Ahhh, you open up yet another can of worms here Cecil.

Most don't believe in "space" (darn commie buggers probably don't believe in
Santa Claus either!) and simply consider it the absence of ALL "matter."
However, I think it is now also generally accepted, all the matter in the
universe was/is "ripped" (big bang?) from the very fabric of space--i.e.,
space existing in an "altered form."
Although, we effortlessly travel through it (in our "altered state of
being") it does have form and structure--simply one which is invisible and
undetectable to us mere mortals...

Warmest regards,
John

Let me give a more understandable example of the above... (and yes, this
DOES involve fantasy!)
If a fish leaps out of water, after effortless traversing the water (such as
we do the air), it appears to the fish that air is "space", i.e., the
absence of ALL matter... they, most likely, view us as "planetary bodies!"
We, being the fishes "Gods", know better... grin

Warmest regards,
John

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
| Ahhh, you open up yet another can of worms here Cecil.
|
| Most don't believe in "space" (darn commie buggers probably don't believe
in
| Santa Claus either!) and simply consider it the absence of ALL "matter."
| However, I think it is now also generally accepted, all the matter in the
| universe was/is "ripped" (big bang?) from the very fabric of space--i.e.,
| space existing in an "altered form."
| Although, we effortlessly travel through it (in our "altered state of
| being") it does have form and structure--simply one which is invisible and
| undetectable to us mere mortals...
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
|
|

or, some might interpret that last line, from the post above (We, being the
fishes "Gods", know better... ), to be, "We are no better than the fish!"
grin

Regards,
John

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
| Let me give a more understandable example of the above... (and yes, this
| DOES involve fantasy!)
| If a fish leaps out of water, after effortless traversing the water (such
as
| we do the air), it appears to the fish that air is "space", i.e., the
| absence of ALL matter... they, most likely, view us as "planetary bodies!"
| We, being the fishes "Gods", know better... grin
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
|
| "John Smith" wrote in message
| ...
|| Ahhh, you open up yet another can of worms here Cecil.
||
|| Most don't believe in "space" (darn commie buggers probably don't believe
| in
|| Santa Claus either!) and simply consider it the absence of ALL "matter."
|| However, I think it is now also generally accepted, all the matter in the
|| universe was/is "ripped" (big bang?) from the very fabric of
space--i.e.,
|| space existing in an "altered form."
|| Although, we effortlessly travel through it (in our "altered state of
|| being") it does have form and structure--simply one which is invisible
and
|| undetectable to us mere mortals...
||
|| Warmest regards,
|| John
||
||
|
|

It is generally accepted that EM waves
cannot propagate outside of the universe precisely because
of the absence of any structure (medium). Our medium of
space is thought to have at least ten dimensions.
--
73, Cecil

==============================

Life forms which think can have any number of dimensions.
Physical size is unrestricted. From quantum size upwards.

They are as fully equipped to handle their environments as humans are
equipped to handle theirs. Otherwise they wouldn't be there.

There's no reason why thinking life forms should not be as large as
the Galaxies or even Groups of Galaxies.

Groups of Galaxies have more than one head. Inevitably they are
exceedingly slow thinkers when measured in our time scales.

On the other hand, they have the Whole of Eternity in which to solve
their problems, dragging us puny insignificant creatures along with
them for one short microscopic period.

As experienced on this tiny Earth, they appear to be suffering from
epileptic fits at this moment in time.

Elementary Statistics should be the 4th most important subject taught
in our schools after reading, writing and doing sums.

Kids should be able to estimate the probabilty of being run over by a
bus when they cross a busy street.

Hope you get the drift of my thoughts before returning to the TLI.
;o)
----
Reg, G4FGQ

Yes, "how big is your yardstick?"
Imagine this, "I am now holding out a "yardstick" three-feet long--on an
atom of the plastic, in the keyboard I am typing on, and, on an electron of
that atom and circling its nucleus, is my counterpart, holding out his
"yardstick"--which he believes is three-feet long...
or, wait, is that my male ego just saying, "Mine is bigger than
yours--Na-na-na-Na!" grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
|
| It is generally accepted that EM waves
| cannot propagate outside of the universe precisely because
| of the absence of any structure (medium). Our medium of
| space is thought to have at least ten dimensions.
| --
| 73, Cecil
|
| ==============================
|
| Life forms which think can have any number of dimensions.
| Physical size is unrestricted. From quantum size upwards.
|
| They are as fully equipped to handle their environments as humans are
| equipped to handle theirs. Otherwise they wouldn't be there.
|
| There's no reason why thinking life forms should not be as large as
| the Galaxies or even Groups of Galaxies.
|
| Groups of Galaxies have more than one head. Inevitably they are
| exceedingly slow thinkers when measured in our time scales.
|
| On the other hand, they have the Whole of Eternity in which to solve
| their problems, dragging us puny insignificant creatures along with
| them for one short microscopic period.
|
| As experienced on this tiny Earth, they appear to be suffering from
| epileptic fits at this moment in time.
|
| Elementary Statistics should be the 4th most important subject taught
| in our schools after reading, writing and doing sums.
|
| Kids should be able to estimate the probabilty of being run over by a
| bus when they cross a busy street.
|
| Hope you get the drift of my thoughts before returning to the TLI.
| ;o)
| ----
| Reg, G4FGQ
|
|

I don't think it is that simple, I think every change causes complex
reactions--more than one varible starts moving on the map. For example, a
change which affects a "match", affects a reactance, affects apparent
impedance, etc. Too many times, at least a newbie like me, expects only one
varible to change--when in reality--it is "looking" like EVERYTHING is
moving!!!

And, I do suspect an ant can be "mentally modeled" as a balun--and
sucessfully delt with. I think current models are followed, mainly, because
of tradition--there are other ways to view this. "Impedance" looks a bit
like "time" to me.

But, right now that is just a "theory", but I will be playing around with
that idea...

Regards,
John

Even if there were such a thing as the 'ether' (there isn't;
elecromagnetic
waves don't need a medium to propagate),

I dunno, but doesn't this bring up 'particle theory vs wave theory'
waves require a medium to propogate (I would think) - and -
particles can be shot across a medium-less void
Maybe this will all go back to the 'previous discussion' ain't no such thing
as heat
and no such thing as time - and therefore anything else defined by using
either of those terms do not exist either.

John Smith wrote:
My antenna seems to match the impedance of my transmission line (50 ohms) to
the impedance of the either (370 some-odd-ohms), isn't that a balun?

Is the Æther balanced or unbalanced? Maybe balanced in free
space and unbalanced on Earth?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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That is why "UnUn" is in the subject, "Unbalanced-to-Unbalanced."

Or, was that just me feeling a bit unbalanced with all this "antenna
theory?" grin

Warmest regards,
John

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
That is why "UnUn" is in the subject, "Unbalanced-to-Unbalanced."

Or, was that just me feeling a bit unbalanced with all this "antenna
theory?" grin

So are you saying that - in theory - that a balun (or un-un) (or lets just
say "An impedence matching device") can serve to propogate RF into the
'ether' (free space) ?
Did you try it out in practice - to see if it works ?
What's the impedence of 'ether' ? didn't you mention something around
300-400 ohms ? If so was that at all freqs?