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Old May 8th 05, 03:14 PM
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What do i need to buy to reach the satellites for field day? I already have an HT Yasue FT-60R 5 watts.

What is a decent antenna and how do I track the satellite?

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Old May 8th 05, 03:22 PM
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Jennie:

Where have you been all my life? If you are taken, do you have sister which are single? grin
John
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Too bad the other 999,999 got there first.. frown

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Old May 8th 05, 04:09 PM
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Check the antennas at http://www.arrowantennas.com/146-437.html
"Jennie" wrote in message ...
What do i need to buy to reach the satellites for field day? I already have an HT Yasue FT-60R 5 watts.

What is a decent antenna and how do I track the satellite?

Thanks
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Old May 8th 05, 04:28 PM
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First you need a radio capable of 'full-duplex'(capable of hearing the
downlink while transmitting on the uplink), other wise you'll just add
to the qrm.

Second is a good gain antenna for both uplink and downlink frequencies.
The 'hand held' arrow antenna with diplexer is pretty good (
www.arrowantenna.com ) or you can make your own. (there are plans on
the internet try http://xe1mex.gq.nu/antenas/yagi.html to start).
[avoid the ELK antennas]

Third is to make at least a dozen QSO's over the satellite you plan to
use BEFORE field day. Conditions of field day are very rough and
inexpienced operators don't have a chance.

Go to the AMSAT web page www.amsat.org and look around for more tips.


Fred W4JLE wrote:
Check the antennas at http://www.arrowantennas.com/146-437.html
"Jennie" wrote in message

...
What do i need to buy to reach the satellites for field day? I

already have an HT Yasue FT-60R 5 watts.

What is a decent antenna and how do I track the satellite?

Thanks


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Old May 10th 05, 06:46 PM
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In article ,
John Smith wrote:

| Where have you been all my life? If you are taken, do you have
| sister which are single? grin

Translation: if you're a female, and in ham radio or some other male
dominated hobby, better hide your sex, or people will do this sort of
thing. I realize that you're kidding, John, but even so, it runs the
women off, fast.

Answer to the question ...

You might be able to work the ISS with your setup right now. Except
that it's always in packet mode nowadays ...

But beyond that, you ought to be able to work many of the low Earth
orbit satellites just by adding a directional antenna. The Arrow
Antenna 2m/70cm antenna is very popular for that, or there's a number
of sites out there with instructions for making similar antennas.
Google is your friend.

--
Doug McLaren,
$__
(o0)
/||\ when Cthulhu calls...he calls collect


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Old May 10th 05, 06:57 PM
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In article .com,
Terl wrote:

| First you need a radio capable of 'full-duplex'(capable of hearing the
| downlink while transmitting on the uplink), other wise you'll just add
| to the qrm.

It's hardly essential. It's nice, but not essential. After all, most
people work the local repeaters without doing full duplex. Of course,
in that case, the repeater is usually not 200+ miles away, and
probably has 1000 watts instead of 1 watt, and probably doesn't have
10 people trying to hit it at once, but the principal is the same.

But the LEO satellites seem to be very busy unless it's the middle of
the night, and so being able to hear if you're even hitting it (or if
you're interfering with somebody else) will be very useful. But not
essential.

I suspect that what Terl is trying to state that since they're
generally so busy, if you can't do it `right', don't do it at all and
let somebody else do it. But you can do it easily enough _without_
full duplex.

You also don't _need_ a radio that can do full duplex. If you have
two radios, you can transmit with one and receive with another.
Sometimes even a standard scanner will work as the receiver, though
often they're not very sensitive.

As for how to track the satellite, your prediction program will
probably give you the approximate path of the satellite across the sky
over time. Point your antenna there. You don't need to be exact, but
you should be able to get an idea of how close you are by the strength
of the signal you receive.

The really serious people have computerized trackers, but you
certainly don't need that unless you have really high gain antennas.
(Which would probably be too big to hold in the VHF/UHF bands.)

--
Doug McLaren, , AD5RH
There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
most of us won't be able to afford it.
-- Lemmy
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Old May 11th 05, 12:15 AM
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Doug:

I have never found "it runs the women off fast" to be of any real
importance--granted, it may run the ones off which take themselves far too
seriously--or, even the ones who have some "axe to grind" and are naturally
tending towards a male/female conflict--but think about--those are best
avoided anyway!

Better to find this out right up front...

Warmest regards,
John
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When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!!

