"switcher" wrote in message
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http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/oc/

I put some pictures of self made loops

with pvc pipe or hulahoop !

Cool! Looks simple to make and inexpensive. How do you raise the antennas,
do you have them on your roof or somewhere else?

Jackie

"Frank Halaburak" wrote in message
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Hi there Jim

That sounds almost incredible. You picked an additional 45 brand new
stations with this new loop?? I mean that's extremely incredible. It's
like having a brand new radio! I want one then for sure.

Amazed
Lucky
Hi Lucky, tquchina on ebay has them listed for $16.90



Thanks all for reponding. Too bad this is just for the MW band. I might
still still try it.
I going to wait on some more reviews.
I built my own loop too. I used copper tubing for the main loop and heavy
wire for in the 2nd loop. It works OK but it's so big and bulky it's a
hassle to use in the room.

I have to constantly turn it and use the adjust the resistor for each
frequncy. It was fun to build though. I built it when I first got into SW
and had visions of picking up far away planets with it

It's good for when it's raining bad and you still want to pick up certain
stations.

Lucky

An untuned air core loop like the Wellbrook works well beyond the
shortwave band.

I can see someone getting twice as many AM BCB stations with a loop
antenna since they have good nulls. The stations were probably there
all along, but unlistenable due to multiple stations on the same
frequency. Put the offending station in the null and you get a new
signal.

In some locations of the bay area, you can hear two TIS on the same
frequency. With the wellbrook, you can null one to hear the other. Er,
not that you really need to hear those things. I can listen to those
TIS for about 25 miles in the daytime with the Wellbrook. I've posted
this before, but this is a recording of the LAX TIS that I did from
central Nevada, about 90 miles north of Las Vegas.
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/lax_530_etgravel.wav

Telamon wrote:
In article et,
"Jim Hackett" wrote:

I only had about an hour to play with it but in a word, I would say WOW! I
used my DE-1103 to obtain the results. I tuned from 520-1710 counting all
the stations I could understand. Here are my initial results:

Without the TG-33 I received 45 stations here in San Jose.
Using the TG-33 inductively coupled to the 1103 I received 96 different
stations. That is more than DOUBLE! I haven't done any other kind of
testing yet. I will do more tomorrow.

I have a Radio Shack passive loop that I thought worked pretty well but this
is MUCH better. With the appx. 15 ft. cable you can get the antenna high up
in the air. The only thing it lacks is a way to attach it to the radio. I
used a small stick-on Velcro fastener to accomplish this. Maybe Degen will
include this later. I don't know how much this unit will cost but I would
suspect that it would be comparable to their shortwave loop antenna but I'm
only guessing.

Small amplified loop antennas are the way to go for medium wave and at
least the lower SW bands where local noise competes more with signals.

For the same reason they should be better for LW.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

An untuned air core loop like the Wellbrook works well beyond the
shortwave band.

I can see someone getting twice as many AM BCB stations with a loop
antenna since they have good nulls. The stations were probably there
all along, but unlistenable due to multiple stations on the same
frequency. Put the offending station in the null and you get a new
signal.

In some locations of the bay area, you can hear two TIS on the same
frequency. With the wellbrook, you can null one to hear the other. Er,
not that you really need to hear those things. I can listen to those
TIS for about 25 miles in the daytime with the Wellbrook. I've posted
this before, but this is a recording of the LAX TIS that I did from
central Nevada, about 90 miles north of Las Vegas.
http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/lax_530_etgravel.wav

Telamon wrote:
In article et,
"Jim Hackett" wrote:

I only had about an hour to play with it but in a word, I would say WOW! I
used my DE-1103 to obtain the results. I tuned from 520-1710 counting all
the stations I could understand. Here are my initial results:

Without the TG-33 I received 45 stations here in San Jose.
Using the TG-33 inductively coupled to the 1103 I received 96 different
stations. That is more than DOUBLE! I haven't done any other kind of
testing yet. I will do more tomorrow.

