On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:34:44 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2016 11:07:03 -0700, Mike Ross wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 8:28:38 AM UTC-4, gareth wrote:
"joe" wrote:
gareth wrote:

I have in my possession a book entitled, "Antennae", published in
1942 by a lecturer to both King's College, London, and also to
various Brit government establishments.

At some point since then, the ignorance of either engineers or of
Yanks has tried to pass off, "Antennas" as the plural.

If we pride ourselves on the exactness of our principles, then it is
high time to correct this glaring error by the Yanks.

(Book being studied avidly, although with some necessary revision ov
vector field theory; div, curl and grad, anyone?)

From an online dictionary:

I guess that it would be a fair assumption, bearing in mind the
development of computers and, much later, the Internet, that your
online dictionaries originated several decades after 1942, and long
after the ignoramuses' error arose?

Um, wouldn't that be "ignorami"??

Clearly the attempt of a person lacking even the most elemental education
in the classics. The Latin word ignoramus is not a noun, and so cannot
be declined. Even if it were, its genitive plural is somthing quite
different.

Please, God, let this thread die!

In message , Jeff writes

From an online dictionary:

I guess that it would be a fair assumption, bearing in mind the development
of
computers and, much later, the Internet, that your online dictionaries
originated
several decades after 1942, and long after the ignoramuses' error arose?


Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.
The word 'aerial' was what was used domestically and generally in the TV
and radio industry. Certainly the electronics division of the company
EMI (Electric and Musical Industries) had an Aerial Section - and they
were responsible for the design, manufacture and installation of the TV
and FM aerials at many of the UK's transmitting stations (ERPs ranging
from megawatts to watts). The Marconi Company did most of what EMI
didn't do - and I'm sure they also called them 'aerials'.

These days, in the UK it is not uncommon for 'aerials' to be called
'antennas' by some communication companies - but it would be highly
unlikely for your average Joe Public to refer to any sort of TV or radio
aerial as an 'antenna'. Satellite antennas are, of course, called
'dishes'.
--
Ian

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]


--
Spike

Many persons have a wrong idea of what constitutes true happiness.
It is not attained through self-gratification but through fidelity to a
worthy purpose - Helen Keller

antenna

� noun (plural antennae )

1 Zoology a long, thin sensory appendage found in pairs on the heads of
insects and some other arthropods.

2 (plural also antennas) chiefly North American or technical an aerial.

3 (antennae) the faculty of instinctively detecting and interpreting subtle
signs: his political antennae remain as sharp as ever.

DERIVATIVES

antennal adjective

antennary adjective

ORIGIN

C17: from Latin, alteration of antemna 'yard' (of a ship), used in plural to
translate Greek keraioi 'horns (of insects)'.

Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.



--

Roger Hayter

Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.


I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

In message , Stephen Thomas Cole
writes
Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.


I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!


--
Ian

Brian Reay wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.


I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!


You need to watch some old War films, the kind Spike watches back to back
and before his metamorphosis into a pseudo Dr Kelly, used to model his life
history on.


I'll give that a pass, thanks.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

He wants a faucet on the head.

On 21/05/2016 23:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

Yes, I think it has more to do with the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.

Ian, I think you've just been savaged by a dead sheep.


--
Spike

Many persons have a wrong idea of what constitutes true happiness.
It is not attained through self-gratification but through fidelity to a
worthy purpose - Helen Keller