. Let's compare
notes then.

I wouldn't want to live downstream from a dam,that is Sure.
cuhulin

www.devilfinder.com Johnstown Pennsylvania Dam Burst.
cuhulin

In article ,
Greg wrote:
Oh yeah? You obviously didn't catch Cigar Dave yesterday (12:00 noon EDT,
970am, Tampa)! He's a conservative, Republican, Bush supporter who was so
hot with criticism he was lit at both ends.

Seriously, a common theme I'm hearing on conservative radio talk shows, as
well as the opinion mongers n the "liberal" mainstream media is that FEMA,
Homeland Security, and everyone up the food chain to POTUS his-very-self,
are ill-prepared and slow to react. This bodes ill for any more
catastrophes, natural or terrorist-made, in the future.

I've got a couple of questions?

1. How exaggerated was the TV coverage of the sniping?
How many incidents, and what areas were actually effected?

2. Did the media coveage cause the FEMA executives to shut down
access to New Orleans on the grounds of safety? If not safety,
why? And why where highway style busses needed to evacuate
the Superdome? Wouldn't a "Dunkirk with Dumptrucks" have worked
several days earlier? (Who go the contract to provide the busses?)

3. Would a lot of this not have happened this way if federal
bureaucrats were banned from watching any 24 hour cable news
channels?

CNN lost all credibilty with me during the coverage of the First Gulf War
that the local TV stations were rebroadcasting. Sloppy, overdramatic,
inaccurate, and STUPID. And to get FOX news, just add a large factor
of blatant lying and partisan propaganda. They're not news, they're a
form of "Reality TV" where the news editors and meat puppets out in the
field are making up a "story" to add drama to real events.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:57:59 GMT, Greg wrote:


Michael Brown admitted on a
television interview that he was unaware that 20,000 people had been told to
go to the convention center and wait for help. They were abandodned there
for days without food & water. He said in the interview he would take
immediate action. It was several days before help finally arrived. Michael
Brown belongs in prison. Despite what the right-wing apologists on this NG
might tell you, the truth is if Bush were running for re-election he would
be soundly defeated, as a result of his lack of leadership in this enormous
tragedy as well as dissatisfaction with his handling of the Iraq situation
in the opinion of the majority of Americans.

Brace yourself - gratuitous flaming to follow.

Greg

This is what happens when you put a PR director from the Arabian Horse
Breeder's Association in charge of disaster preparation.

While Americans were drowning in Louisiana, Bush was mugging for the
press in San Diego, completely oblivious to the gravity of the
situation. He is disconnected. But even worse, his handlers are
disconeected.

To add insult to injury, Ms. Rice refused to cut short her New York
shopping adventure.

''The haves...and the have mores.''.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:18:47 GMT, Greg wrote:



From: Beerbarrel
Organization: Cox Communications
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:11:09 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:57:59 GMT, Greg wrote:
(snip)
Nobody is calling for anybody's head except that dumb ass mayor in New
Orleans. Truth be told, the actual problem is the mayor's lack of
preparation.
(snip)

Oh yeah? You obviously didn't catch Cigar Dave yesterday (12:00 noon EDT,
970am, Tampa)! He's a conservative, Republican, Bush supporter who was so
hot with criticism he was lit at both ends.

Seriously, a common theme I'm hearing on conservative radio talk shows, as
well as the opinion mongers n the "liberal" mainstream media is that FEMA,
Homeland Security, and everyone up the food chain to POTUS his-very-self,
are ill-prepared and slow to react. This bodes ill for any more
catastrophes, natural or terrorist-made, in the future. I agree with that
assessment.

Greg


Truth is I ignore most of the stuff I hear. I do think that people are
way to quick to assess blame. It seems to me that the Mayor and
Governor could have helped prevent some of the tragedies. Don't you
think people need to start helping themselves and quit depending on a
government handout?

I then hear what dion says and I've really got to laugh. She can sing
but she sure can't think. She makes it sound like going to war happens
in a few short minutes. She does not realize that it was months and
months in the planning stages. I think the what has happened in a mere
week is truly a miracle. Can you imagine the logistics involved in the
relief effort?

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:05:42 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:



Meanwhile, the left's favorite son is hamming it up with the source of one
of his many "character flaws":
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/even...03dinosfossils

-=jd=-
So, as long as there is an equivalent absurdity on the left, we should
the right a pass?

I say run them all out of town. The way I see it, it's the Reality
Based Community vs The Uptight Bubble People.

While Americans were drowning in Louisiana, Bush was mugging for
the press in San Diego, completely oblivious to the gravity of the
situation. He is disconnected. But even worse, his handlers are
disconeected.

To add insult to injury, Ms. Rice refused to cut short her New York
shopping adventure.


-=jd=- wrote:

Meanwhile, the left's favorite son is hamming it up with the source
of one of his many "character flaws":

-=jd=-

Methinks you're obfuscating the point again...

W and Condi are *still in power* and should therefore be on the job,
while Slick Willy is ultimately a civilian on his own time who can be
sucking as many soggy cigars as he wants. Sorry, your "point"...isn't.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:30:58 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Isnt intelligence forbidden by law in CanaDuh?

As long as we have *you* as reference, the world will never notice. Are
you going cadaver hunting with Beerfart this weekend? He's pumped.

Only if it's yours, 'tard boy. We'd do that just so as to kick your ass one last
time.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



How far north did the Katrina effect? I saw someone's mom floatin down
the mighty Mississippi!