"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
Indeed, the bell jar, being made of the large molecules of our matter
would appear as a very large screen, or even like a layer of gravel to a
liquid/gas, to the quantum-structure-nature of ether ...

Consider that the ether may be made out of exotic dark
matter capable of occupying the same space as the glass
in the jar, indeed providing the very structure that
allows the glass to exist in the form that we perceive.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Sure, Why not just spray paint the inside of the jar? Or use Houdini's
black cloth. Experiments like that prove that "medium" can only tend to
hinder photons. Hence photons travel best without ether. How does ether
affect the velocity factor of light?

Can't find my ether pump anyway, so we have do these experiments virtually.

JB wrote:
... How does ether
affect the velocity factor of light?

Can't find my ether pump anyway, so we have do these experiments virtually.

Yeah, beginning there would be good, baby steps, at first ...

In the same way air affects the speed of sound, it limits its speed.

In some common units:

670,616,629.4 miles per hour.

983,571,056.4 feet per second (roughly one foot per nanosecond.)

186,282.397 miles per second.

I think the particles of a photon pass though the ether unhindered, why?
Now that is part of the whole question, isn't it ... perhaps it does
really "travel" at all ... there is that "odd statement" by Einstein,
motion cannot be held against the ether, for any logical observation.

Ether, apparently, is a true "lossless media" in the propagation of
waves ... well, that is how it appears from observation.

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
... perhaps it does
really "travel" at all ...
Regards,
JS

Does = doesn't ... but then, you already knew that.

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
I think the particles of a photon pass though the ether unhindered, why?

Without the ether a photon would certainly be "hindered". :-)
How many photons have you ever known to leave the universe?
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

On Sep 22, 1:36*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
I think the particles of a photon pass though the ether unhindered, why?

Without the ether a photon would certainly be "hindered". :-)
How many photons have you ever known to leave the universe?

That would be the total sum of all photons that have ever passed
beyond the event horizons of all black holes in the universe. That
might turn out to be quite a few photons.

wrote:
That would be the total sum of all photons that have ever passed
beyond the event horizons of all black holes in the universe. That
might turn out to be quite a few photons.

I don't consider black holes to be outside of the universe.
In fact, massive black holes are the opposite of "absolute
nothing". They are so massive, they have collapsed the
structure of space, i.e. the ether.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

On Sep 22, 1:36*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
I think the particles of a photon pass though the ether unhindered, why?

Without the ether a photon would certainly be "hindered". :-)
How many photons have you ever known to leave the universe?
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73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

By the way, do black holes swallow ether which passes beyong the event
horizon of a black hole? That doesn't make sense since light *enters*
the black holes due to high force. Then the ether must remain intact
on both sides of the event horizon. Might Einstein have been talking
about the ether of being the FORCE of gravity itself (in our point of
reference), which would be an abstract ether, not a physical one?

wrote:
By the way, do black holes swallow ether which passes beyond the event
horizon of a black hole?

Yes, the structure of space collapses along with everything else.

Might Einstein have been talking
about the ether of being the FORCE of gravity itself (in our point of
reference), which would be an abstract ether, not a physical one?

All you have to prove is that gravity can warp an abstraction.
Does gravity warp God?
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Cecil Moore wrote:


All you have to prove is that gravity can warp an abstraction.
Does gravity warp God?

God IS warped, well, at least his sense of humor ... ;-)

Regards,
JS

JB wrote:
Hence photons travel best without ether.

Photons cannot travel at all without ether because
the absence of ether means there is nothing through
which to travel. Photons simply cannot travel outside
of the universe into absolute nothingness.

How does ether affect the velocity factor of light?

The velocity factor of free space ether is 1.0.
The velocity factor of absolute nothing is zero.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein