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nobody wrote: In wrote: But in 1978 I wired the 2 bulbs in the each of the EXIT lights in the church in series. Congratulations, you probably bypassed a safety feature. If they're in parallel, if one burns out the other keeps going. In series, if one goes they're both out, and the exit sign is no longer visible. Thanks for the congratulations! Regarding safety: there are 6 exit lights, which had to be re-lamped 3 - 4 times per year. So the new wiring saved 25 (years) x 6 (lights) x 3.5 (relampings per year) or 525 trips up and down the ladder. It also kept hands and fingers out of electrically hot fixtures 525 times. Those fixtures are required to be on 24x7 - the only way to turn them off is at the breaker. So it saved 525 flips of the breaker - or more likely, it saved 525 instances of fingers inside a fixture that was electrically hot, human nature being what it is. The need for re-painting has also been reduced (more ladder climbing), but I cannot quantify that. With the old wiring, the wall and ceiling above the exit signs used to get dirty a lot sooner than it does now. Now with the above facts in mind, which do you think is safer? |
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Putting the bulbs in series seems to qualify as an improvement.
Perhaps that would not hold up in court, but we all know the law is an ass. On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 03:37:43 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: wrote: [ snip ] Now with the above facts in mind, which do you think is safer? That's the same logic that dictates about how much money the school board can save by NOT installing fire sprinklers in a school building. Jeff |
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that would be nice ,let the shcools burn down.
The way education is going its better to BBQ.... "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message .. . wrote: [ snip ] Now with the above facts in mind, which do you think is safer? That's the same logic that dictates about how much money the school board can save by NOT installing fire sprinklers in a school building. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" |
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 02:28:32 GMT, the renowned (Sven
Franklyn Weil) wrote: You then screw this entire thing into the socket. It's called a "bulb saver" and is essentially a tiny diode in series that chops the voltage across the bulb in half. snip The RMS voltage across the bulb is reduced by ~29%. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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In article ,
mentioned... On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 02:28:32 GMT, the renowned (Sven Franklyn Weil) wrote: You then screw this entire thing into the socket. It's called a "bulb saver" and is essentially a tiny diode in series that chops the voltage across the bulb in half. snip The RMS voltage across the bulb is reduced by ~29%. Ooh, DejaVu, I think we've had this discussion before... The bulb savers that I used back in the '70s were varistors. They slowed down the turn-on of the light. They were low resistance when warm, and high when cold. There was no diode. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
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In article ,
mentioned... nobody wrote: In wrote: But in 1978 I wired the 2 bulbs in the each of the EXIT lights in the church in series. Congratulations, you probably bypassed a safety feature. If they're in parallel, if one burns out the other keeps going. In series, if one goes they're both out, and the exit sign is no longer visible. Thanks for the congratulations! Regarding safety: there are 6 exit lights, which had to be re-lamped 3 - 4 times per year. So the new wiring saved 25 (years) x 6 (lights) x 3.5 (relampings per year) or 525 trips up and down the ladder. It also kept hands and fingers out of electrically hot fixtures 525 times. Those fixtures are required to be on 24x7 - the only way to turn them off is at the breaker. So it saved 525 flips of the breaker - or more likely, it saved 525 instances of fingers inside a fixture that was electrically hot, human nature being what it is. The need for re-painting has also been reduced (more ladder climbing), but I cannot quantify that. With the old wiring, the wall and ceiling above the exit signs used to get dirty a lot sooner than it does now. Now with the above facts in mind, which do you think is safer? Neither. Nowadays they put the exit signs down low, because the rising smoke from the fire fills up the rooms and the exit signs can't be seen. :-( Hey, I agree with you. But instead, I would have used higher voltage lamps, two in parallel. Decent LEDs were hard to get back in the '70s. Another solution might be to use neon lamps. -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
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In article ,
mentioned... wrote: [ snip ] Now with the above facts in mind, which do you think is safer? That's the same logic that dictates about how much money the school board can save by NOT installing fire sprinklers in a school building. Jeff I dunno about where you live, but I believe Calif. state law requires that sprinklers be installed, so the school board has no choice. And even if there was no law, the school board would have to submit the building or remodeling plans for approval to the state board of education, and that would be the end of it. If it didn't meet their approval, it would be sent back to the architect for additions or changes. The fire chief told us that the architect did something really stupid. They spec'd that sprinklers be installed in our computer room, which is protected by a 'halon' system. So if there's a fire, all the equipment gets water damaged. Stoopid. But the sprinklers are there, just in case.. -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
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In article ,
mentioned... Putting the bulbs in series seems to qualify as an improvement. Perhaps that would not hold up in court, but we all know the law is an ass. No, the law _is_ the law. How the idiot lawyers and judges interpret it is another matter. Not a subject for discussion here, tho. On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 03:37:43 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: wrote: [ snip ] Now with the above facts in mind, which do you think is safer? That's the same logic that dictates about how much money the school board can save by NOT installing fire sprinklers in a school building. Jeff -- @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@ h@e@r@e@@ ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:### http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/e...s/databank.htm My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 at hotmail.com Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half). http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did! Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html @@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@ u@e@n@t@@ |
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