Cecil Moore wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
I'm also missing the citations about how mass is removed and gained
from antennas at the same time.

I gave those a few postings ago. Here they are again.

e = mc^2 energy supplied by the source

m = e/c^2 mass lost to radiation

That isn't a cite, that's a formula.

So I guess that you apply the idea that photons have mass.

Never mind.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:50:53 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

Never mind.

Hi Mike,

You are NEVER going to get a straight answer that reveals the height
of stupidity that originated the discussion. You couldn't sensibly
put enough zeros after the decimal on the written page to give the
mass.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:50:53 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

Never mind.

Hi Mike,

You are NEVER going to get a straight answer that reveals the height
of stupidity that originated the discussion. You couldn't sensibly
put enough zeros after the decimal on the written page to give the
mass.

'Twould appear that way. The concept that materials go away and come
back via energy applied to them is interesting. I suppose that the
energy applied to an aluminum wire by a copper wire ends up turning the
Aluminum into copper, while the power lines turn into whatever the
turbine generator's wires are, and the turbine itself eventually turns
into steam.

What is old is new again - the alchemists were right!

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:27:40 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

What is old is new again - the alchemists were right!

Hi Mike,

Of late, I have been reading Herman Melville's "The Confidence Man." I
won't go into the plot (it strained the conventions of the day -
1850s) but mention one vignette where a kid was hustling two gentlemen
on a river boat on the Mississippi. When the kid struck a deal, he
sweetened it with a pamphlet on how to recognize counterfeit paper
money.

It seems that pamphlets like this wete very necessary back when any
bank could print their own bills (something like the great hornswaggle
of Wall Street). The banks then had to print pamphlets on how to
recognize the exquisite detail work of engraving on their bills so you
would recognize the 'real stuff.'

What is interesting is that the counterfeiters wrote their own
pamphlets too, describing the exquisite details in their engraving....

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Mike Coslo wrote:
That isn't a cite, that's a formula.

It's a cite from Einstein, et al.

So I guess that you apply the idea that photons have mass.

Of course, photons have energy - therefore photons have mass.
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
That isn't a cite, that's a formula.

It's a cite from Einstein, et al.


So that's what his middle name is! 8^)

- 73 de Mike N3LI -