I moved here about seven months ago. There is not HOA, but some neighbors
are rather sensitive to how others keep their property in our modest street
of 34 homes on lots about 70 x 120. I just upgraded to General. So far, I've
got a 40m dipole that is just strung across the back of the roof, but I plan
to string it between a tree and the chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might be
worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.

GM

I moved here about seven months ago. There is not HOA, but some
neighbors are rather sensitive to how others keep their property in
our modest street of 34 homes on lots about 70 x 120. I just upgraded
to General. So far, I've got a 40m dipole that is just strung across
the back of the roof, but I plan to string it between a tree and the
chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might
be worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.



Do they know you're a ham? If not, you could just say its an SWL
antenna. or you could use as small wire as possible to make it fairly
invisible. Not sure what you can do about the feedline, though, for
invisibility... or you could try to put the feedpoint somewhere near an
object that could hide or mask it. I situations like yours, some sort
of vertical might be better....

I wish you luck. I know there are many things I haven't thought of
that may work for you.

Ed K7AAT

. So far, I've got a 40m dipole that is just strung across the back of the roof, but I plan
to string it between a tree and the chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might be
worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.


A friggin' WIRE ??? Wow your neighbors are one step away from the funny farm,
aren't they? Paranoia-ville, USA.
Ok, here's what you do, get a picure of a tower farm (check on the web, maybe
W0AIH is a good place to start, or try any of the big dxers listings on
QRZ.com). Then tell your neighbors (only if they ask, don't go looking for
trouble!!) you are thinking of a nice 80 ft tower/beam, but if the dipole
works ok you will probably just keep it. However, if there are any
interference complaints you will put up the tower to "get the antenna up and
away from their houses." And tell them if there are any complaints about a
friggin' piece of WIRE then what have you got to lose by putting up the beam
anyway?
Keep in mind - you only live once. Who do you want to be happy in your
paranoid neighborhood, you or your lousy neighbors?

Rick K2XT

Keep in mind - you only live once. Who do you want to be happy in
your paranoid neighborhood, you or your lousy neighbors?

Rick K2XT



Rick, sometimes the two do not go hand in hand. If you want to be
happy, sometimes you need keep your neighbors happy, too. Neighbors can
make your life hell if you allow the relationship to deteriorate to that
point. Whether or not you are right or wrong, one really doesn't need to
make enemies of those who live close by.


Ed K7AAT

Rick, sometimes the two do not go hand in hand. If you want to be
happy, sometimes you need keep your neighbors happy, too.

Ed - So you sit there with happy neighbors, huh?
And with your ham rig with no antenna. Some friends those neighbors are.
So if they are really worth having as friends they won't give you trouble
about a silly wire running off your roof.

Rick

(Rick) wrote in news:460da3b4.34290843
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Rick, sometimes the two do not go hand in hand. If you want to be
happy, sometimes you need keep your neighbors happy, too.

Ed - So you sit there with happy neighbors, huh?
And with your ham rig with no antenna. Some friends those neighbors
are.
So if they are really worth having as friends they won't give you
trouble
about a silly wire running off your roof.

Rick


Yeah, my neighbors and I get along... mainly because I dont "Tell"
them what not to do or complain about, nor do I threaten them with an
even bigger antenna if they complain about what I already have....


Ed

"garlicman" None wrote in message
. ..
I moved here about seven months ago. There is not HOA, but some neighbors
are rather sensitive to how others keep their property in our modest
street
of 34 homes on lots about 70 x 120. I just upgraded to General. So far,
I've
got a 40m dipole that is just strung across the back of the roof, but I
plan
to string it between a tree and the chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might be
worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.

Reverse psychology. You make sure they're glad you're a ham.

You help one neighbor correctly wire an outside GFCI receptacle because you
know how and he doesn't (and he's already tripped the branch breaker six
times with his attempts); you give another neighbor your old CB antenna for
his boat (and you were done with it, anyway); you put an F-series connector
on a piece of RG-6 so the next neighbor can hook up her cable modem in a new
room (and she's a babe, too); you reflow the solder pads on a PC-mount RCA
jack because your neighbor's kid keeps pushing the plug of his video game
into the TV too hard (three times so far -- last time I gave it back with
two short pigtail jumpers so he wouldn't do it again.).

Four neighbors, four stories, all true and there are more. Heck, I could
put an air-search radar antenna on my roof and they wouldn't say anything!

On Mar 31, 1:24 am, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:
"garlicman" None wrote in message

. ..

I moved here about seven months ago. There is not HOA, but some neighbors
are rather sensitive to how others keep their property in our modest
street
of 34 homes on lots about 70 x 120. I just upgraded to General. So far,
I've
got a 40m dipole that is just strung across the back of the roof, but I
plan
to string it between a tree and the chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might be
worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.

Reverse psychology. You make sure they're glad you're a ham.

You help one neighbor correctly wire an outside GFCI receptacle because you
know how and he doesn't (and he's already tripped the branch breaker six
times with his attempts); you give another neighbor your old CB antenna for
his boat (and you were done with it, anyway); you put an F-series connector
on a piece of RG-6 so the next neighbor can hook up her cable modem in a new
room (and she's a babe, too); you reflow the solder pads on a PC-mount RCA
jack because your neighbor's kid keeps pushing the plug of his video game
into the TV too hard (three times so far -- last time I gave it back with
two short pigtail jumpers so he wouldn't do it again.).

Four neighbors, four stories, all true and there are more. Heck, I could
put an air-search radar antenna on my roof and they wouldn't say anything!

Pretty much the same story here. occasionally. I get the new neighbor
that says something but the rest will put 'em straight. A little guilt
goes a long way too. I was accused of causing interference on their
TVs but I knew it wasn'.t me because I was on-the -air when they were
having problems. It turned out the guy that was complaining the
loudest had an antenna pre-amp on his tv that was breaking into
oscillation. i fed him a little humble pie but not too much. Since
then no problem.

Jimmie

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:15:17 -0700, "garlicman" None wrote:

I moved here about seven months ago. There is not HOA, but some neighbors
are rather sensitive to how others keep their property in our modest street
of 34 homes on lots about 70 x 120. I just upgraded to General. So far, I've
got a 40m dipole that is just strung across the back of the roof, but I plan
to string it between a tree and the chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might be
worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.

GM


Have the neighbors actually said anything? If not, don't worry about
it and enjoy.


--
73 for now
Buck, N4PGW
www.lumpuckeroo.com

On 2007-03-30, garlicman wrote:

got a 40m dipole that is just strung across the back of the roof, but I plan
to string it between a tree and the chimney when I get a chance.

I would appreciate your ideas on how to calm down neighbors that might be
worried about RF interference, appearance, and property value.

Wires are generally not noticeable at all and your neighbors probably will
not even know, even if strung in the front yard, especially if feed lines
are not hanging down too obtrusively.

I live in a neighborhood with no restrictions and have a 284' delta loop of
#16 copper clad steel line between three trees (one tree in my front yard is
my neighbor's with his permission), and unless you look you wouldn't know it
was there. When a neighbor two houses away said she thought she heard my
voice on the answering machine, I explained the situation (cheaply made, no
filter answering machines) and promptly ordered her a telephone line filter
which worked perfectly. She wanted to pay for it and I refused, believing
the $30 bought a lot of good will. (I actually have been here longer than
any of them and not the oldest by far.) Your offer to help sort out any
problems goes a long way, but no need to go around asking.

I wouldn't worry at all about a wire and if anyone complains of RFI
problems, help sort it out and eliminate it. After all, you may be their
only contact to the outside some day in an emergency.

....Edwin, KD5ZLB
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