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The last Battles of the War of Northern Aggression (or what fools call
the civil war) took place North of the Artic Circle.We were sinking brit
Ships.Some of the smartest Officers up North in the War of Northern
Aggression were Traitors! from down South who went up North.
www.patriotist.com
cuhulin

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NUKE Russia,, NUKE China,, NUKE all raghead Countries,,, NUKE,,,,,,,
(nawww,I better not say that one, it isn't Canada,,), but some of y'all
get me driff.
cuhulin
(d.c.)

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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:27:31 GMT, David wrote:

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:33:05 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


Yes Bruce, but logging a few trees is not going to damage the forest. The
forestery practices of today are much less invasive. We need wood, period.
It has to come from somewhere. Ask the people in California how particulary
bad their fires have been as late.


The fires here are scrub brush. When we do have forest fires they are
made much worse by beetle weakened pine trees which go up like an
incendiary bomb. The beetles are spreading due to climate change.

For many years we have been seeking federal help to remove the dead
trees. It's cheaper than making people whole after a wild fire.

I'm not certain how true the following is - but have heard that
[unspecified] environmental organization(s) have hindered having the
trees removed. I find this, as well as lack of governmental action,
equally believable.

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Metal studs for houses,, sheetrock for walls and ceilings,,, concrete
porches,,,, concrete floors,,,,,, They all call her,, Second hand
Rose,,,,,,, second hand shoes,,,,, second hand clothes,,,,,, they all
call her Second hand Rose,,,,,, but Rose doesn't have a second hand
hearttttt,,,,,,

And with that,boys and girls,, I am fixin to put on my Goodwill store
$2.00 second hand shirt and head on over to the second hand Goodwill
store,, y'all play nice now.I told them two gals next door at about
twoish AM last night,, ya'll,go to bed,,, it's late.
cuhulin

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MnMikew wrote:
Yes Bruce, but logging a few trees is not going to damage the forest.

Wanna really screw up the tree-huggers? Propose legislation that would
ensure that we will return the USA to the number of trees that were here
before the continent was widely populated. After the 'huggers push that
through, we get to cut down several million trees to return the number
of trees to what it was.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

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Wanna really screw up the tree-huggers? Propose legislation that would
ensure that we will return the USA to the number of trees that were
here
before the continent was widely populated. After the 'huggers push that

through, we get to cut down several million trees to return the number
of trees to what it was

Thinks you. Before Europeans arrived, there was a virtually nonstop
forest of billions of trees from the eastern seaboard to the
Mississippi. In the west were forests where here are now parched
grasslands and clearcuts by the millions of acres...including Alaska.

Sure, we have some plantations where of trees grow...But old growth? A
tiny fraction of what used to be. The "tree-huggers," as you put it,
know this.

Bruce Jensen

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wanna really screw up the tree-huggers? Propose legislation that would
ensure that we will return the USA to the number of trees that were
here
before the continent was widely populated. After the 'huggers push that

through, we get to cut down several million trees to return the number
of trees to what it was

Thinks you. Before Europeans arrived, there was a virtually nonstop
forest of billions of trees from the eastern seaboard to the
Mississippi. In the west were forests where here are now parched
grasslands and clearcuts by the millions of acres...including Alaska.

Sure, we have some plantations where of trees grow...But old growth? A
tiny fraction of what used to be. The "tree-huggers," as you put it,
know this.
Perhaps these plantations will be "old growth" someday.

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Perhaps these plantations will be "old growth" someday

It's possible, if they are allowed to grow to that age (which typically
for a western temperate montane forest is about 200 years plus, if
sequoia species are excluded). More likely, they'll be cut at about 40
or 50 years. This is pretty typical up and down the West Coast, in all
types of forest.

Even if allowed to grow, plantations are typically one or two kinds of
trees, as opposed to a complex mixture. Old Growth forests usually
(but not absolutely always, at least in the case of limited instances
of coastal redwoods) contain a broad mixture of trees and understory.
Understory plants may, however, return...if they are not weeded out by
the timber companies as nutrient competition for the trees.

There are forestry companies that have actually done good harvesting
for many years. Before being purchased by junk bond king Charles
Hurwitz, Pacific Lumber up in Humboldt County, CA, had what was usually
considered a sustainable and relatively environmentally-friendly
operation in the redwoods and Doug firs, people had jobs and lumber,
and animals had homes. Hurwitz changed all that.

Bruce Jensen

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I just now checked Fourmilab's Earth View.There is still a lot of Ice at
the North Pole.Some of it has melted,but it is all part of the Natural
Cycle of Earth.Earth does warm up between about one to two degrees
sometimes,it is all Normal and Natural.Humans have Nothing to do with
that at all.Every time a Volcano belches,there is more "pollution" in
the Air than Humans can ever do.Get Real,,, Get a Life.
cuhulin

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Even if allowed to grow, plantations are typically one or two kinds of
trees, as opposed to a complex mixture. Old Growth forests usually
(but not absolutely always, at least in the case of limited instances
of coastal redwoods) contain a broad mixture of trees and understory.
Understory plants may, however, return...if they are not weeded out by
the timber companies as nutrient competition for the trees.

I know all about understory. I own 30 acres in Wisc. that was select cut
about 8-10 years ago and is pretty overgrown, not too bad but its noticable.
Theres a 70 acre parcel next to me that has never been logged and has
virtually no understory to speak of. Another 40 acre parcel by me was clear
cut and is overgrown with scrub making it virtually unpenetratable. The deer
love it though.