On 1/17/2014 12:22 PM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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Actually, the FCC doesn't limit towers to 200'. But anything over 200'
has to be lighted and registered so it can appear on air navigation
charts. Then there are all kinds of other hassles like ensuring the
lights are always working at nighttime and having to climb a tower in 10
degree F weather with a 20mph wind (on the ground) to replace a burned out
light bulb (I know - I had to do it when I was young and stupid and worked
on towers ).


Over here, we have always been limited to 50' within half a mile of any
aerodrome,
but that does not imply local authority permission for anything up to that
height!



Yes, there are additional limitations when close to airports, heliports,
etc. But rather than a fixed height like you have, ours varies
depending on the distance from the airport or heliport, and the size of
the longest runway of the airport. It varies from 25:1 (1 foot of
height for every 25 feet away) ratio for heliports to 100:1 for large
airports.

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The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.

WVIR's tower is neither!

https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv

On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:

The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.

WVIR's tower is neither!

https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv



Only if it is sheltered by another structure of greater height.

Otherwise, you are wrong (as usual).

And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler
and measure it?

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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:

The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.

WVIR's tower is neither!

https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv



Only if it is sheltered by another structure of greater height.

Otherwise, you are wrong (as usual).

And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler and
measure it?

You can look up the antenna registeration number. It is listed at whatever
height it is. Seem to remember 98 but not sure if feet or meters. It is
also listed to be painted and lighted to some offical antenna regulation.
Does not say if it is actually painted or lighted, just it meets the
standard.



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On 1/17/2014 8:05 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:

The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.

WVIR's tower is neither!

https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv



Only if it is sheltered by another structure of greater height.

Otherwise, you are wrong (as usual).

And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler and
measure it?

You can look up the antenna registeration number. It is listed at whatever
height it is. Seem to remember 98 but not sure if feet or meters. It is
also listed to be painted and lighted to some offical antenna regulation.
Does not say if it is actually painted or lighted, just it meets the
standard.



It's 98 meters - but it is shadowed by another tower just east of it
which is higher. Unfortunately, I don't know who owns that tower.

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On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:
The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.
WVIR's tower is neither!
https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv



And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler and
measure it?


Cue the old one about how to measure the height of a building with a
barometer, ISTR about 23 ways at the last count!

eg, apart from the obvious one, to time its descent from the top when
dropped under the acceleration of gravity, and finally to go to the
maintenance engineer and offer him the present of a lovely barometer if he'd
let you
look at the architect's drawings!

On 1/18/2014 6:05 AM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:
The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.
WVIR's tower is neither!
https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv



And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler and
measure it?


Cue the old one about how to measure the height of a building with a
barometer, ISTR about 23 ways at the last count!

eg, apart from the obvious one, to time its descent from the top when
dropped under the acceleration of gravity, and finally to go to the
maintenance engineer and offer him the present of a lovely barometer if he'd
let you
look at the architect's drawings!




I guess you landed on your head when you timed how long it took you to
dive off the top of the tower.

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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/18/2014 6:05 AM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:
The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.
WVIR's tower is neither!
https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv
And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler
and
measure it?
Cue the old one about how to measure the height of a building with a
barometer, ISTR about 23 ways at the last count!
eg, apart from the obvious one, to time its descent from the top when
dropped under the acceleration of gravity, and finally to go to the
maintenance engineer and offer him the present of a lovely barometer if
he'd
let you
look at the architect's drawings!

I guess you landed on your head when you timed how long it took you to
dive off the top of the tower.

You seem to misunderstand the illusion

On 1/18/2014 10:20 AM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/18/2014 6:05 AM, gareth wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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On 1/17/2014 6:37 PM, Channel Jumper wrote:
The towers do not always have to be lighted above 200' nor painted.
WVIR's tower is neither!
https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wvir-tv
And how do you know how tall it is? Did you get out your trust ruler
and
measure it?
Cue the old one about how to measure the height of a building with a
barometer, ISTR about 23 ways at the last count!
eg, apart from the obvious one, to time its descent from the top when
dropped under the acceleration of gravity, and finally to go to the
maintenance engineer and offer him the present of a lovely barometer if
he'd
let you
look at the architect's drawings!

I guess you landed on your head when you timed how long it took you to
dive off the top of the tower.

You seem to misunderstand the illusion



Nope, I understood it perfectly.

But you don't seem to understand the difference between 'illusion' and
'allusion'.

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