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"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Again with the problem of how AMBCB sounds. AMBCB sounds just fine.

Even when music is available on FM, such as Mexico (loads of music
stations
still there) the younger audience does not listen. In fact, FM
listening
in
Mexico is higher than that of the US! It is nearly all about quality
of
the
sound, not the programming... because most Mexican cities have more
viable
AM signals than US cities do.

Maybe it is just that FM is stereo.

Most FM listening in the US is not stereo.

Ok then what is the reason? The reason is not sound quality because it
is OK for the program material.

FM in mono sounds better, even on a clock radio.

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

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I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per se.

Maybe this is an effort to kill talk radio where people can get the
political right point of view. The leftists have TV, newspapers, and FM
covered. It's only on AM band that Air America can't make it.

That is a political question.

David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' since c.2000 and impatiently
waiting for AM radio's death notice wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Because he's a shill, plain and simple. You know this, I know this.

No, because I do not know the specifics on the interference to WLS. When
Peter gives me them, I will have our Chicago DoE check, and meybe something
interesting will come from this.

He's been given something to sell, and by god he's gonna sell it to you,
me, and
everyone else, whether we like it or not.

I have not been given anything to sell. However, I believe AM is dead unless
HD works.

Stuff your panty hose in it, shill.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message

{content stipulated.}

So, let me put it this way....WLS is strong in Lake County. Even though
the signal is not 15mv/m. Lake County listenership is high, and WLS is a
strong radio station, here. And yet, here, HD rash has been encroaching on
WLS, to the degree that it's now sometimes virtually impossible to hear,
much less enjoy....and this HD rash is coming from another radio station.
You telling me this is acceptable? Even when WLS, itself is NOT
transmitting HD and so no digital solution is available? (the C-Quam pilot
is still lit and the station is still in stereo, even as of 00:30 UTC
today.

What station? I'm curious about this...

I'm having trouble receiving WLS. The offending station, I'm not
sure. I can't make out much due to the IBOC rash from there down.

I'd be interested in what your engineer has to say.

I can send you audio files of the AM band from my location, if
you'd like.

This is not an easy discussion, and the first step is accepting that AM will
not exist in 10 years or less if something is not done. There is no other
solution than HD. Either it works, or the band dies. Nobody is coming into
the party, and the ones already there are undesirable to advertisers.

If things were that dire, it would make sense to have a less
intrusive/obtrusive implementation strategy. Disenfranchising local
listening with digital noise on a band that's fighting for it's
survival, is like everything that's been done to AM in the last 30
years: shortsighted, and ultimately, counterproductive.

Taking your scenario one step further... if AM is truly on it's last,
tentative legs, and AM stations of significant investment are in dire
straits, and if the large companies are beginning to move AM stations
to the FM band, where, say, in Chicago would stations like WBBM, WGN,
WSCR, WLS go? There are no open allocations. And it's not like there are
any allocations that would be worthy of sacrifice. And Young Talk was
tried here. It failed dismally. (Ask Turi Ryder how many times she's
been here.) Where would that content go? Where would Rush, Hannity,
Levin, or even Franken, Rhodes, Springer and Malloy go?

More to the point, if AM is over in 10 or less, and you're looking at
a 5 year implementation, do you really think that there's a chance in
less than 5 years remaining you can rebuild what you've lost?

David, I certainly see how you've arrived at your conclusions, Radio
being what it has always been and all...but what you're describing is a
roll of the dice with far greater chance of crapping out than staying in
the game. Almost entirely by serving the needs of advertisers and
broadcasters over the needs of listeners who ultimately carry the water.

And if Radio is really more about Radio than it is about the
audience, is it any wonder why listenership and revenues are eroding in
favor of alternative outlets? Non traditional outlets permitting mass
customization vs traditional radio where answers to complaints are met
with prepackaged corporate non responses, and listeners can be
disenfranchised by a statistician in a locked room.

Can you see now why I've turned down offers to return?

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Again with the problem of how AMBCB sounds. AMBCB sounds just fine.

Even when music is available on FM, such as Mexico (loads of music
stations
still there) the younger audience does not listen. In fact, FM
listening
in
Mexico is higher than that of the US! It is nearly all about quality
of
the
sound, not the programming... because most Mexican cities have more
viable
AM signals than US cities do.

Maybe it is just that FM is stereo.

Most FM listening in the US is not stereo.

Ok then what is the reason? The reason is not sound quality because it
is OK for the program material.

FM in mono sounds better, even on a clock radio.

It does not sound better to me. FM has a little more of a high end
response but that's about it. You sure as hell are not going to hear the
difference on a clock radio.

Like I said before AM sounds good. I don't see what the problem is with
the sound quality. The quality can go down when you go out of the area
but you won't consider that anyway because it is out of the market. I
find weak signal FM more annoying than weak signal AM. FM gets a pretty
loud background hiss on a weak signal when you turn up the volume.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

Snip

I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per se.

Well what do most people think then, that the voices are in their head?
Of course they think about radio. They have to take the time to tune the
stations in and program their favorites to memory.

Maybe this is an effort to kill talk radio where people can get the
political right point of view. The leftists have TV, newspapers, and FM
covered. It's only on AM band that Air America can't make it.

That is a political question.

Yeah, and one to think about. Maybe this is a deliberate destruction of
the AMBCB.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

Snip

I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per se.

Maybe this is an effort to kill talk radio where people can get the
political right point of view. The leftists have TV, newspapers, and FM
covered. It's only on AM band that Air America can't make it.

That is a political question.

Yes it is. Consequently, you'd better keep your mouth shut. You are
BUSTED, after all.

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' since c.2000 and shillmaster
for
HD/IBOC wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:

Listeners like you are not of any "value" to the local market. Since
ratings
show listening to stations by location, your listening to DX does not
help
the distant station... since your listening shows up in Grand Rapids,
not
in
the home market to the station.

At least he's not BUSTED!!

Whatever that means.

Are you DX's sock puppet? You both post the same gibberish, with no
content,
no facts, no suggestions and no information. You just are here to insult
others.

At least DX had a brief exchange about Niger today.

Yeah, and it beat all your IBOC crap, didn't it, Edweenie?

So where is the other 'R-75'? You said you had two (2).

Same place the first one is. Also have the remains of an R390, too.

Doesn't matter what receivers you have. You're still BUSTED.

David Eduardo wrote:

Irrelevant nonsense deleted.

This is not an easy discussion, and the first step is accepting that AM will
not exist in 10 years or less if something is not done.

This is actually a very easy discussion, and the first step is
accepting that you are BUSTED!

David Eduardo wrote:

FM in mono sounds better, even on a clock radio.

That's perfectly consistent with the fact that you're BUSTED.