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On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:56:42 -0400, Mike Coslo
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:06:52 GMT, TUFF (John
Goller, k9uwa) wrote:


In article 1drqc.112183$Ik.9147885@attbi_s53,
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John k9uwa


Forgot one...
the Dayton Convention Buro .. sets the prices that the Hotels
Charge for Hamvention as well as all other Conventions..

100 bucks plus for a Holiday Inn Express ... is a little on the
high side!


I probably shouldn't tell you this John.

We stayed in Troy, 19 miles north on I 75 for 57.00 a night.

Our 2nd year in that location......15 minute drive.

Yup, I stayed in Middletown for 49.00/night. I didn't have any 3 or 4
night minimum either.

This is only my second year at Dayton, so I can't comment on any "glory
days" but:

The flea had a lot more ham radio oriented stuff this year than last
year. Last year I wasn't sure if I was at a festival for vintage 486
computer sales and 1985 Motorola UHF handi-talkies or a Hamfest. The
flea was more interesting from a Ham outlook this year IMO.

Hara was doing a better job on the rest rooms compared to last year.
probably 50 percent less stink.

But Hara is without doubt getting old and run down. Presuming a person
is keeping their eyes open inside the building, it is obvious to see. I
can understand DARA's loyalty, but if Hara doesn't do some serious
upgrading soon, Dayton Hamfest will start to appear as old and run down
as the facilities it is held in.

Whilst I was enjoying an adult beverage in the Hara pub, I had
occasion to speak with the lovely young barmaid.

She said that the owner (of Hara) had died and that the heirs were in
the process of trying to sell the complex.

I don't know what that means for Hamvention's long term prospects,
however as was already mentioned, the commitee stated that the fest
would be held at Hara again next year.

The Hara parking lot where the flea is held is pretty sad. A couple
more years, and the macadam will be gone. You really have to watch your
step to keep from tripping on the potholes and non-level repairs.

Those mud wrestling pits....erm... parking lots beside the building are
pretty awful. I park at the Derelict mall and find that to be a pretty
good alternative.

But, I'll be there next year if all goes well.

- Mike KB3EIA -





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My impressions of Dayton this year:

* Yes the vendor flea market attendance definitely appeared to be down

* The rain on Saturday didn't help but what really doesn't help is when the
vendors pack up early and leave .. which causes fewer buyers to venture
outside ... which causes more vendors to pack up and leave ... which causes
fewer buyers to venture outside .., etc, etc. I was out there on Saturday
shopping and the vendors that bailed out got exactly $0.00 of my money.

* The flea market vendors are not supposed to leave early but many of them
get past the lax security. Note to DARA - its only a matter of time until
someone gets run over in the flea market lot during the next rainshower &
high-speed bailout by vendors who have been sitting in their truck drinking
beer all day. Guess who they're going to sue first ???

* Note 2 to DARA. Its obvious that many of the flea market spots are simply
parking spots for people with nothing to sell but who are too lazy to haul
their big fat asses from and to a real parking spot. This makes the flea
market much bigger than it needs to be and means that the overwhelmingly
out-of-shape buyers will be able to make fewer rounds of the flea market and
hence spend less money with the real vendors !

* Note 3 to DARA. You're doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work.

* Note 4 to DARA. If the event was held twice a year you can be sure I
would still take the 10 hour drive and attend both.

* All in all I had a fine time and came home with some new goodies.

* There were definitely fewer boatanchors to be had in the flea market this
year.

* There are always complaints about the Hara facility. I have always
assumed that the
Hara arena is used because its the cheapest and most convenient facility
available. If it was moved elsewhere and DARA had to increase the admission
by 10 cents to cover it, I'm afraid there are a large group of whiney hams
that
would scream bloody murder and refuse to to ever attend again. So lets
leave it at Hara unless there really is a better place for it.


John

On Thu, 27 May 2004 13:17:09 -0400, "John" wrote:

My impressions of Dayton this year:
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* Note 2 to DARA. Its obvious that many of the flea market spots are simply
parking spots for people with nothing to sell but who are too lazy to haul
their big fat asses from and to a real parking spot. This makes the flea
market much bigger than it needs to be and means that the overwhelmingly
out-of-shape buyers will be able to make fewer rounds of the flea market and
hence spend less money with the real vendors !

Something seen at many hamfests. Along with people in 3 wheel carts
from too many trips to Family Homestyle Buffet. There is one guy who
outgrew the Rascal scooter and uses a golf cart. Look at the bright
side: hamfests are one of the few places where you can buy 3XL
t-shirts.

I have to use a 3 wheel cart because I cannot walk more than a few yards
without pain. I hope you never become handicapped physically - We already
know about your mental state. I bet you wanted to be a bully on the
playground but were too little and now you think your not-so-smart comments
make you a man - well it doesn't - ps I did NOT attend Dayton.....
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 13:17:09 -0400, "John" wrote:

My impressions of Dayton this year:
...
* Note 2 to DARA. Its obvious that many of the flea market spots are
simply
parking spots for people with nothing to sell but who are too lazy to
haul
their big fat asses from and to a real parking spot. This makes the flea
market much bigger than it needs to be and means that the overwhelmingly
out-of-shape buyers will be able to make fewer rounds of the flea market
and
hence spend less money with the real vendors !

Something seen at many hamfests. Along with people in 3 wheel carts
from too many trips to Family Homestyle Buffet. There is one guy who
outgrew the Rascal scooter and uses a golf cart. Look at the bright
side: hamfests are one of the few places where you can buy 3XL
t-shirts.

I agree.. You need to seek some psychological help man.. you just make fun
of people to make yourself seem like a bigger person. someday you'll have a
condition and you'll know what it's like. Treat everyone like you would like
to be treated.


"Kenn" wrote in message
news:UrKvc.40681$eY2.32400@attbi_s02...
I have to use a 3 wheel cart because I cannot walk more than a few yards
without pain. I hope you never become handicapped physically - We already
know about your mental state. I bet you wanted to be a bully on the
playground but were too little and now you think your not-so-smart
comments
make you a man - well it doesn't - ps I did NOT attend Dayton.....
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 13:17:09 -0400, "John" wrote:

My impressions of Dayton this year:
...
* Note 2 to DARA. Its obvious that many of the flea market spots are
simply
parking spots for people with nothing to sell but who are too lazy to
haul
their big fat asses from and to a real parking spot. This makes the
flea
market much bigger than it needs to be and means that the
overwhelmingly
out-of-shape buyers will be able to make fewer rounds of the flea
market
and
hence spend less money with the real vendors !

Something seen at many hamfests. Along with people in 3 wheel carts
from too many trips to Family Homestyle Buffet. There is one guy who
outgrew the Rascal scooter and uses a golf cart. Look at the bright
side: hamfests are one of the few places where you can buy 3XL
t-shirts.