I have a Radio Shack passive loop that I thought worked pretty well but this
is MUCH better. With the appx. 15 ft. cable you can get the antenna high up
in the air. The only thing it lacks is a way to attach it to the radio. I
used a small stick-on Velcro fastener to accomplish this. Maybe Degen will
include this later. I don't know how much this unit will cost but I would
suspect that it would be comparable to their shortwave loop antenna but I'm
only guessing.

Small amplified loop antennas are the way to go for medium wave and at
least the lower SW bands where local noise competes more with signals.

For the same reason they should be better for LW.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

ABOUT - The TG33 In-Door AM/BCB Medium Wave Active Loop Antenna

The TG33 - Is special designed and manufactured by a Chinese company,
it is perfect for the Medium Wave Band (AM/BCB) Signal Reception using!
? Manufactured by a Chinese Company = Degen / Kaito /Tecsun / ______ ?

TG33 - Frequency Coverage: 520 kHz - 1710 kHz
Weight: approx. 180g (without battery)
Power Supply : Two(2) AAA Size 1.5V Batteries

The TG33 - With this TG33 In-Door Medium Wave Active Loop Antenna, will
improve the reception on the Medium Wave Band (AM/BCB) between 520 kHz
to 1710 kHz for any AM/MW/BCBC Radios when compared to it's built-in
(internal) Ferrite Rod AM/MW Antenna.

eBay Auction Item # 5851728430

The TG33 - It works with the any Radios that have the Medium Wave Band
(AM/BCB).
* The AM/MW Signal from the Antenna can be Coupled to the Radio via
the Built-In (Internal) Ferrite Rod Loop-Stick Antenna.
* Also there is an Additional Adapter Cable for some AM/MW Radios
which use Binding Posts as the External Medium Wave Band (AM/BCB)
Antenna Input Jack.
* Plus there is a 15 Foot long Connecting Cable that comes with the
Antenna that connects the Loop Antenna Element to the Control Module.
* Which allow the you can Hang-Up the Soft Loop of the Antenna
in-the-Air to get better AM/MW/BCB Reception.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TG33-INDOOR-MEDI...temZ5851728430


The TG33 - Coming with the following items in the Original Package (No
Batteries), Operation Manual in English is provided!
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ5851728430

NOTE - The TG33 would appear to be a "Window Loop" like the Degen DE31
Shortwave Loop Antenna
http://i22.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/e9/9c/9e_1.JPG

FYI - This Message is being Posted for Informational Purposes Only
- Use the Information at your own discretion.

NOTICE - This is NOT my eBay Auction and
I am NOT associated with this eBay Seller.

FWIW - The above is a basic re-write of an eBay Listing in-order to
clarify some of the English Language terms and usage related to Radio.


CAUTION - I Am Not Responsible For Any Errors Or Omissions [.]


hope this helps - iane ~ RHF

Hi, folks.
as a new member I want to inform you, that I have been in
correspondence with TaoQ since I received the Degen DE31 Short Wave
Active Loop Antenna a couple of months ago.
I was very positively astonished at its performance, and after writing
a few emails to TaoQ, he sent to me the new TG33 AM/MW Band Active Loop
Antenna to be tested.
I performed a few tests using my TEN-TEC RX340 HF DSP RECEIVER, and I
must admit, that it was the best proximate antenna, I ever had in my
possession. I am a 68 year old veteran DX-listener ( since 1970 ) and a
keen antenna builder myself, but never managed to construct anything
near as good antenna, as these two miniature aerials are!
I have built a few antenna amplifier kits and A.T.U.:s, but as they
facilitate the readability a lot, I now have the possibility to receive
more clear signals than ever before!
It may be possible for you, if interested, to contact TaoQ by email at:
. Tell my regards to him, please.
Aimo Ruoho, , or shorter:
, or
73, Aimo

To Lucky: Degen has the DE31 Short Wave Active Antenna, too, for you to
try for USD 16,90! You will find it in ebay, also, if you have the
interest.
I have it . I tested it yesterday on my roof on the fourth floor of my
row house. It is the 1! It is working about as well in my listening
room... A big surprise to me, really!
Aimo ( )