"Doug McLaren" wrote in message
...
| In article ,
| John Smith wrote:
|
|| Where have you been all my life? If you are taken, do you have
|| sister which are single? grin
|
| Translation: if you're a female, and in ham radio or some other male
| dominated hobby, better hide your sex, or people will do this sort of
| thing. I realize that you're kidding, John, but even so, it runs the
| women off, fast.
|
| Answer to the question ...
|
| You might be able to work the ISS with your setup right now. Except
| that it's always in packet mode nowadays ...
|
| But beyond that, you ought to be able to work many of the low Earth
| orbit satellites just by adding a directional antenna. The Arrow
| Antenna 2m/70cm antenna is very popular for that, or there's a number
| of sites out there with instructions for making similar antennas.
| Google is your friend.
|
| --
| Doug McLaren,
| $__
| (o0)
| /||\ when Cthulhu calls...he calls collect


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Old May 11th 05, 12:23 AM
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.... and I should have pointed out, "There is nothing wrong with women like
that..." Just stops everyone from confusion and being able to claim, "I
didn't know he/she was like that!"

However, I am involved directly in technical classes at a jr. college... the
ratio of women to men is VERY LOW at higher classes--this is fact--not
fiction--and my comment was more to that area... pointing out that
technical minded men just might miss female colleges...

.... indeed, I think a sexist comment would be one discouraging women from
certain areas of society--not encouraging them--and pointing out they are
desirable to have there... or, a condensending/shallow/protectionist
comment for womens' benefits...

Warmest regards,
John
--
When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!!

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
| Doug:
|
| I have never found "it runs the women off fast" to be of any real
| importance--granted, it may run the ones off which take themselves far too
| seriously--or, even the ones who have some "axe to grind" and are
naturally
| tending towards a male/female conflict--but think about--those are best
| avoided anyway!
|
| Better to find this out right up front...
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
| --
| When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!!
|
| "Doug McLaren" wrote in message
| ...
|| In article ,
|| John Smith wrote:
||
||| Where have you been all my life? If you are taken, do you have
||| sister which are single? grin
||
|| Translation: if you're a female, and in ham radio or some other male
|| dominated hobby, better hide your sex, or people will do this sort of
|| thing. I realize that you're kidding, John, but even so, it runs the
|| women off, fast.
||
|| Answer to the question ...
||
|| You might be able to work the ISS with your setup right now. Except
|| that it's always in packet mode nowadays ...
||
|| But beyond that, you ought to be able to work many of the low Earth
|| orbit satellites just by adding a directional antenna. The Arrow
|| Antenna 2m/70cm antenna is very popular for that, or there's a number
|| of sites out there with instructions for making similar antennas.
|| Google is your friend.
||
|| --
|| Doug McLaren,
|| $__
|| (o0)
|| /||\ when Cthulhu calls...he calls collect
|
|


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Old May 11th 05, 06:10 PM
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John Smith wrote:

... and I should have pointed out, "There is nothing wrong with women like
that..." Just stops everyone from confusion and being able to claim, "I
didn't know he/she was like that!"

However, I am involved directly in technical classes at a jr. college... the
ratio of women to men is VERY LOW at higher classes--this is fact--not
fiction--and my comment was more to that area... pointing out that
technical minded men just might miss female colleges...

... indeed, I think a sexist comment would be one discouraging women from
certain areas of society--not encouraging them--and pointing out they are
desirable to have there... or, a condensending/shallow/protectionist
comment for womens' benefits...

Warmest regards,
John


"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and
remove all doubt."

Abraham Lincoln

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Old May 11th 05, 06:23 PM
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Well, that is a gentle way of calling me a fool, much appreciated you have
the grace...

Still, as "beauty is in the beholders eye." So are fools...

But hey, you are entitled to your opinion... I have mine...

Regards,
John
--
Sit down the six-pack!!! STEP AWAY!!! ...and go do something...

"Jim Kelley" wrote in message
...
|
|
| John Smith wrote:
|
| ... and I should have pointed out, "There is nothing wrong with women
like
| that..." Just stops everyone from confusion and being able to claim, "I
| didn't know he/she was like that!"
|
| However, I am involved directly in technical classes at a jr. college...
the
| ratio of women to men is VERY LOW at higher classes--this is fact--not
| fiction--and my comment was more to that area... pointing out that
| technical minded men just might miss female colleges...
|
| ... indeed, I think a sexist comment would be one discouraging women
from
| certain areas of society--not encouraging them--and pointing out they
are
| desirable to have there... or, a condensending/shallow/protectionist
| comment for womens' benefits...
|
| Warmest regards,
| John
|
| "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and
| remove all doubt."
|
| Abraham Lincoln
|




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