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Old February 19th 05, 09:02 PM
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"Cecil Moore" wrote
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Read the whole thing. It's eye opening.


Read the whole Bible. It's eye opening. Particularly
the part advocating stoning to death all adulterers.
Thou shalt not kill (except adulterers).


Allow me to introduce you to the New Testament, which while acknolwedging
the history and covenants formed in most of the Old Testament, includes the
spoken words of the Lord Jesus Christ, the one and only Savior. Taken as a
whole, these testaments together form the basis for Christianity.


Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all have the identical
God-head and share many books of the Bible. Allah,
Jehovah, and Yahweh are all the same divine entity,
a member of the Elohim (plural gods) clan. When Jesus
prayed in Aramaic, he prayed to Allah. Under Islam,
Jesus is considered to have been a great prophet.
Jesus' image hangs in many Islamic mosques.

Stirring up hatred for Islam is just as evil as stirring
up hatred for Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion.
It is definitely NOT what Jesus taught so you are not
following your religious teachings any better than
the Islamic terrorists are following their religious
teachings. Shame on you.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


I don't need to bring whatever religion (or lack thereof in 90% of liberals
and probably 50% of conservatives today) is followed in the United States in
order to argue for the destruction of Islam, before it destroys us. And if
you do insist on bringing up Christianity and calling me shameful or without
belief of the teachings of Christ, then please cite where you think Christ
wanted us to succumb to evil or murderous practice, whether on the highway
or by foreign invasion. Some duties He said were the job of the state, and
that is where our influence comes into play, as we are part of the state in
any system of self government. Bringing a highwayman to the magistrate (dead
or alive), foreign or domestic terrorists to trial (same condition applies),
or defeating a whole army of evil (read MUSLIM, socialist, communist, etc)
is the job of the state. I was a volunteer then and now for the "state". And
I am still a Christian, though it is no business of yours whether a religion
is the background for the #1 law of nature or not: self preservation. As a
people, as a country, and as any of the freely practiced religions
(including none at all for atheists) we are at war with Islam, whether you
admit this or not. There is enough evidence to convince a misbehaving child
of this fact, but you can certainly set a new standard for misbehavior
there - as long as you stay out of our way while the rest of us survive.

73, Jack


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Old February 20th 05, 12:38 AM
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Jack Painter wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote

Jack Painter wrote:

Read the whole thing. It's eye opening.


Read the whole Bible. It's eye opening. Particularly
the part advocating stoning to death all adulterers.
Thou shalt not kill (except adulterers).



Allow me to introduce you to the New Testament, which while acknolwedging
the history and covenants formed in most of the Old Testament, includes the
spoken words of the Lord Jesus Christ, the one and only Savior. Taken as a
whole, these testaments together form the basis for Christianity.


Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all have the identical
God-head and share many books of the Bible. Allah,
Jehovah, and Yahweh are all the same divine entity,
a member of the Elohim (plural gods) clan. When Jesus
prayed in Aramaic, he prayed to Allah. Under Islam,
Jesus is considered to have been a great prophet.
Jesus' image hangs in many Islamic mosques.

Stirring up hatred for Islam is just as evil as stirring
up hatred for Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion.
It is definitely NOT what Jesus taught so you are not
following your religious teachings any better than
the Islamic terrorists are following their religious
teachings. Shame on you.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



I don't need to bring whatever religion (or lack thereof in 90% of liberals
and probably 50% of conservatives today) is followed in the United States in
order to argue for the destruction of Islam, before it destroys us. And if
you do insist on bringing up Christianity and calling me shameful or without
belief of the teachings of Christ, then please cite where you think Christ
wanted us to succumb to evil or murderous practice, whether on the highway
or by foreign invasion. Some duties He said were the job of the state, and
that is where our influence comes into play, as we are part of the state in
any system of self government. Bringing a highwayman to the magistrate (dead
or alive), foreign or domestic terrorists to trial (same condition applies),
or defeating a whole army of evil (read MUSLIM, socialist, communist, etc)
is the job of the state. I was a volunteer then and now for the "state". And
I am still a Christian, though it is no business of yours whether a religion
is the background for the #1 law of nature or not: self preservation. As a
people, as a country, and as any of the freely practiced religions
(including none at all for atheists) we are at war with Islam, whether you
admit this or not. There is enough evidence to convince a misbehaving child
of this fact, but you can certainly set a new standard for misbehavior
there - as long as you stay out of our way while the rest of us survive.

73, Jack



One of the fastest growing religions in the U.S. today is Islam. Muslims
participate in all parts of society, including national defense. Like it
or not, Jack, your jihad against Islam is doomed to failure, just as
your sick version of Christianity is. The Wahhabists of Saudi Arabia
are certainly loathsome people, but you're not doing the world, or
yourself, a favor by patterning your behavior after them.

Tom Donaly, KA6RUH
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Old February 20th 05, 04:41 AM
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Jack Painter wrote:
I am still a Christian, ...


So am I, but unlike some people, I recognize the fact that
ALL religions are potentially dangerous to my inalienable
rights and political freedoms and very strongly believe in
complete and absolute separation of religion and state. The
Crusades were a bad idea and the state sponsored Holy War
that you are advocating is, IMO, a very bad idea. The Moslems
with whom I worked at Intel were good people.
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Jack Painter wrote:
... the Lord Jesus Christ, the one and only Savior.


If we had a sample of Jesus' DNA to analyze,
what secrets do you think it would reveal?
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Old February 21st 05, 02:37 PM
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That Joseph shagged Mary out of wedlock, and a large part
of the Western World were shown to be gullible fools by swallowing
the excuse that was hurriedly thought up?

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Jack Painter wrote:
... the Lord Jesus Christ, the one and only Savior.


If we had a sample of Jesus' DNA to analyze,
what secrets do you think it would reveal?





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Old February 21st 05, 04:13 PM
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Airy R.Bean wrote:
That Joseph shagged Mary out of wedlock, and a large part
of the Western World were shown to be gullible fools by swallowing
the excuse that was hurriedly thought up?


Angels using artificial insemmination? Does Jehovah
possess DNA?

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Angels haven't been seen since we started educating everybody
in the scientific method.

Strange that.

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Airy R.Bean wrote:
That Joseph shagged Mary out of wedlock, and a large part
of the Western World were shown to be gullible fools by swallowing
the excuse that was hurriedly thought up?

Angels using artificial insemmination? Does Jehovah
possess DNA?



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Old February 21st 05, 09:38 PM
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Airy R.Bean wrote:
Angels haven't been seen since we started educating everybody
in the scientific method. Strange that.


Maybe not so strange. Today we might recognize that
halo as a plastic helmet and those wings as oxygen
tanks (thus avoiding our germ-filled environment).
Everything that was reported in the Bible is possible
today except maybe for the raising of the dead but
CPR on individuals drowned in cold water comes close.
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