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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
Radium hath wroth:
On Jul 15, 5:38 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Radium hath wroth: AFAIK, the main issue with AM is that it is much more vulnerable to magnetic disruptions than FM. Wrong. Take a magnet, any magnet. Wave it around your AM or FM radio. Hear anything different? You won't. Therefore, forget about magnetic disturbances. That's because this magnet isn't vibrating fast enough. If it were to vibrate at the carrier frequency, you would most likely hear something. Actually, what you'll hear is whatever is driving the magnet at the carrier frequency. For example, if you shove the magnet into a solenoid coil, and drive the coil at 1MHz, the magnet will move very slightly at 1MHz. However, the crud that you'll hear at 1MHz is coming from the solenoid coil, not the magnet. If the magnetic field cuts across some wire, that happens to be the antenna of your 1MHz receiver, then yes, you'll hear something, but only if it's moving at 1MHz. The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. If you've ever been hit by lightning, I don't think you'll find it very boring. With 8 million hits per day, chances are good that you'll get hit. Ummm... could you step outside for a moment? All you get are clicks and pops. Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also make the fur stand up on your back. If all you hear are clicks and pops, your receiver is comatose. When the sun emits a prominence, that prominence causes high-power waves of magnetic energy in the RF region to be emitted. These waves can be heard on the AM radio on Earth. This is the sound that affects CBs and other radio receivers using AM. Ummm... coronal mass ejections and solar flares are particles, not radio waves. The interference to radio communications is mostly from these particles effects on the ionospheric layers. There is some RF involved, but it's at microwave frequencies and requires a big radio telescope to see. http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2001/radiocme/ The main reason why anyone would prefer FM over AM is if they can't handle these terrifying sounds w/out going hysterical. Hmmm... All my communications radios except the aircraft navcom stuff is FM. Maybe that explains why I'm spending time explaining to you the basics. I'll try not to get too hysterical. There are some who have had emotionally-strong experiences with these sounds (...) Not a problem. Everyone knows that too much RF rots the brain and causes cancer of the vocabulary. Anyone involved in RF has to be insane or will shortly be insane. (chop...) We tend to enjoy what we fear. At times. I don't fear anything, so that might explain why I'm not enjoying myself. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
If you've ever been hit by lightning, I don't think you'll find it very boring. With 8 million hits per day, chances are good that you'll get hit. Ummm... could you step outside for a moment? Reminds me of an afternoon when I was 600 ft up a 1,000 ft TV tower climbing on the inside. The tower took a hit and the lightning bolt followed a aircraft cable hoist line down the inside of the tower. Right between my legs. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 15, 6:58 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Radium hath wroth: The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. All you get are clicks and pops. Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also make the fur stand up on your back. One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. FM video receivers receive Y [luminance] signals present on FM radio waves. Electrical disturbances affect the FM video receiver causing those beautifaul zapping and buzzing sawtooth patterns on the screen. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
"Radium" wrote in message oups.com... | On Jul 15, 6:58 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote: | | Radium hath wroth: | | The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. | All you get are clicks | and pops. | | Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, | crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the | accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also | make the fur stand up on your back. | | One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that | show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. FM video | receivers receive Y [luminance] signals present on FM radio waves. | Electrical disturbances affect the FM video receiver causing those | beautifaul zapping and buzzing sawtooth patterns on the screen. The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. BTW my grand daughter had that figured out by the time she was 12 y.o. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
"NotMe" wrote in message ... "Radium" wrote in message oups.com... | On Jul 15, 6:58 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote: | | Radium hath wroth: | | The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. | All you get are clicks | and pops. | | Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, | crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the | accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also | make the fur stand up on your back. | | One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that | show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. FM video | receivers receive Y [luminance] signals present on FM radio waves. | Electrical disturbances affect the FM video receiver causing those | beautifaul zapping and buzzing sawtooth patterns on the screen. The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. BTW my grand daughter had that figured out by the time she was 12 y.o. Analog satellite still uses FM, but there is very little of that left. 30MHz wide channels. Think there used to be one version of SECAM (in France, IIRC) that used FM video. That's gone now, too. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 16, 7:36 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
Analog satellite still uses FM, but there is very little of that left. 30MHz wide channels. Think there used to be one version of SECAM (in France, IIRC) that used FM video. That's gone now, too. Actually SECAM also uses AM for the luminance signal. However, it uses FM for the color [chroma] signal. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 16, 6:07 pm, "NotMe" wrote:
The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. I want it to be the opposite. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote:
On Jul 16, 6:07 pm, "NotMe" wrote: The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. I want it to be the opposite. I want you to go away until you at least have a high school education in science and techology and learn how to use Google. I don't think either is going to happen. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
"Radium" wrote in message oups.com... One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. When, pray tell, have you ever seen an "FM video receiver"? Bob M. |
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