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MnMikew October 4th 05 04:33 PM

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
ups.com...
Resistant isn't quite the same as fireproof now is it. And do you really

think they would chop down the last of the big ones? More
sensationalism
from the rabid eco-nazis.

Mike - Sequoia trees really do withstand fires beautifully - it takes a
particularly bad fire to kill one, and most lightning-caused forest
fires that naturally sweep through a grove every 10 to 50 years does
not reach an intensity to do much more than superficially scorch the
big trees. And, as I've already explained, their reproduction cannot
occur without it.

No, they will not chop down any large trees (which is defined, IIRC, as
trees greater than about 60" diameter at breast height) - they are all
protected under the Monument designation. It is the trees between the
big ones that would be taken, mostly firs and sugar pines.

Problem is, a sequoia forest is more than sequoia trees - it is an
elaborate fabric of living things, many of which depend upon each other
for support, biologically, chemically and physically. Just like you
require oxygen to breathe, food with various nutrients to grow and
survive, and mechanical support structures to clothe and house you, so
do the things in the forest require similar and analogous features.
You can argue and name-call if you like, but no living thing survives
without the input and support of dozens, hundreds, thousands of others
both far and near. Sequoia trees may seem so big and sturdy and
durable that they could survive on their own (they certainly can
withstand most fires) - and sometimes, people feel the same about
themselves - but at some point, pulling enough bricks out of the house
will make it fall.

This isn't eco-nazi stuff - it happens every year in places around the
world.

Bruce Jensen

Yes Bruce, but logging a few trees is not going to damage the forest. The
forestery practices of today are much less invasive. We need wood, period.
It has to come from somewhere. Ask the people in California how particulary
bad their fires have been as late.



MnMikew October 4th 05 04:36 PM

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wrote in message
ups.com...
Her'e how it's done.. They clearcut everything; mile after mile after
mile
Up steep slopes, down into valleys, rught up to the highways.. where
they leave a strip of trees..


That isnt used much these days, especially in designated forests. This
probably does happen on Potlatch owned land though they dont leave a few
trees to reseed, the replant millions of new trees.




MnMikew October 4th 05 04:36 PM

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"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:55:18 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:



wrote in message
roups.com...
- Giant Sequoias have unusually thick bark,
which makes them fire resistant...

Resistant isn't quite the same as fireproof now is it. And do you really
think they would chop down the last of the big ones? More sensationalism
from the rabid eco-nazis.

You are a tool.


and your a fool chicken little.



[email protected] October 4th 05 04:47 PM

OT Score One For The Tree Huggers
 
Have you hugged your tree today? Not me,I am not a tree hugger.Robert
Mitchum movie,,, She Couldn't Say No,,,, How far is it to
Progress,Arkansas? [about five gallons] Well,give me five gallons then.
cuhulin


[email protected] October 4th 05 04:49 PM

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wrote:
Jeez, some parrot taught dzArse a new insult -- now he has
four to use in each posting.


He may be developing some personal hygiene.


[email protected] October 4th 05 04:55 PM

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Used to be,, used to be,,, All the way from the East Coast of America
all the way to the Mississippi River,,, everything was very,very dense
Forest,, except for the Indian Trails and Indian settlements.Trees so
high,, you couldn't hardly see the Sun.
cuhulin


[email protected] October 4th 05 04:58 PM

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I love Trees as much as anybody else.My home State of Mississippi has
more Forest than any other State in America. www.devilfinder.com
Mississippi Trivia

(but,I am not a greenie,I am not a tree hugger)
cuhulin


[email protected] October 4th 05 05:01 PM

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Cut down some Trees (but,leave certain Trees alone) and plant new Tree
Seedlings.Guess what? It Works.
cuhulin


dxAce October 4th 05 05:11 PM

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wrote:

wrote:
Jeez, some parrot taught dzArse a new insult -- now he has
four to use in each posting.


He may be developing some personal hygiene.


That one kind of flopped for you, ****stain.

Try again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



David October 4th 05 05:27 PM

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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:33:05 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


Yes Bruce, but logging a few trees is not going to damage the forest. The
forestery practices of today are much less invasive. We need wood, period.
It has to come from somewhere. Ask the people in California how particulary
bad their fires have been as late.


The fires here are scrub brush. When we do have forest fires they are
made much worse by beetle weakened pine trees which go up like an
incendiary bomb. The beetles are spreading due to climate change.

For many years we have been seeking federal help to remove the dead
trees. It's cheaper than making people whole after a wild fire.



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